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On 11/11/2013 06:16 AM, Alice King wrote:
> Hi Jeremy and everyone.  I am working on this question for the Foundation.
> I have talked with Kevin and am doing some legal leg work.  I will get in
> touch with Stefano.
>
> Welcome back from the Summit!
>
> Thank you,
>
> Alice King
Alice,

Thank you for your attention in this matter.  I think Kevin's 
contributions would be great to have in Heat from a technical 
perspective, and am hopeful a workable legal solution can be found.

I spoke with Kevin at length on IRC about possilities to help his org 
contribute the patches as reviews, but his management has already gone 
the extra mile to even achieve the current public domain license the 
code already has and can't justify further time/resource investment 
running it through their legal machine.

One solution we came up with if we hit a roadblock with your research is 
to find a Nasa engineer somewhere to facilitate the contribution since 
they have signed the corporate CLA and this would work with the pnnnl 
legal requirements.  I'm not an attorney however, so we were just 
brainstorming ideas, rather then making commitments :)  Something to 
think about if the answer is no.

Regards
-steve

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Stanley [mailto:fungi at yuggoth.org]
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 5:32 PM
> To: Fox, Kevin M
> Cc: legal-discuss at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [legal-discuss] Contribution snag.
>
> On 2013-11-06 15:11:44 -0800 (-0800), Fox, Kevin M wrote:
>> I'm trying to contribute something and have run into some snags.
>> See email below. Steve told me that the Foundation is the one needing
>> to receive this. I tried but got no response so I'm forwarding it to
>> the legal list.
> Thanks! You picked an unfortunate week to raise questions since most of us
> are in Hong Kong for our semi-annual conference and design summit, but I
> suspect you'll get more responses soon. I'll also bring this to Stefano
> Maffulli's attention since he tends to deal with most of the community
> interaction on this point.
>
>> I've been looking through the individual contributor level agreement
>> and in section 7 it mentions contacting the project manager, which I
>> think is you for heat?
> [...]
>
> The second sentence of the clarifying paragraph at the beginning of the ICLA
> defines it as, "OpenStack Foundation as Project manager (the 'Project
> Manager')."
>
>>   * I work for a national lab and while the contribution was  created
>> by us government funds and owned by the us government, we  are
>> operated by a corporation, Battelle and I am technically a  Battelle
>> employee. There really isn't an agreement that seems to  cover this
>> case other then the individual agreement with a  contribution from
>> others.
>>
>>   * All parts of the work that aren't derived directly from  existing
>> heat-templates has been put in the public domain.
> I think the contributors at JHUAPL are in a similar situation and contribute
> under a USGCLA, but Stefano should be able to clarify how that works.
> --
> Jeremy Stanley
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