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I think we all agree on that defining a limited set of use cases (but lets not spend hours and hours on focusing on "just use cases") would be helpful. The technology of choice whether that be MPLS_BGP, or GRE or IPSec  is not the focus and not something Quantum would need to be concerned for "general cases".  

As for the term VPNaaS, sure im not religious and I will let others churn out more suitable terminology, though VPNaaS sounds catchy ;-)

Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: Nachi Ueno [mailto:nachi at ntti3.com] 
Sent: April-04-13 8:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Quantum] Summit Sessions - VPNaaS discussion - Agenda for tomorrow's meeting.

Hi folks

> Vasudevan
Thanks. Could you merge your agenda and existing agenda?
Your agenda looks mix of usecase and IPsec specific agenda.

> Alan, Dan
I agree.  VPNaaS is dangerous word which is something kind of "Cloud".
Let's focus on  share the detailed use cases.


2013/4/4 Dan Wendlandt <dan at nicira.com>:
> I really want to caution people about throwing around the term VPNaaS 
> as if it is a monolithic thing.  I've spoken to people on this "single 
> topic", only to learn that they are talking about one of several very 
> different
> things: SSLVPN for individual hosts to connect to a Quantum network, 
> site-to-site IPsec VPNs, MPLS VPNs between different quantum networks 
> running sites, etc.
>
> In my past experience of using OpenStack summits to work through 
> complex topics with many interested parties (L3 APIs, LBaaS, etc.) 
> often I've found that the most important first step is to at least 
> temporarily stop using the catch-all phrase like VPNaaS and instead to 
> use detailed use cases of what we're trying to accomplish to agree on 
> a set of more concrete teams for discussion.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Alan Kavanagh 
> <alan.kavanagh at ericsson.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> A suggestion.
>>
>> I believe one important element to touch on so that the discussions 
>> go in the right direction and we get maximum output is where is the 
>> boundary of where we want to see Quantum for VPNaaS. In otherwords is 
>> it for connecting the tenant network to an external network such as 
>> Enterprise Network or we also want to use this for other scenarios of which some are listed.
>>
>> From this we can touch on what we want to have exposed in the VPNaaS 
>> Core API etc and so on so forth.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vasudevan, Swaminathan (PNB Roseville) 
>> [mailto:swaminathan.vasudevan at hp.com]
>> Sent: April-04-13 1:18 PM
>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Quantum] Summit Sessions - VPNaaS 
>> discussion
>> - Agenda for tomorrow's meeting.
>>
>> Hi ,
>> +1,
>> Works for me.
>> Let us have an agenda.
>> Here is my Agenda for the discussion
>>
>> I would prefer to go over the Site-to-Site VPN as a starting point.
>> 1. VPNaaS service for Site-to-Site.
>>   i) IKE Proposals. ( IKEv1/IKEv2)
>>   ii) IPsec Policy
>>   iii) Use of Certificates versus PSK
>>   iv) Multiple Branch connections
>>   v) Static versus Dynamic routing ( Using BGP)
>>   vi) HA ( High availability).
>>   vii) Data Model
>>   viii) REST API.
>>   ix) Device Registration
>>   x) Agent
>>   xi) Drivers ( Supporting Hardwar router, Virtual routers )
>>   xii) Generate hardware router configuration ( Similar to Amazon)
>>   xiii) Virtual Router image installation.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Swaminathan Vasudevan
>> Systems Software Engineer (TC)
>>
>>
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>> fax: 916.785.1815
>> email: swaminathan.vasudevan at hp.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nachi Ueno [mailto:nachi at ntti3.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:27 AM
>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Quantum] Summit Sessions
>>
>> Hi Sachin
>>
>> OK I would like to change it to 12PM
>> (Is that OK > for the other guys? )
>>
>> Time updated
>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/HavanaVPNaaS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/4/4 Sachin Thakkar <sthakkar at vmware.com>:
>> > I'd like to join as well. Can we do 12PM PST instead?
>> >
>> > I think the initial kickoff will need to distinguish the various 
>> > facets of VPN that we want to cover. Reading through the proposals 
>> > it appears that many of the use cases are across the board. I'd 
>> > recommend we consolidate where appropriate and prioritize accordingly.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Sachin
