Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
Daisy, It sounds good to me, but normal users like me cannot move pages. I got Permission Error. Could you handle all moving of pages? 2015-11-11 15:05 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com>:
Thank you for the explain Ian. I think we could move the wiki pages for language teams to /I18nTeam/team/<language-code>, and then keep /I18nTeam/<language-code> for the translation page of I18nTeam.
How do you think about it, Akihiro?
Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
"Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 00:55:07:
From: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com> To: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com>, Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org> Date: 2015/11/11 00:55 Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
Hello Akihiro,
Actually I suggested a translatable I18nTeam wiki page [1] for Korean during last Tokyo Design Summit. After saying it, I found that there might be a problem in Japanese local team because Japanese language team already used /ja page, as you mentioned and which would make conflict with translation functionality in OpenStack wiki.
Let me first say why Korean translation page for I18nTeam is needed and how Korean translation team wants to use two wiki pages separately:
1) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ko : To provide Korean guys with official I18nTeam introduction wiki page : I think "Local Translation Teams" section is needed because this information is beneficial with the knowledge of the various language team activities.
2) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ko_KR (I found that Daisy moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR. Thank you!) : To introduce Korean translation team with details and our specific translation rules : Providing links for OpenStack I18n official introduction wiki page & its translation
I would like to respect I18nTeam official wiki page, and this information is written in English. In my opinion, translating this page would more clearly advertise OpenStack I18n overall activities to more Korean.
This requirement and need might be different from various local translation teams, I think, and I also would like to respect the ways Japanese team used more than 1 year.
So I would like to suggest not to include "<languages />" tag on [1] . As you know, OpenStack Release Note wiki pages such as [2] contain "<languages />" tag and displays different language translated pages on the top part.
I think this suggestion would satisfy different needs from various language translation teams. However, if https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam page includes "<languages />" tag, then it would not fit to not only Japanese translation team, but also other teams such as French, Polish and so on. For Korean translation team, our official page contains the translated I18nTeam link so it would be okay.
I am not sure, but Daisy might already think so Daisy only moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR, and did not include "<languages />" tag on [1] :)
This is just my suggestion not to conflict with your team and to accomplish our team requirement, and I would like to listen Daisy's opinion and other language teams' opinions.
[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty
With many thanks,
/Ian
In addition, Japanese team maintains the original contents which are differ from the English version of I18nTeam page. Before enabling translation for I18nTeam, I would like to see a solution for language specific content.
2015-11-10 20:45 GMT+09:00 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com>:
I noticed the existing language team page cannot be edited. For example, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ja exists from more than one year ago. After this change, we can no longer edit the original page. What should we do?
In addition, I18nTeam wiki page contains contents which is not appropriate for translation, for example, "Local Translation Teams" section. As a local team coordinator, I don't like to display this section in a translated version.
Thanks, Akihiro
2015-11-10 18:11 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com>:
Hi,
As requested by Korean team, the wiki page of I18nTeam is
If you want to translate this page into your own language,
Akihiro Motoki wrote on 11/10/2015 8:48 PM: translatable now. please go ahead.
Thank you.
Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
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From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN Cc: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com>, Openstack-i18n <openstack- i18n@lists.openstack.org> Date: 2015/11/11 15:05 Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
Daisy,
It sounds good to me, but normal users like me cannot move pages. I got Permission Error. Could you handle all moving of pages?
2015-11-11 15:05 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com>:
Thank you for the explain Ian. I think we could move the wiki pages for language teams to /I18nTeam/team/<language-code>, and then keep /I18nTeam/<language-code> for the translation page of I18nTeam.
How do you think about it, Akihiro?
Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
"Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 00:55:07:
From: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com> To: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com>, Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org> Date: 2015/11/11 00:55 Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
Hello Akihiro,
Actually I suggested a translatable I18nTeam wiki page [1] for Korean during last Tokyo Design Summit. After saying it, I found that there might be a problem in Japanese
local
team because Japanese language team already used /ja page, as you mentioned and which would make conflict with translation functionality in OpenStack wiki.
Let me first say why Korean translation page for I18nTeam is needed and how Korean translation team wants to use two wiki pages separately:
1) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ko : To provide Korean guys with official I18nTeam introduction wiki
I think we need to disable the translation at first. Then we could be able to move them. I'm not able to move, same as you. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 14:40:43: page
: I think "Local Translation Teams" section is needed because this information is beneficial with the knowledge of the various language team activities.
2) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ko_KR (I found that Daisy moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR. Thank you!) : To introduce Korean translation team with details and our specific translation rules : Providing links for OpenStack I18n official introduction wiki page & its translation
I would like to respect I18nTeam official wiki page, and this information is written in English. In my opinion, translating this page would more clearly advertise OpenStack I18n overall activities to more Korean.
