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Youcef,

Thank you for the block diagram. I had a couple of questions:

>From your drawing, can I infer that the scheduler is to be provided as a
python module and class and not a proper service interface? The decoupling
through queue seems to be one of synchronous / asynchronous task scaling
only. Why not a scheduler queue as well to allow the vendor line to be
completely handled through AMQP messaging? The LBaaS vendor could create as
simple or as complex a management system to interact with LBaaS through
messaging. What are your thought about forcing the schedule coupling?

Is it safe to say that the other issues of thorny coupling you are worried
about can be isolated to discrete functional areas where proper interface
definitions and RPC could avoid them?

I agree with you BTW.  I've been writing some 'glue' for a project and
finding other areas in Quantum itself which are too tightly tied to the
data model of VM interfaces and it created a few thorns. It was a time
consuming exercise to make Quantum functionality live behind an interface
which would work simply through other vendor's interfaces as well.

This is our trade-off of time vs complexity I know...

John



On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Youcef Laribi
<Youcef.Laribi at eu.citrix.com>wrote:

> The discussion on scheduling has prompted me to think that there are
> several inter-linked components that we have so far not discussed in
> detail, and I’m worried that diving into implementation without
> understanding how the different components will eventually fit together
> will create us problems later on. For example, we haven’t so far discussed
> the APIs for “service type” management (and this is creating confusion in
> other thread discussions), or for device management, as these have impact
> on the LBaaS piece. We need to understand the big picture of the components
> that will be in place, their dependencies, and the vendor-specific pieces
> and where they would be located.****
>
> ** **
>
> To start this discussion I have drawn an initial picture with the
> components that I think would need to be in place. So let’s start
> discussing the need for each component, its functions, where does it live
> (is it a Quantum plugin? is it something else?), what are the dependencies
> on the other components (in terms of interactions or DB sharing). The
> component diagram is here:
> http://wiki.openstack.org/Quantum/LBaaS?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Quantum+Services+components.png
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> I want us to discuss this in a little bit more detail, before we get too
> much into implementation and realize the thorny issues later on. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks****
>
> Youcef****
>
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