From gr at ham.ie  Tue Jan 30 18:53:40 2018
From: gr at ham.ie (Graham Hayes)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 18:53:40 +0000
Subject: [legal-discuss] [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-05
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.2.21.1801301833570.24518@cdent-m01.vmware.com>
References: <alpine.OSX.2.21.1801301833570.24518@cdent-m01.vmware.com>
Message-ID: <696c009f-005e-8aa7-7363-696fccac49fd@ham.ie>

On 30/01/18 18:34, Chris Dent wrote:
<snip/>
> 
> ## Today's Board Meeting
> 
> I attended [today's Board
> Meeting](https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/30Jan2018BoardMeeting)
> 
> but it seems that according to the [transparency
> policy](http://www.openstack.org/legal/transparency-policy/) I can't
> comment:
> 
>>  No commenting on Board meeting contents and decisions until
>>  Executive Director publishes a meeting summary
> 
> That doesn't sound like transparency to me, but I assume there must be
> reasons.

I was under the assumption that this only applied to board members, but
I am open to correction.

Can someone on legal-discuss clarify?

> 
> 
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From mordred at inaugust.com  Tue Jan 30 19:05:59 2018
From: mordred at inaugust.com (Monty Taylor)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 13:05:59 -0600
Subject: [legal-discuss] [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-05
In-Reply-To: <696c009f-005e-8aa7-7363-696fccac49fd@ham.ie>
References: <alpine.OSX.2.21.1801301833570.24518@cdent-m01.vmware.com>
 <696c009f-005e-8aa7-7363-696fccac49fd@ham.ie>
Message-ID: <bbe9dcfc-efdb-462b-fe1a-7d7978c84a97@inaugust.com>

On 01/30/2018 12:53 PM, Graham Hayes wrote:
> On 30/01/18 18:34, Chris Dent wrote:
> <snip/>
>>
>> ## Today's Board Meeting
>>
>> I attended [today's Board
>> Meeting](https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/30Jan2018BoardMeeting)
>>
>> but it seems that according to the [transparency
>> policy](http://www.openstack.org/legal/transparency-policy/) I can't
>> comment:
>>
>>>   No commenting on Board meeting contents and decisions until
>>>   Executive Director publishes a meeting summary
>>
>> That doesn't sound like transparency to me, but I assume there must be
>> reasons.
> 
> I was under the assumption that this only applied to board members, but
> I am open to correction.
> 
> Can someone on legal-discuss clarify?

That is correct. As officers information published from Board members 
could be construed as "official" communication. The approach we've taken 
on this topic is that Board members refrain from publishing their 
thoughts/feedback/take/opinion/summary of a meeting until after Jonathan 
has published an 'official' summary of the meeting, at which point, 
since there is an official document we're free to comment as we desire.

There is nothing preventing anyone who is not a board member from 
publishing a summary or thoughts or live-tweeting the whole thing.

markmc has historically written excellent summaries and has posted them 
as soon as Jonathan's have gone out.

Monty


From mordred at inaugust.com  Tue Jan 30 19:06:51 2018
From: mordred at inaugust.com (Monty Taylor)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 13:06:51 -0600
Subject: [legal-discuss] [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-05
In-Reply-To: <bbe9dcfc-efdb-462b-fe1a-7d7978c84a97@inaugust.com>
References: <alpine.OSX.2.21.1801301833570.24518@cdent-m01.vmware.com>
 <696c009f-005e-8aa7-7363-696fccac49fd@ham.ie>
 <bbe9dcfc-efdb-462b-fe1a-7d7978c84a97@inaugust.com>
Message-ID: <73d762de-b7b0-df39-4bba-2be025157d19@inaugust.com>

On 01/30/2018 01:05 PM, Monty Taylor wrote:
> On 01/30/2018 12:53 PM, Graham Hayes wrote:
>> On 30/01/18 18:34, Chris Dent wrote:
>> <snip/>
>>>
>>> ## Today's Board Meeting
>>>
>>> I attended [today's Board
>>> Meeting](https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/30Jan2018BoardMeeting) 
>>>
>>>
>>> but it seems that according to the [transparency
>>> policy](http://www.openstack.org/legal/transparency-policy/) I can't
>>> comment:
>>>
>>>>   No commenting on Board meeting contents and decisions until
>>>>   Executive Director publishes a meeting summary
>>>
>>> That doesn't sound like transparency to me, but I assume there must be
>>> reasons.
>>
>> I was under the assumption that this only applied to board members, but
>> I am open to correction.
>>
>> Can someone on legal-discuss clarify?
> 
> That is correct. As officers information published from Board members 
> could be construed as "official" communication. The approach we've taken 
> on this topic is that Board members refrain from publishing their 
> thoughts/feedback/take/opinion/summary of a meeting until after Jonathan 
> has published an 'official' summary of the meeting, at which point, 
> since there is an official document we're free to comment as we desire.
> 
> There is nothing preventing anyone who is not a board member from 
> publishing a summary or thoughts or live-tweeting the whole thing.
> 
> markmc has historically written excellent summaries and has posted them 
> as soon as Jonathan's have gone out.

Gah. Didn't reply originally to openstack-dev.

Monty