[legal-discuss] Contribution snag.

Alice King alice at alicelkingpc.com
Mon Nov 11 16:51:39 UTC 2013


Thank you Steve.  I will keep that in mind as a fall back.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Dake [mailto:sdake at redhat.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 9:36 AM
To: Alice King; 'Jeremy Stanley'; 'Fox, Kevin M'
Cc: legal-discuss at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [legal-discuss] Contribution snag.

On 11/11/2013 06:16 AM, Alice King wrote:
> Hi Jeremy and everyone.  I am working on this question for the Foundation.
> I have talked with Kevin and am doing some legal leg work.  I will get 
> in touch with Stefano.
>
> Welcome back from the Summit!
>
> Thank you,
>
> Alice King
Alice,

Thank you for your attention in this matter.  I think Kevin's contributions
would be great to have in Heat from a technical perspective, and am hopeful
a workable legal solution can be found.

I spoke with Kevin at length on IRC about possilities to help his org
contribute the patches as reviews, but his management has already gone the
extra mile to even achieve the current public domain license the code
already has and can't justify further time/resource investment running it
through their legal machine.

One solution we came up with if we hit a roadblock with your research is to
find a Nasa engineer somewhere to facilitate the contribution since they
have signed the corporate CLA and this would work with the pnnnl legal
requirements.  I'm not an attorney however, so we were just brainstorming
ideas, rather then making commitments :)  Something to think about if the
answer is no.

Regards
-steve

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Stanley [mailto:fungi at yuggoth.org]
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 5:32 PM
> To: Fox, Kevin M
> Cc: legal-discuss at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [legal-discuss] Contribution snag.
>
> On 2013-11-06 15:11:44 -0800 (-0800), Fox, Kevin M wrote:
>> I'm trying to contribute something and have run into some snags.
>> See email below. Steve told me that the Foundation is the one needing 
>> to receive this. I tried but got no response so I'm forwarding it to 
>> the legal list.
> Thanks! You picked an unfortunate week to raise questions since most 
> of us are in Hong Kong for our semi-annual conference and design 
> summit, but I suspect you'll get more responses soon. I'll also bring 
> this to Stefano Maffulli's attention since he tends to deal with most 
> of the community interaction on this point.
>
>> I've been looking through the individual contributor level agreement 
>> and in section 7 it mentions contacting the project manager, which I 
>> think is you for heat?
> [...]
>
> The second sentence of the clarifying paragraph at the beginning of 
> the ICLA defines it as, "OpenStack Foundation as Project manager (the 
> 'Project Manager')."
>
>>   * I work for a national lab and while the contribution was  created 
>> by us government funds and owned by the us government, we  are 
>> operated by a corporation, Battelle and I am technically a  Battelle 
>> employee. There really isn't an agreement that seems to  cover this 
>> case other then the individual agreement with a  contribution from 
>> others.
>>
>>   * All parts of the work that aren't derived directly from  existing 
>> heat-templates has been put in the public domain.
> I think the contributors at JHUAPL are in a similar situation and 
> contribute under a USGCLA, but Stefano should be able to clarify how that
works.
> --
> Jeremy Stanley
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