I18n in BCN: I18n contributor meetup wrap up
Hello! There were around total 20 participants for last I18n contributor meetup @Barcelona, including Daisy, Zanata team, Infrastructure team, Docs team, and Stackalytics team members! Thank you very much for such all kind and so active participation! Although there have been sort of time conflicts for some active translators and main contributors on other projects but who are helping i18n team a lot, we have met each other and discussed for better i18n. I think i18n team members have dealt various topics with so long time. If there was no time limit: 6pm, i18n members might have discussed much longer :) I am now transferring to go home and my final flight has been delayed about 3 hours, but thanks to such delay, I have briefly summarized now what have been discussed and what are results from I18n contributor meetup. Please see Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barcelona-i18n-meetup , and "Discussed Topics and Results" (2nd) section. - Andreas Jaeger shortly visited due to his return flight and we agreed with translation job import and export criteria. I have briefly summarized in number *(1)*. - Ilya Shakhat, who is a Stackalytics core developer and maintainer, kindly participated in the meetup. If anyone is interested in Stackalytics with i18n statistics, please refer to number *(3)* for the details. - Although there is another infrastructure team meeting on the same time, Elizabeth K. Joseph and Clark Boylan came to I18n contributor meetup (thank you so much again!). Zanata upgrade *(4)* is what i18n team is really waiting for. Alex Eng and Patrick Huang from Zanata team gave some beneficial feedback (e.g., current Zanata version number and new version release plan) through IRC in real time. Moreover, I hope that some discussion of translation checksite *(5)* will yield more positive progress, although it seems that more discussion is needed. - Also, Lana from Docs team PTL visited to i18n contributor meetup, although she was leading Docs contributor meetup on the same time. Lana and me both agreed that more communication between two teams will make nice fruit *(6)*. - For i18n activities, we have differentiated and clarified the usage of web pages : Zanata dashboard, Wiki, i18n contributor guide, and so on *(2)*, and also finalizing Ocata translation plans is very important during Ocata Design Summit *(7)*! I will update Zanata dashboard according to the finalization. Because of some time restriction, some topics has not been discussed yet or just briefly mentioned. Let's also consider those topics gradually such as on the next IRC meeting. Some meetup participants took photos. Frank shared photos to Etherpad! I hope that other participants will share photos soon. Hope all to have a return flight safely. Again, thank you very much all! With many thanks, /Ian
Hello, I just read this message including its link. Thank you for all contributors making the meetup reports. /suh - Bahasa Indonesia translator. 2016-10-30 8:48 GMT+07:00 Ian Y. Choi <ianyrchoi@gmail.com>:
Hello!
There were around total 20 participants for last I18n contributor meetup @Barcelona, including Daisy, Zanata team, Infrastructure team, Docs team, and Stackalytics team members!
Thank you very much for such all kind and so active participation! Although there have been sort of time conflicts for some active translators and main contributors on other projects but who are helping i18n team a lot, we have met each other and discussed for better i18n.
I think i18n team members have dealt various topics with so long time. If there was no time limit: 6pm, i18n members might have discussed much longer :)
I am now transferring to go home and my final flight has been delayed about 3 hours, but thanks to such delay, I have briefly summarized now what have been discussed and what are results from I18n contributor meetup.
Please see Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org /p/barcelona-i18n-meetup , and "Discussed Topics and Results" (2nd) section.
- Andreas Jaeger shortly visited due to his return flight and we agreed with translation job import and export criteria. I have briefly summarized in number *(1)*.
- Ilya Shakhat, who is a Stackalytics core developer and maintainer, kindly participated in the meetup. If anyone is interested in Stackalytics with i18n statistics, please refer to number *(3)* for the details.
- Although there is another infrastructure team meeting on the same time, Elizabeth K. Joseph and Clark Boylan came to I18n contributor meetup (thank you so much again!). Zanata upgrade *(4)* is what i18n team is really waiting for. Alex Eng and Patrick Huang from Zanata team gave some beneficial feedback (e.g., current Zanata version number and new version release plan) through IRC in real time. Moreover, I hope that some discussion of translation checksite *(5)* will yield more positive progress, although it seems that more discussion is needed.
- Also, Lana from Docs team PTL visited to i18n contributor meetup, although she was leading Docs contributor meetup on the same time. Lana and me both agreed that more communication between two teams will make nice fruit *(6)*.
- For i18n activities, we have differentiated and clarified the usage of web pages : Zanata dashboard, Wiki, i18n contributor guide, and so on *(2)*, and also finalizing Ocata translation plans is very important during Ocata Design Summit *(7)*! I will update Zanata dashboard according to the finalization.
Because of some time restriction, some topics has not been discussed yet or just briefly mentioned. Let's also consider those topics gradually such as on the next IRC meeting.
Some meetup participants took photos. Frank shared photos to Etherpad! I hope that other participants will share photos soon.
Hope all to have a return flight safely. Again, thank you very much all!
