[openstack-dev] [governance] Becoming a Program, before applying for incubation

Sylvain Bauza sylvain.bauza at bull.net
Wed Dec 18 09:43:18 UTC 2013


Le 17/12/2013 14:59, Thierry Carrez a écrit :
> Mark McLoughlin wrote:
>> On Tue, 2013-12-17 at 13:44 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote:
>>> Mark McLoughlin wrote:
>>>> How about if we had an "emerging projects" page where the TC feedback on
>>>> each project would be listed?
>>>>
>>>> That would give visibility to our feedback, without making it a yes/no
>>>> blessing. Ok, whether to list any feedback about the project on the page
>>>> is a yes/no decision, but at least it allows us to fully express why we
>>>> find the project promising, what people need to help with in order for
>>>> it to be incubated, etc.
>>>>
>>>> With a formal yes/no status, I think we'd struggle with projects which
>>>> we're not quite ready to even bless with an "emerging" status but we
>>>> still want to encourage them - this allows us to bless a project as
>>>> "emerging" but be explicit about our level of support for it.
>>> I agree that being able to express our opinion on a project in shades of
>>> grey is valuable... The main drawback of using a non-boolean status for
>>> that is that you can't grant any benefit to it. So we'd not be able to
>>> say "emerging projects get design summit space".
>>>
>>> They can still collaborate in unconference space or around empty tables,
>>> but then we are back to the problem we are trying to solve: increase
>>> visibility of promising projects pre-incubation.
>> Have an emerging projects track and leave it up to the track coordinator
>> to decide prioritize the most interesting sessions and the most advanced
>> projects (according to the TC's feedback)  ?
> I guess that /could/ work. I don't expect we'll have space for more than
> one session per project, but that may be enough for self-organization if
> we nail the "collaboration spaces" correctly.
>
> I'm fine with giving that page a try (we can always revisit if it's not
> working any better...).
>

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but Stackforge is already the place for 
promising projects ? If so, why creating a wikipage for listing them ?

FWIW, having at least a TC formal review (maybe less strict than for 
"incubated") should still be needed for making sure we don't create silos.
I could rather suggest that a TC member would be kinda sponsorising an 
"Emerging" (or whatever it's called) project. That would prevent any 
misunderstanding or project clones, emerging projects would get 
experienced feedback from how to get incubated (and the steps to) and 
that would also make sure that all emerging projects are alive (meaning 
regular code delivery), or they would loose their status.

By saying sponsoring, I'm not talking about TC members joining meetings 
or reviewing, that would be only brief knowledge of what the project is, 
and what are their current status (which will be project's 
responsability to keep updated the TC sponsor)

Thanks,
-Sylvain




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