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I agree with both John and Anne on this issue.  I think it is very
unfortunate that this issue was only brought up so late in the process
as to rush what is likely a sub-optimal solution through.  I would
prefer that the TC endure the "pain" of two extra memebers and use
that "pain" to push forward a real solution to the problem over the
next 6 months.

In an ideal world, it would be nice to trust that everyone will do the
"right" thing and that the "best" people possible will be elected to
the TC that will adequately represent each project.  The reality is
that with the proposed option, only members of the largest project(s)
will get elected, and the view of the TC will continue to narrow
around the needs of one world view.  What the TC needs more, is a
diverse set of opinions and views, and I believe the option proposed
by Anne would provide a much better framework to support that.

I implore that the TC vote to not change the TC membership and take
the charge to fix it for real in the next term.

--
Chuck

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:02 AM, John Dickinson <me at not.mn> wrote:
> I agree, but my other email was log enough anyway...
>
> --John
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:49 AM, Anne Gentle <anne at openstack.org> wrote:
>
> I thought of one more concern I have here.
>
> The role of PTL is backbreaking work for large projects. Wouldn't someone
> (or their manager) be motivated to focus on TC campaigns and influence
> rather than day-to-day PTL work with this narrowing scope of seats?
>
> Seems we'd demotivate the behavior we need, day-to-day hands-on work by
> technical leaders. We still need consensus-builders as well, but the point
> of the TC is not to separate those roles (technical decisions and get-along
> attitudes)
>
> Anyone else see it that way?
>
> Anne
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Anne Gentle wrote:
>> > I agree with Mark that there are no PTL seats. Is it possible that a PTL
>> > is going to "lose" their TC seat if they lose the PTL election at the
>> > six-month mark and the seats are for a year?
>> > (Thinking of the defined "renew half the committee every 6 months (and
>> > be elected for a one-year term)" from a previous thread.)
>>
>> With the new system, the fact that you are or not a PTL doesn't affect
>> your TC term length. A person that is elected for one year is elected
>> for one year, even if they also are a PTL (elected for 6 months) and
>> even if they lose that PTL position after 6 months.
>>
>> --
>> Thierry
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