Hi Daisy and all, It may be off-topic already.... On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com> wrote:
How do you think using the same mechanism to track bugs as other projects (e.g. docs, infrastructure)? For example, bugs management in launchpad?
Perhaps your are talking about the following topic in my mail.
* Bug/Issue tracking * Discussion or Bug which is not specific to each translation should be handled in broader scope. E.g., translation memory related, upstream bugs, ..... (I am not sure these are good examples..)
In general, the same mechanism should work. If a bug or topic is common to all languages it is very simple and the same mechanism should work. In many cases it is a bug of upstream projects (such as openstack-manuals, horizon, ...). What in my mind are for tracking topics rather than simple bugs. It is the reason The only difference is how to manage language-specific topics: For example, during Japanese translations there are a glossary discussion, wording policy throughout a single translation and across translations. It is better such topics are discussed in their native/local languages. If we use a common platform for I18N, is it confortable if multiple languages are used in a single bug system. I believe it is not comfortable. (For now, we Japanese team are using our own GitHub project and issue tracking system for this purpose.) Regards, Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com>
The question is: when finding bugs, do we fix bugs through translation UI or updating po files directly? If we choose the later one, I think launchpad can be used.
Regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com> wrote on 2013/11/02 17:58:59:
Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com> 2013/11/02 17:58
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Re: [Openstack-i18n] Collecting requirements to translation tools
Hi,
I believe the list is becoming a good share already.
I would like to add
* Good review interfaces and tracking status of comments. * We need a discussion for better translation. The string seems wrong, I am sure what it means,..... * When the translation is updated, we need to confirm it is reasonably improved. * We need to track what are addressed and what are not. * Bug/Issue tracking * Discussion or Bug which is not specific to each translation should be handled in broader scope. E.g., translation memory related, upstream bugs, ..... (I am not sure these are good examples..)
Thanks, Akihiro
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com> wrote: Hi, I18n team
One year ago, when the community was making the decision to use Transifex as the translation management tool, a table was made to compare several different tools: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqevw3Q- ErDUdFgzT3VNVXQxd095bFgzODRmajJDeVE&usp=drive_web#gid=0
Now since Transifex began to close its source code, we will do another round of tool selection to find the translation management tool for Openstack translation.
We will start from requirements collection. Here I listed some. (Some are copied from the old table. The last three items are newly added. )
* Cross-project translation teams * Cross-project translation memory * Good in-browser translation interface * Good in-browser review interface * Easy import/export of translation files * Support for all common translation formats * Git/GitHub Integration * Hooks for CI infrastructure * Management workflows that fit OpenStack process * Self-hosted * Proven success with large projects * API to gather statistics about translators * Easily see the translating context, i.g. the paragraph or section that contains the translation string. * Cross-project glossary and dictionary
Please feel free to present your requirements to the translation management tool. If you know some good candidate tools, please speak out too. Let's find out the most appropriate tool together, and build a "wonderful" working environment for ourselves.
Regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
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