[legal-discuss] [openstack-tc] Copyrights and License Headers in source files

Mark Washenberger mark.washenberger at markwash.net
Thu May 2 14:43:14 UTC 2013


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 07:30 -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
> > On 05/01/2013 06:12 PM, Monty Taylor wrote:
> > > On 05/01/2013 06:05 PM, John Griffith wrote:
> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Mark Washenberger
> > >> <mark.washenberger at markwash.net <mailto:
> mark.washenberger at markwash.net>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>      Hi folks,
> > >>
> > >>      I was looking into the ASL-2.0, and chanced across the fact that
> in
> > >>      Apache projects, they require that source files only have the
> > >>      License Header, and may not have any copyright notices [1]. It
> > >>      occurred to me that we waste a fair amount of time on copyrights
> in
> > >>      license headers, and it would be nice not to have to do that
> anymore.
> > >
> > > I would like to hear more about the time waste there - where are we
> > > spending time? Can we do something to make that better?
> > >
> > >> I think that only applies to code submitted directly to ASF, but
> > >> regardless you wouldn't get any objections from me regarding your
> > >> proposal.  Some of the legal teams in companies involved in OpenStack
> > >> however may feel differently.
> > >
> > > And some of the developers. I would not like that.
> > >
> > > I would really like to see more folks learn about appropriate addition
> > > of copyright attribution when they work on a file, because I think it's
> > > quite important. Don't think that removing attribution from each file
> > > would prevent people from needing to do it - if we moved to a NOTICE
> > > file system, they'd need to put the notice there.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > This is really an education issue. Lots of first time Open Source folks
> > on the project that don't understand that copyright + license grant in
> > each file is actually quite important to ensure things are actually Open
> > Source in all jurisdictions.
> >
> > It would be good if there was a single wiki page that I could respond to
> > people that -1 adding Copyright statements to explain that it is normal.
> > I've had to explain that too many times
>
> Let's get this on:
>
>   https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LegalIssuesFAQ


This is fantastic. It might also be nice to split out the Headers stuff to
its own page, so that we could have a long-lived url to put directly in
HACKING files.

/me reads the legal-discuss thread he missed. . .
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