[openstack-dev] [qa] Policy on spelling and grammar
Tim Bell
Tim.Bell at cern.ch
Mon Nov 11 19:28:46 UTC 2013
As a speaker of the Queen's English, I find flavor to be incorrect. Does that mean I can -1 any patch that does not use flavour ?
At CERN, we are working with 130 countries in a single community. The value of the contribution of non-english speakers far exceeds the occasional misunderstandings.
Giving grammar/spellings -1 excludes major sections of the community from contribution.
As our aim is meritocracy (in python, computer architecture and design rather than spelling), I'd propose
- If someone identifies a need for clarification/correction as part of a review, they also submit the replacement text rather than just -1.
- The submitter incorporates that change into a patch
Tim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Griffith [mailto:john.griffith at solidfire.com]
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> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Policy on spelling and grammar
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> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:49 AM, James Slagle <james.slagle at gmail.com> wrote:
> > -1 from me as well.
> >
> > When I first started with OpenStack, I probably would have agreed with
> > letting small grammar mistakes and typos slide by.
> >
> > However, I now feel that getting commit messages right is more
> > important. Also keep in mind that with small grammar mistakes, the
> > intent may be obvious to a native English speaker, but to another
> > non-native English speaker it may not be. And just a few small
> > grammar mistakes/misspellings/typos can add up until the meaning may
> > be harder to figure out for another non-native English speaker.
> >
> > Also, I can't speak for everyone, but in general I've found most folks
> > open to grammar corrections if English is not their native language
> > b/c they want to learn and fix the mistakes.
> >
> >
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> Guess I'm in the minority with here... some of the nits in commit messages and comments is a bit extreme. Sure there are some cases
> where I think offering a correction is great/appropriate, but for example issuing a -1 on somebody's patch because they mixed up their
> use of 'there' seems a bit lame.
>
> Seems to me there's a middle ground here, but honestly if you're value add to the review process is catching grammatical or spelling
> errors in comments and commit messages I'd argue that in most cases it would be nice to have more substantive feedback to go along
> with it. I happen to be a top offender here in terms of grammar or spelling errors in comments so I'm a bit biased on the topic. :)
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