With many thanks,
/Ian
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Thanks for the summary and the good write up on the etherpad! I noticed "server projects - translation jobs for -logs-* will be removed". We have logs job in server projects and also in oslo projects (which are used by the server projects). Do you want to remove them everywhere - or are there projects where log files should be translated? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Hello Andreas! Thank you for mentioning oslo projects, since I did not recognize on last i18n contributors meetup. The main rationale to remove translation jobs for *-logs-* is that when operators encounter unfamiliar situations (e.g., nova error, keystone auth. error, and so on), searching on the Internet based on log content would have more results than searching translated log messages. Since most OpenStack operators deal with server projects rather frequently, removing translation *log* jobs IMO also removing translation jobs for oslo *-logs-* would be a good idea if this rationale is relevant to oslo projects. Based on my brief investigation on logs for oslo projects, IMO removal of translation jobs also for oslo projects will be fine. How do other translators think about it? With many thanks, /Ian Andreas Jaeger wrote on 10/30/2016 4:08 PM:
Thanks for the summary and the good write up on the etherpad!
I noticed "server projects - translation jobs for -logs-* will be removed".
We have logs job in server projects and also in oslo projects (which are used by the server projects). Do you want to remove them everywhere - or are there projects where log files should be translated?
Andreas
On 11/02/2016 05:31 PM, Ian Y. Choi wrote:
Hello Andreas!
Thank you for mentioning oslo projects, since I did not recognize on last i18n contributors meetup.
The main rationale to remove translation jobs for *-logs-* is that when operators encounter unfamiliar situations (e.g., nova error, keystone auth. error, and so on), searching on the Internet based on log content would have more results than searching translated log messages.
Since most OpenStack operators deal with server projects rather frequently, removing translation *log* jobs
IMO also removing translation jobs for oslo *-logs-* would be a good idea if this rationale is relevant to oslo projects. Based on my brief investigation on logs for oslo projects, IMO removal of translation jobs also for oslo projects will be fine.
I agree.
How do other translators think about it?
IMHO it's exactly the same - content ending in log files. Here's the infra change to not generate the log files anymore and remove them: https://review.openstack.org/392930 Marked as WIP for a few days, Andreas
With many thanks,
/Ian
Andreas Jaeger wrote on 10/30/2016 4:08 PM:
Thanks for the summary and the good write up on the etherpad!
I noticed "server projects - translation jobs for -logs-* will be removed".
We have logs job in server projects and also in oslo projects (which are used by the server projects). Do you want to remove them everywhere - or are there projects where log files should be translated?
Andreas
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-- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Hello Ian, hello all ! My return flight was cool... and short. Only 1h45 from Barcelona to Paris. And no jet lag ;) Thanks again for this great I18n meetup and working session ! -JF (jftalta) On 30/10/2016 02:48, Ian Y. Choi wrote:
Hello!
There were around total 20 participants for last I18n contributor meetup @Barcelona, including Daisy, Zanata team, Infrastructure team, Docs team, and Stackalytics team members!
Thank you very much for such all kind and so active participation! Although there have been sort of time conflicts for some active translators and main contributors on other projects but who are helping i18n team a lot, we have met each other and discussed for better i18n.
I think i18n team members have dealt various topics with so long time. If there was no time limit: 6pm, i18n members might have discussed much longer :)
I am now transferring to go home and my final flight has been delayed about 3 hours, but thanks to such delay, I have briefly summarized now what have been discussed and what are results from I18n contributor meetup.
Please see Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barcelona-i18n-meetup , and "Discussed Topics and Results" (2nd) section.
- Andreas Jaeger shortly visited due to his return flight and we agreed with translation job import and export criteria. I have briefly summarized in number *(1)*.
- Ilya Shakhat, who is a Stackalytics core developer and maintainer, kindly participated in the meetup. If anyone is interested in Stackalytics with i18n statistics, please refer to number *(3)* for the details.
- Although there is another infrastructure team meeting on the same time, Elizabeth K. Joseph and Clark Boylan came to I18n contributor meetup (thank you so much again!). Zanata upgrade *(4)* is what i18n team is really waiting for. Alex Eng and Patrick Huang from Zanata team gave some beneficial feedback (e.g., current Zanata version number and new version release plan) through IRC in real time. Moreover, I hope that some discussion of translation checksite *(5)* will yield more positive progress, although it seems that more discussion is needed.
- Also, Lana from Docs team PTL visited to i18n contributor meetup, although she was leading Docs contributor meetup on the same time. Lana and me both agreed that more communication between two teams will make nice fruit *(6)*.
- For i18n activities, we have differentiated and clarified the usage of web pages : Zanata dashboard, Wiki, i18n contributor guide, and so on *(2)*, and also finalizing Ocata translation plans is very important during Ocata Design Summit *(7)*! I will update Zanata dashboard according to the finalization.
Because of some time restriction, some topics has not been discussed yet or just briefly mentioned. Let's also consider those topics gradually such as on the next IRC meeting.
Some meetup participants took photos. Frank shared photos to Etherpad! I hope that other participants will share photos soon.
Hope all to have a return flight safely. Again, thank you very much all!
With many thanks,
/Ian
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participants (4)
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Andreas Jaeger
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Cloud Suhartono
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Ian Y. Choi
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JF Taltavull