[Elections-committee] Draft Timeline

Alan Clark aclark at suse.com
Wed Oct 16 21:38:05 UTC 2013


My point for shifting to 12/4 wasn't for the board, it was for involving the community.  Let's make sure we're giving the community time to digest, discuss and input.
AlanClark

>>> On 10/16/2013 at 03:11 PM, Troy Toman <troy at tomanator.com> wrote: 
> History makes me concerned that we won't make good use of the extra time. 
> This has been a topic for more than a year in the community and at the board 
> level. I won't fight against moving the vote the 12/4 if everyone feels we 
> will use the time wisely. But, my preference is to deal with this issue 
> sooner, show that we can act and move forward.
> 
> Troy
> 
> On Oct 16, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Simon Anderson <simon at dreamhost.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm concerned that if we don't drive to the Board being fully briefed by Nov 
> 4th, and *capable* of voting the resolution, we will miss later deadlines 
> with the holidays. I feel confident that the Board can be briefed in detail 
> on the two options by Nov 4th and at that meeting, and we should not pre-judge 
> if the Board feels ready to decide/resolve at that point. It is always open 
> for the Board to defer a vote if, when the presentation is made Nov 4th, the 
> majority feels that more time is needed for a Board resolution.
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Simon Anderson
>> CEO, DreamHost
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Tim Bell <Tim.Bell at cern.ch> wrote:
>> The board may need subsequent meetings to conclude after the summit. Thus a 
> Dec board would be the deadline and additional meetings in Nov may be 
> required.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from My Mobile
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Alan Clark <aclark at suse.com> 
>> Date: 16/10/2013 20:52 (GMT+01:00) 
>> To: Jonathan Bryce <jonathan at openstack.org>,Todd Moore <tmmoore at us.ibm.com> 
>> Cc: Mark Radcliffe 
> <Mark.Radcliffe at dlapiper.com>,elections-committee at lists.openstack.org 
>> Subject: Re: [Elections-committee] Draft Timeline 
>> 
>> 
>> That feels more 'right'.  Gives us the right amount of time to talk to the 
> community; so it doesn't feel so rushed.
>> 
>> AlanClark
>> 
>> >>> On 10/16/2013 at 12:35 PM, Todd Moore <tmmoore at us.ibm.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> > Well since we have adopted a plan to vote the change at the January
>> > meetings, your suggestion is not unreasonable.  My concern is that we
>> > garner the voters attention before they head off for the Holidays.  I've
>> > never been a fan of announcing things at years end and expecting that
>> > people catch on to it.
>> > 
>> > I suppose that with the note that goes out on Dec. 6th closing the
>> > nominations, we could also indicate that the special vote would be on the
>> > ballot. That would mean a vote on Dec 4th by the board or near that timing.
>> > 
>> > Is that acceptable to all?
>> > 
>> > Todd M. Moore
>> > 
>> > Director, Interoperability and Partnerships
>> > 
>> > 11501 Burnet Rd. MS 9035H014
>> > Austin, TX , 78758.  (512) 286-7643 (tie-line 363)
>> > tmmoore at us.ibm.com
>> > 
>> > 
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>> >   |Jonathan Bryce <jonathan at openstack.org>                                    
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>> >   |Todd Moore/Austin/IBM at IBMUS,                                             
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>> >   |"Alan Clark" <aclark at suse.com>, elections-committee at lists.openstack.org, 
>> > "Mark Radcliffe" <Mark.Radcliffe at dlapiper.com>                           |
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>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > If we are not changing the voting method for the January 2014 elections, I
>> > don't think we would have to have the Board decision finalized before the
>> > 2014 election period opens. We would need to know before we send out the
>> > meeting notice but that could go out in late November or early December.
>> > 
>> > Jonathan
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Oct 16, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Todd Moore <tmmoore at us.ibm.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >       I was hoping Jonathan would chime in on our ability to do such a
>> >       thing.  When we discussed this yesterday, it seemed that to get folks
>> >       attention and get the material out we needed to be on the timeline as
>> >       outlined.  In fact this one pushed out some dates to make this work.
>> > 
>> > 
>> >       Jonathan?
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >       Todd M. Moore
>> > 
>> >       Director, Interoperability and Partnerships
>> > 
>> >       11501 Burnet Rd. MS 9035H014
>> >       Austin, TX , 78758.  (512) 286-7643 (tie-line 363)
>> >       tmmoore at us.ibm.com
>> > 
>> >       <graycol.gif>"Alan Clark" ---10/16/2013 08:57:20 AM---I  seem to be
>> >       having connection problems with the conference calls.  I would like
>> >       to make the recomm
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>> >        From:    "Alan Clark" <aclark at suse.com>                         
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>> >        To:      <elections-committee at lists.openstack.org>, Todd        
>> >                 Moore/Austin/IBM at IBMUS,                                
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>> >        Date:    10/16/2013 08:57 AM                                    
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>> >        Subject: Re: [Elections-committee] Draft Timeline               
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>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >       I  seem to be having connection problems with the conference calls.
>> > 
>> >       I would like to make the recommendation that make a couple of
>> >       modifications to the timeline.  I would like to give the community
>> >       more time to discuss and understand.
>> > 
>> >       My recommendation is that we not hold a board vote at the November 4
>> >       board meeting. Instead let's do a vote in December.
>> >       Add in additional community meetings and let's blog and include
>> >       information in the newsletter in November.
>> > 
>> >       -AlanClark
>> > 
>> >       >>> On 10/16/2013 at 05:35 AM, Todd Moore <tmmoore at us.ibm.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> >       > (See attached file: OpenStack Board Election Committee
>> >       timeline.pdf)
>> >       >
>> >       > Todd M. Moore
>> >       >
>> >       > Director, Interoperability and Partnerships
>> >       >
>> >       > 11501 Burnet Rd. MS 9035H014
>> >       > Austin, TX , 78758.  (512) 286-7643 (tie-line 363)
>> >       > tmmoore at us.ibm.com
>> 
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