This requirement and need might be different from various local translation teams, I think, and I also would like to respect the ways Japanese team used more than 1 year.
So I would like to suggest not to include "<languages />" tag on [1] . As you know, OpenStack Release Note wiki pages such as [2] contain "<languages />" tag and displays different language translated pages on the top part.
I think this suggestion would satisfy different needs from various language translation teams. However, if https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam page includes "<languages />" tag, then it would not fit to not only Japanese translation team, but also other teams such as French, Polish and so on. For Korean translation team, our official page contains the translated I18nTeam link so it would be okay.
I am not sure, but Daisy might already think so Daisy only moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR, and did not include "<languages />" tag on [1] :)
This is just my suggestion not to conflict with your team and to accomplish our team requirement, and I would like to listen Daisy's opinion and other language teams' opinions.
[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty
With many thanks,
/Ian
In addition, Japanese team maintains the original contents which are differ from the English version of I18nTeam page. Before enabling translation for I18nTeam, I would like to see a solution for language specific content.
2015-11-10 20:45 GMT+09:00 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com>:
I noticed the existing language team page cannot be edited. For example, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ja exists from more than one year ago. After this change, we can no longer edit the original page. What should we do?
In addition, I18nTeam wiki page contains contents which is not appropriate for translation, for example, "Local Translation Teams" section. As a local team coordinator, I don't like to display this section in a translated version.
Thanks, Akihiro
2015-11-10 18:11 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com>:
Hi,
As requested by Korean team, the wiki page of I18nTeam is
If you want to translate this page into your own language,
Akihiro Motoki wrote on 11/10/2015 8:48 PM: translatable now. please go ahead.
Thank you.
Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
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Hi, Sorry, it took a while to work out how to disable the translations. That's been done now. Regards, Tom On 11/11/15 18:09, Ying Chun Guo wrote:
I think we need to disable the translation at first. Then we could be able to move them. I'm not able to move, same as you.
Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 14:40:43:
From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN Cc: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com>, Openstack-i18n <openstack- i18n@lists.openstack.org> Date: 2015/11/11 15:05 Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
Daisy,
It sounds good to me, but normal users like me cannot move pages. I got Permission Error. Could you handle all moving of pages?
Thank you for the explain Ian. I think we could move the wiki pages for language teams to /I18nTeam/team/<language-code>, and then keep /I18nTeam/<language-code> for the translation page of I18nTeam.
How do you think about it, Akihiro?
Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
"Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 00:55:07:
From: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com> To: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com>, Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org> Date: 2015/11/11 00:55 Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
Hello Akihiro,
Actually I suggested a translatable I18nTeam wiki page [1] for Korean during last Tokyo Design Summit. After saying it, I found that there might be a problem in Japanese
local
team because Japanese language team already used /ja page, as you mentioned and which would make conflict with translation functionality in OpenStack wiki.
Let me first say why Korean translation page for I18nTeam is needed and how Korean translation team wants to use two wiki pages separately:
1) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ko : To provide Korean guys with official I18nTeam introduction wiki page : I think "Local Translation Teams" section is needed because this information is beneficial with the knowledge of the various language team activities.
2) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ko_KR (I found that Daisy moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR. Thank you!) : To introduce Korean translation team with details and our specific translation rules : Providing links for OpenStack I18n official introduction wiki
its translation
I would like to respect I18nTeam official wiki page, and this information is written in English. In my opinion, translating this page would more clearly advertise OpenStack I18n overall activities to more Korean.
This requirement and need might be different from various local translation teams, I think, and I also would like to respect the ways Japanese team used more
year.
So I would like to suggest not to include "<languages />" tag on [1] . As you know, OpenStack Release Note wiki pages such as [2] contain "<languages />" tag and displays different language translated pages on the top part.
I think this suggestion would satisfy different needs from various language translation teams. However, if https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam page includes "<languages />" tag, then it would not fit to not only Japanese translation team, but also other teams such as French, Polish and so on. For Korean translation team, our official page contains the translated I18nTeam link so it would be okay.
I am not sure, but Daisy might already think so Daisy only moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR, and did not include "<languages />" tag on [1] :)
This is just my suggestion not to conflict with your team and to accomplish our team requirement, and I would like to listen Daisy's opinion and other language teams' opinions.
[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty
With many thanks,
/Ian
Akihiro Motoki wrote on 11/10/2015 8:48 PM:
In addition, Japanese team maintains the original contents which are differ from the English version of I18nTeam page. Before enabling translation for I18nTeam, I would like to see a solution for language specific content.
