[openstack-dev] Scheduler meeting and Icehouse Summit

Gary Kotton gkotton at vmware.com
Wed Oct 16 06:43:22 UTC 2013


Hi,
I agree with Phil. This has been on the agenda of the scheduling meetings
for over a month now.
Thanks
Gary

On 10/15/13 2:40 PM, "Day, Phil" <philip.day at hp.com> wrote:

>Hi Alex,
>
>My understanding is that the 17th is the deadline and that Russell needs
>to be planning the sessions from that point onwards.  If we delay in
>giving him our suggestions until the 22nd I think it would be too late.
> We've had weeks if not months now of discussing possible scheduler
>sessions, I really don't see why we can't deliver a recommendation on how
>best to fit into the 3 committed slots on or before the 17th.
>
>Phil
>
>On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Alex Glikson <GLIKSON at il.ibm.com> wrote:
>> IMO, the three themes make sense, but I would suggest waiting until
>> the submission deadline and discuss at the following IRC meeting on the
>>22nd.
>> Maybe there will be more relevant proposals to consider.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alex
>>
>> P.S. I plan to submit a proposal regarding scheduling policies, and
>> maybe one more related to theme #1 below
>>
>>
>>
>> From:        "Day, Phil" <philip.day at hp.com>
>> To:        OpenStack Development Mailing List
>> <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>,
>> Date:        14/10/2013 06:50 PM
>> Subject:        Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler meeting and Icehouse
>>Summit
>> ________________________________
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>>
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> In the weekly scheduler meeting we've been trying to pull together a
>> consolidated list of Summit sessions so that we can find logical
>> groupings and make a more structured set of sessions for the limited
>> time available at the summit.
>>
>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IceHouse-Nova-Scheduler-Sessions
>>
>> With the deadline for sessions being this Thursday 17th, tomorrows IRC
>> meeting is the last chance to decide which sessions we want to combine /
>> prioritize.    Russell has indicated that a starting assumption of three
>> scheduler sessions is reasonable, with any extras depending on what
>> else is submitted.
>>
>> I've matched the list on the Either pad to submitted sessions below,
>> and added links to any other proposed sessions that look like they are
>>related.
>>
>>
>> 1) Instance Group Model and API
>>                        Session Proposal:
>> http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/190
>>
>> 2) Smart Resource Placement:
>>                   Session Proposal:
>> http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/33
>>                        Possibly related sessions:
>>Resource
>> optimization service for nova
>> (http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/201)
>>
>> 3) Heat and Scheduling and Software, Oh My!:
>>                 Session Proposal:
>> http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/113
>>
>> 4) Generic Scheduler Metrics and Celiometer:
>>                 Session Proposal:
>> http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/218
>>                 Possibly related sessions:  Making Ceilometer and Nova
>> play nice  http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/73
>>
>> 5) Image Properties and Host Capabilities
>>                 Session Proposal:  NONE
>>
>> 6) Scheduler Performance:
>>                 Session Proposal:  NONE
>>                 Possibly related Sessions: Rethinking Scheduler Design
>> http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/34
>>
>> 7) Scheduling Across Services:
>>                 Session Proposal: NONE
>>
>> 8) Private Clouds:
>>                 Session Proposal:
>> http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/228
>>
>> 9) Multiple Scheduler Policies:
>>                 Session Proposal: NONE
>>
>>
>> The proposal from last weeks meeting was to use the three slots for:
>>                 - Instance Group Model and API   (1)
>>                 - Smart Resource Placement (2)
>>                 - Performance (6)
>>
>> However, at the moment there doesn't seem to be a session proposed to
>> cover the performance work ?
>>
>> It also seems to me that the Group Model and Smart Placement are
>> pretty closely linked along with (3) (which says it wants to combine 1
>> & 2 into the same topic) , so if we only have three slots available
>>then these look like
>> logical candidates for consolidating into a single session.    That
>>would
>> free up a session to cover the generic metrics (4) and Ceilometer -
>> where a lot of work in Havana stalled because we couldn't get a
>> consensus on the way forward.  The third slot would be kept for
>> performance - which based on the lively debate in the scheduler
>>meetings I'm assuming will still be submitted
>> as a session.    Private Clouds isn't really a scheduler topic, so I
>>suggest
>> it takes its chances as a general session.  Hence my revised proposal
>> for the three slots is:
>>
>>  i) Group Scheduling / Smart Placement / Heat and Scheduling  (1),
>> (2), (3), & (7)
>>                 - How do you schedule something more complex that a
>> single VM ?
>>
>> ii) Generalized scheduling metrics / celiometer integration (4)
>>                 - How do we extend the set of resources a scheduler
>> can use to make its decisions ?
>>                 - How do we make this work with  / compatible with
>> Celiometer ?
>>
>> iii) Scheduler Performance (6)
>>
>> In that way we will at least give airtime to all of the topics.     If
>>a 4th
>> scheduler slot becomes available then we could break up the first
>> session into two parts.
>>
>> Thoughts welcome here or in tomorrows IRC meeting.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Phil
>>
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