[openstack-dev] Program Description for OpenStack QA

Thierry Carrez thierry at openstack.org
Mon Jul 15 13:23:42 UTC 2013

Sean Dague wrote:
> On 07/15/2013 07:46 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
>> Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
>>>> The OpenStack QA program starts with 2 git trees
>>>>   * tempest - https://github.com/openstack/tempest
>>>>   * grenade - https://github.com/openstack-dev/grenade
>>> I haven't read the full discussion on this so apologies if I am
>>> missing something, but why devstack is no part of this?
>> Devstack falls somewhere between QA and Infrastructure... We raised
>> briefly the subject of where we should attach it during the initial
>> discussion on programs, then punted for later discussion.
>> It falls in the same bucket as other "central" repositories like
>> openstack/requirements -- everyone ends up contributing to those so it's
>> difficult to attach them to any given program/team.
> Right, devstack's primary mission is still providing development
> environments to developers. We reuse it in QA and Infra, but it's kind
> of a different beast.
> So for now it just remains what it is, which I think is fine. I think
> it's good to be pragmatic about Programs and only fit the git trees that
> naturally fit into them, and just be really concerned that every git
> tree we carry has to be owned by a program.
> Sometimes we have useful code just because people are useful and doing
> good things for the community. I'd much rather let that bloom as is then
> spend a lot of time ensuring it fits into an existing program.

I'd generally agree with that. The only issue with devstack is that
under the old project-based taxonomy it was classified as a "gating"
project and therefore granted ATC status to its contributors. Under the
new program-based taxonomy, if it's not adopted by a program then it
would fall off the "official" ATC scope.

That said, if nobody specific wants to own it it could also be
co-adopted by multiple programs (I'd say QA and Infra). That would close
that taxonomy change loophole as far as I am concerned...

Thierry Carrez (ttx)

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