2015-11-10 20:45 GMT+09:00 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com>:
I noticed the existing language team page cannot be edited. For example, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ja exists from more than one year ago. After this change, we can no longer edit the original page. What should we do?
In addition, I18nTeam wiki page contains contents which is not appropriate for translation, for example, "Local Translation Teams" section. As a local team coordinator, I don't like to display this
2015-11-11 15:05 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com>: page & than 1 section in a
translated version.
Thanks, Akihiro
2015-11-10 18:11 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com>: > Hi, > > As requested by Korean team, the wiki page of I18nTeam is translatable now. > If you want to translate this page into your own language, please go ahead. > Thank you. > > Best regards > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > _______________________________________________ > Openstack-i18n mailing list > Openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n >
Openstack-i18n mailing list Openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n
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From: Tom Fifield <tom@openstack.org> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN, Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com> Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org> Date: 2015/11/12 07:43 Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
Hi,
Sorry, it took a while to work out how to disable the translations. That's been done now.
Regards,
Tom
On 11/11/15 18:09, Ying Chun Guo wrote:
I think we need to disable the translation at first. Then we could be able to move them. I'm not able to move, same as you.
Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 14:40:43:
From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN Cc: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com>, Openstack-i18n <openstack- i18n@lists.openstack.org> Date: 2015/11/11 15:05 Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
Daisy,
It sounds good to me, but normal users like me cannot move pages. I got Permission Error. Could you handle all moving of pages?
2015-11-11 15:05 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com>:
Thank you for the explain Ian. I think we could move the wiki pages for language teams to /I18nTeam/team/<language-code>, and then keep /I18nTeam/<language-code> for the translation page of I18nTeam.
How do you think about it, Akihiro?
Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
"Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 00:55:07:
From: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com> To: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com>, Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org> Date: 2015/11/11 00:55 Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
Hello Akihiro,
Actually I suggested a translatable I18nTeam wiki page [1] for
Korean
during last Tokyo Design Summit. After saying it, I found that there might be a problem in Japanese local team because Japanese language team already used /ja page, as you mentioned and which would make conflict with translation functionality in OpenStack wiki.
Let me first say why Korean translation page for I18nTeam is needed and how Korean translation team wants to use two wiki pages separately:
1) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ko : To provide Korean guys with official I18nTeam introduction wiki page : I think "Local Translation Teams" section is needed because
information is beneficial with the knowledge of the various language team activities.
2) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ko_KR (I found that Daisy moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR. Thank you!) : To introduce Korean translation team with details and our specific translation rules : Providing links for OpenStack I18n official introduction wiki page & its translation
I would like to respect I18nTeam official wiki page, and this information is written in English. In my opinion, translating this page would more clearly advertise OpenStack I18n overall activities to more Korean.
This requirement and need might be different from various local translation teams, I think, and I also would like to respect the ways Japanese team used more than 1 year.
So I would like to suggest not to include "<languages />" tag on [1] . As you know, OpenStack Release Note wiki pages such as [2] contain "<languages />" tag and displays different language
pages on the top part.
I think this suggestion would satisfy different needs from various language translation teams. However, if https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam page includes "<languages />" tag, then it would not fit to not only Japanese translation team, but also other teams such as French, Polish and so on. For Korean translation team, our official page contains the
Thank you Tom. Sorry for the trouble. I will move all the team wiki pages to different links. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) Tom Fifield <tom@openstack.org> wrote on 2015/11/12 07:43:39: this translated translated
I18nTeam link so it would be okay.
I am not sure, but Daisy might already think so Daisy only moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR, and did not include "<languages />" tag on [1] :)
This is just my suggestion not to conflict with your team and to accomplish our team requirement, and I would like to listen Daisy's opinion and other language teams' opinions.
[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty
With many thanks,
/Ian
In addition, Japanese team maintains the original contents which are differ from the English version of I18nTeam page. Before enabling translation for I18nTeam, I would like to see a solution for language specific content.
2015-11-10 20:45 GMT+09:00 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com>: > I noticed the existing language team page cannot be edited. > For example, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ja exists from > more than one year ago. > After this change, we can no longer edit the original page. > What should we do? > > In addition, I18nTeam wiki page contains contents which is not > appropriate for translation, > for example, "Local Translation Teams" section. > As a local team coordinator, I don't like to display this
> translated version. > > Thanks, > Akihiro > > 2015-11-10 18:11 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com>: >> Hi, >> >> As requested by Korean team, the wiki page of I18nTeam is
>> If you want to translate this page into your own language,
Akihiro Motoki wrote on 11/10/2015 8:48 PM: section in a translatable now. please go ahead.
>> Thank you. >> >> Best regards >> Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openstack-i18n mailing list >> Openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n >> _______________________________________________ Openstack-i18n mailing list Openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org
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