As long as it is easy to use and effective, any translation tool and way will do. I am not sure what is the best way to translate openstack wiki. I don't think I can contribute this area, but there are several important topics to be considered. The pages in OpenStack wiki can be categorized into two areas: - Official contents (top page, release notes and some useful information) - Development purpose to share ideas The first category is worth translated, but I don't see any value in the second area. IMO it is not a good idea to import all pages as a whole because translators cannot know which pages have priority and which pages do not. In addition, MediaWiki has many directives. When converting translated version of pages, such cases should be considered. Some directives depends the structures (the directive I used to list subpages is a good example) These directives has no meaning in sub pages and they should not exist in sub pages. Thanks, Akihiro On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com> wrote:
Thanks, Akihiro
Maybe in some days, translation of important wiki pages become our team's official works. We need to find an efficient way for wiki translation while we are evaluating the new translation tools.
I personally don't like to use MediaWiki directly as the translation tool. Because translation memory and glossary don't work here. But as a temporary solution, I think MediaWiki is good enough.
Regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com> wrote on 2013/10/22 12:49:25:
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Hi Daisy, Gabriel and all,
I prefer to editing MediaWiki directly too. I believe it is more human friendly interface.
I would like to share small tips to track the changes in the English pages. I use the wiki history use to track the change in the original.
---- - Go to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Havana - Click "Page" at left upper and select "History" - You can see the history. - Click a date of a page you use. - You see a snopshot page of each revision - Copy URL and paste it into your translation page. (e.g., https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=ReleaseNotes/ Havana&oldid=33339 )
From this page you can check the diff to the latest page or newer version. ----
I think this is the version we started to discuss the release note translation.
https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=ReleaseNotes/Havana&oldid=32971 There are a few updates in the original page. https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=ReleaseNotes/ Havana&diff=cur&oldid=32971
Thanks, Akihiro
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Gabriel Wainer <gabrielcw@gmail.com> wrote:
HI all,
If the update goes like this, I wonder if I need to translate intotransifex at all. Because I prefer to do it directly in the wiki also...
Thanks, Gabriel.
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com> wrote:
Hi, SungJin
How is the wiki page going? Do you need my help?
Chinese translation is also finished. I found Transifex was not so good at wiki page translation. When I moved the translations to OpenStack wiki, I made a lot of changes in the format.
Regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
SungJin Kang <gang.sungjin@gmail.com> wrote on 2013/10/22 01:30:21:
SungJin Kang <gang.sungjin@gmail.com> 2013/10/22 01:30
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huk......
Orz......
2013/10/22 Gabriel Wainer <gabrielcw@gmail.com> Oh man! I was creating the wiki page directly. I will copy to transifex since probably it will be overridden :/
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:59 PM, SungJin Kang <gang.sungjin@gmail.com> wrote: Hi,
ko_KR 100%...
but I don't know from transifex to Wiki page.
Thanks, Sungjin
2013/10/22 Gabriel Wainer <gabrielcw@gmail.com> Hi,
pt_BR is around 30% done and counting.
Best, Gabriel.
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all,
How is your translation going?
We Japanese team completed the translation of Havana release notes (with some reviews) and announced it on the japanese mailing lists and twitter Saturday night. It is really nice we have translated version of the release notes.
Note that I have not created a link in the official release note page to translated wiki pages.
Thanks, Akihiro
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com> wrote:
Havana#OpenStack_Documentation
I feel the release notes should be translated too. Who has the same feeling ?
Regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)