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On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Sean Dague <sean at dague.net> wrote:

> On 10/23/2013 10:40 AM, John Griffith wrote:
>
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>>
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>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Sean Dague <sean at dague.net
>> <mailto:sean at dague.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Dave Kranz has been building a system so that we can ensure that
>>     during a Tempest run services don't spew ERRORs in the logs.
>>     Eventually, we're going to gate on this, because there is nothing
>>     that Tempest does to the system that should cause any OpenStack
>>     service to ERROR or stack trace (Errors should actually be
>>     exceptional events that something is wrong with the system, not
>>     regular events).
>>
>>
>> So I have to disagree with the approach being taken here.  Particularly
>> in the case of Cinder and the negative tests that are in place.  When I
>> read this last week I assumed you actually meant that "Exceptions" were
>> exceptional and nothing in Tempest should cause Exceptions.  It turns
>> out you apparently did mean Errors.  I completely disagree here, Errors
>> happen, some are recovered, some are expected by the tests etc.  Having
>> a policy and especially a gate that says NO ERROR MESSAGE in logs makes
>> absolutely no sense to me.
>>
>> Something like NO TRACE/EXCEPTION MESSAGE in logs I can agree with, but
>> this makes no sense to me.  By the way, here's a perfect example:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/**cinder/+bug/1243485<https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1243485>
>>
>> As long as we have Tempest tests that do things like "show non-existent
>> volume" you're going to get an Error message and I think that you should
>> quite frankly.
>>
>
> Ok, I guess that's where we probably need to clarify what "Not Found" is.
> Because "Not Found" to me seems like it should be a request at INFO level,
> not ERROR.
>


> ERROR from an admin perspective should really be something that would
> suitable for sending an alert to an administrator for them to come and fix
> the cloud.
>
> TRACE is actually a lower level of severity in our log systems than ERROR
> is.


Sorry, by Trace I was referring to unhandled stack/exception trace messages
in the logs.

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