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On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 08:17:19AM +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> Full thread here:
> 
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-October/thread.html#16980

cc'ing Thomas Goirand.

I have a feeling something is being lost in the translation from
Debian to OpenStack, but I'm not sure. I've read the full thread but
do not understand the issue.

If Debian were to insist on a complete list of all copyright holders
for each of its packages, it would have to shut itself down. If there
is a Debian packaging requirement that requires a package maintainer
to collect all identified copyright holders into a single file, that
is the package maintainer's responsibility.

One of the suggestions in the thread made by someone seemed to be to
make some automated mapping between an author and an affiliated
organization, but this will not necessarily yield a correct
identification of the copyright holder (that is true, for example, in
a number of cases involving Red Hat employees).

 - Richard






> 
> Mark.
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: Thomas Goirand <zigo at debian.org>
> > Reply-to: OpenStack Development Mailing List
> > <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
> > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
> > <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
> > Subject: [openstack-dev] Call for a clear COPYRIGHT-HOLDERS file in
> > all OpenStack projects (and [trove]
> > python-troveclient_0.1.4-1_amd64.changes REJECTED)
> > Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 14:01:50 +0800
> > 
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > TroveClient just got rejected by Debian FTP masters. Reply from Luke
> > Faraone is below.
> > 
> > In general, I would strongly advise that a clean COPYRIGHT-HOLDER file
> > is created with the copyright holders in them. Why? Because it is hard
> > to distinguish between authors and copyright holders, which are very
> > distinct things. Listing the authors in debian/copyright doesn't seem to
> > satisfy the FTP masters as well... :(
> > 
> > FYI, my reply was that I knew some of the authors were working for
> > Rackspace, because I met them in Portland, and that I knew Rackspace was
> > one of the copyright holders. Though that's of course not enough for the
> > Debian FTP masters.
> > 
> > Your thoughts?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Thomas Goirand (zigo)
> > 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [Openstack-devel] python-troveclient_0.1.4-1_amd64.changes REJECTED
> > Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 04:00:19 +0000
> > From: Luke Faraone <ftpmaster at ftp-master.debian.org>
> > To: PKG OpenStack <openstack-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org>, Thomas
> > Goirand <zigo at debian.org>
> > 
> > 
> > Dear maintainer,
> > 
> > debian/copyright is **not** an AUTHORS list. This package appears to be
> > Copyright (c) 2013 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P., and some
> > other
> > companies, not copyrighted each individual employee at HP who worked on it.
> > 
> > Your automated debian/copyright generation is most probably suboptimal for
> > most packages, and is most certainly not a substitute for manual review.
> > One
> > missed copyright holder:
> > 
> > python-troveclient-0.1.4\troveclient\base.py:
> >     Copyright 2010 Jacob Kaplan-Moss
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Luke Faraone
> > FTP Team
> > 
> > 
> > ===
> > 
> > Please feel free to respond to this email if you don't understand why
> > your files were rejected, or if you upload new files which address our
> > concerns.
> > 
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