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: "Alan Kavanagh" <alan.kavanagh at ericsson.com>
>> > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List"
>> > <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 8:17:10 PM
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Quantum] Summit Sessions
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> > Would like to join too, 1PM PST sounds good. I guess Mark is also 
>> > hoping that we can structure the several contributions in a good 
>> > flow and where possible combine them etc, guess we can cover that also.
>> >
>> > BR
>> > Alan
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Nachi Ueno [mailto:nachi at ntti3.com]
>> > Sent: April-03-13 8:59 PM
>> > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
>> > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Quantum] Summit Sessions
>> >
>> > Hi  Vasudevan
>> >
>> > +1
>> > I would like to join
>> > How about 4/5  1pm (PST)  on the IRC?
>> >
>> > I created etherpad page for this discussion 
>> > https://etherpad.openstack.org/HavanaVPNaaS
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Nachi
>> >
>> > 2013/4/3 Vasudevan, Swaminathan (PNB Roseville)
>> > <swaminathan.vasudevan at hp.com>:
>> >> Hi Mark McClain,
>> >>
>> >> I would like to have a discussion on the VPNaaS for the quantum 
>> >> prior to the Havana summit.
>> >>
>> >> Is there a discussion group for the VPNaaS, if so could you please 
>> >> forward me the details.
>> >>
>> >> If not can we start a discussion group to discuss the VPNaaS 
>> >> blueprint before the summit.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Swaminathan Vasudevan
>> >> Systems Software Engineer (TC)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> HP ProCurve
>> >> Hewlett-Packard
>> >> 8000 Foothills Blvd
>> >> M/S 5541
>> >> Roseville, CA - 95747
>> >> tel: 916.785.0937
>> >> fax: 916.785.1815
>> >> email: swaminathan.vasudevan at hp.com
>> >>
>> >> From: Mark McClain [mailto:mark.mcclain at dreamhost.com]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:37 AM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
>> >> Subject: [openstack-dev] [Quantum] Summit Sessions
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> All-
>> >>
>> >> I know we're busy working on the final push to get the docs ready 
>> >> for the Grizzly release.  I wanted to remind the team that summit 
>> >> session proposals are due by the end of March.
>> >>
>> >> You can submit your proposals here:
>> >>
>> >> http://summit.openstack.org.
>> >>
>> >> A couple of reminders:
>> >> * It is not about who proposed first.  If we have multiple 
>> >> proposals for the same topic, the sessions most likely will be merged.
>> >> * We want to have a good balance of community projects vs shiny 
>> >> features.
>> >> Community projects are projects that benefit the community as a 
>> >> whole (i.e.
>> >> metadata service, db migration, L3 multi host).
>> >> * Design sessions are a good way to discuss, build consensus and 
>> >> recruit others to help with implementation.
>> >> * If you have a mini-topic make a note in your proposal.  
>> >> Mini-topics are something we'll spend around 15mins discussing.
>> >>
>> >> Here are a few of the topics that would be good candidates to 
>> >> discuss in
>> >> Portland:
>> >>
>> >> * How can we make Quantum Simpler ((tm)) For deployers? For developers?
>> >>             * How do we make it easier to deploy Quantum in common 
>> >> cases?
>> >> * Improved Unit Testing
>> >> * Improved Tempest Testing
>> >> * Improved Quantum API Testing in Nova
>> >> * Improving Quantum Documentation
>> >> * L3
>> >>             * IPv6 Support
>> >>             * Pluggable IPAM
>> >>             * ACLs
>> >>             * richer NAT API (tcp/udp port forwarding)
>> >> * Modular L2 and L3
>> >> * Database Improvements (how to handle trunk chasers, model
>> >> extensions)
>> >> * Full Multi-Host L3
>> >> * Device management and scheduling for services
>> >> * DNS and Quantum
>> >> * Bare-metal
>> >> * Physical Switch Interactions
>> >> * SR-IOV
>> >> * VPNaaS (important to separate use cases: site-to-site, sslvpn,
>> >> mpls-vpn)
>> >> * LBaaS (how do we extend upon the foundation created in Grizzly)
>> >>
>> >> Have something that's not in the list?  This list does not cover 
>> >> everything, so feel free to propose it on the summit website.
>> >>
>> >> I hope you're excited as I am for the Grizzly release, and I'm 
>> >> looking forward discussing Havana Portland,
>> >>
>> >> mark
>> >>
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