[OpenStack-DefCore] Trying to explain Guidelines... here's what I'm thinking [feedback welcome]
Barrett, Carol L
carol.l.barrett at intel.com
Thu Feb 26 20:52:53 UTC 2015
I am concerned about achieving the Brand goal, using a month/year approach rather than a release approach. Is the expectation that a vendor will pull the upstream for the month/year Defcore test and ship a product? If a vendor release cycle is offset by 2 months, what would use to validate their Brand compliance? My thought is by that time new things will be included in a variety of projects that will be included in the Vendor release but not comprehended in the 2 month old Defcore definition.
Carol
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Hirschfeld [mailto:rob at zehicle.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:37 AM
To: defcore-committee at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [OpenStack-DefCore] Trying to explain Guidelines... here's what I'm thinking [feedback welcome]
Chris Lee pinged me about missing a note Component & Platform levels.
We need to include that in the Guidelines.
Good catch Chris!
On 02/26/2015 12:46 PM, Rob Hirschfeld wrote:
> DefCore... does this explain Guidelines?
>
> Last week, the OpenStack DefCore committee rolled up our collective
> sleeves and got to work in a serious way. We had a in-person meeting
> with great turn out with 5 board members, Foundation executives/staff
> and good community engagement.
>
> TL;DR > We think DefCore should dated milestone guidelines instead
> tightly coupled to release events (see graphic
> https://robhirschfeld.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/defcore-timeline1.png).
>
> DefCore has a single goal expressed from two sides: 1) defining the
> "what is OpenStack" brand for Vendors and 2) driving interoperability
> between OpenStack installations. From that perspective, it is not
> about releases, but about testable stable capabilities. Over time,
> these changes should be incremental and, most importantly, trail
> behind new features that are added.
>
> For those reasons, it was becoming confusing for DefCore to focus on
> an "Icehouse" definition when most of the capabilities listed are
> "Havana" ones. We also created significant time pressure to get the
> "Kilo DefCore" out quickly after the release even though there were no
> "Kilo" specific additions covered.
>
> In the face-to-face, we settled on a more incremental approach.
> DefCore would regularly post a set of guidelines for approval by the
> Board. These Guidelines would include the required, deprecated
> (leaving) and advisory (coming) capabilities required for Vendors to
> use the mark (see footnote*). They would also include the relevant
> designated sections. These Guidelines would use the open draft and
> discussion process that we are in the process of outlining for
> approval in Vancouver.
>
> Since DefCore Guidelines are simple time based lists of capabilities,
> the vendors and community can simply reference an approved Guideline
> using the date of approval (for example DefCore 2015.03) and know
> exactly what was included. While each Guideline stands alone, it is
> easy to compare them for incremental changes.
>
> We've been getting positive feedback about this change; however, we
> are still discussing it appreciate your input and questions. It is
> very important for us to make DefCore simple and easy. For that, your
> confused looks and WTF? comments are very helpful.
>
> * footnote: the Foundation manages that process the Vendors. DefCore
> Guidelines are just one part of the brand process.
>
--
Rob
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