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Fwd: Final plans before translations switch to Zanata
by ਅਨਪੜ੍ਹ ਜਿਮੀਂਦਾਰ 08 Sep '15

08 Sep '15

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Arvinder Singh Kang* <contact(a)arvinderkang.com> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 Subject: [Openstack-i18n] Final plans before translations switch to Zanata To: Amandeep Saini <jimidar(a)gmail.com> pa-IN is flawed and Panjabi is not a proprietary language of India - but language is spread across the world.e.g. It is the third most spoken/written language in BC after English. Also pa-Arab is not appropriate because there is no direct connection between spoken Arabic and Punjabi. pa-Guru / pa-Shah would make a much better argument. On Sep 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, ਅਨਪੜ੍ਹ ਜਿਮੀਂਦਾਰ <jimidar(a)gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jimidar(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: What you think about suggested language codes for opensatck in zanata? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Sean Flanigan* <sflaniga(a)redhat.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sflaniga(a)redhat.com');>> Date: Sunday, September 6, 2015 Subject: [Openstack-i18n] Final plans before translations switch to Zanata To: ਅਨਪੜ੍ਹ ਜਿਮੀਂਦਾਰ <jimidar(a)gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jimidar(a)gmail.com');>> Cc: openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org');>, openstack-infra(a)lists.openstack.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','openstack-infra(a)lists.openstack.org');> On 5 September 2015 at 05:41, ਅਨਪੜ੍ਹ ਜਿਮੀਂਦਾਰ <jimidar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Please find my comments for bn and pa inline. > > Thanks > Jimidar > (Amandeep Singh) > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.com> wrote: > >> >> pa-IN >>> >> >> Rename to pa? > > > Punjabi (pa) has two scripts, one is Gurmukhi used in Indian side of > Punjab and the other is Shahmukhi (Urdu) used in Pakistan's Punjab, so > renaming to a generalized name wont do the justice to both entirely > different scripts. > Would "pa-Guru" work as a more general locale for Punjabi Gurmukhi? With "pa-Arab" for Punjabi Shahmukhi? -- Sean Flanigan Principal Software Engineer Globalisation Tools Engineering Red Hat

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Final plans before translations switch to Zanata
by Elizabeth K. Joseph 07 Sep '15

07 Sep '15

Hi everyone, As I mentioned at the infrastructure meeting yesterday[0], we are almost ready to launch the production Zanata server (translate.openstack.org) I have a week long trip starting this Friday night so I'm sharing my plans here so clarkb, StevenK and others can continue the work while I'm gone. I'm Cc:ing the translations team on this message so they are kept in the loop. First of all, timeline-wise we're aiming to get this in the hands of the translators by the week of September 7th so they have time to do their work before the Liberty release. We have a few improvements to installation that we still need to work out: 1. Switch to archive module for server installation (change here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192901/) 2. Switch to archive module for client installation (I'll get that change proposed today) 3. Figure out why Wildfly 9.1 isn't being installed and used (instead of 8.1 that we began with), in spite of changing the download link (it's being downloaded) and upgrading the puppet-wildfly module (Steve: you've doven into the latest changes in the puppet-wildfly module, perhaps you're in a good place to look at this?) This should all be finished in the next couple days and we can then launch translate.openstack.org Beyond raw server launching, there are a few other things that we need to make sure happen: 1. Work with Carlos to get instructions for properly importing the user database to the new server (I've Cc:ed him here, we need this ASAP) 2. Work with Daisy to make sure there are cut-over instructions from Transifex to Zanata, and if there's anything we need to do (we should make a plan, even if the exact date is not clear) 3. Generally make sure everything on our script side of things is going well (StevenK has done an amazing job with these so I'm not worried) 4. Make sure we have imported everything we need. AJaeger will be traveling some too, but had the following to say: "First priority would be that the translators can translate. So, this means pushing source strings to Zanata (at least once initially) and getting them working is most important. Then the regular update after each change (which should be working fine already). Importing in the projects can wait a few days, there's no harm if that one stops for a week or two since we do not lose time this way. For translation the most important project is horizon with it's friends" I think that's it. I'll do my best to check in and reply to email and IRC pings while I'm traveling, but some things may need to wait until I'm back at my hotel in the [US east coast] evening. I'll be back the [US west coast] night of Sunday, September 6th. The 7th is a holiday in the US, but I'll be available if we have unexpected problems to work through. Thanks everyone. [0] Starting 19:19: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-08-25-19.00.l… -- Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph || Lyz || pleia2

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Migrating to Zanata - Progress update
by Ying Chun Guo 07 Sep '15

07 Sep '15

Hello, team According to the update from infrastructure team, the migration will happen in this week, probably on late Tuesday PDT time. All the preparation work is done. Just need an appropriate time to kick off. Now there are 92 users registered in Zanata trial instance (i.e. translate-dev.openstack.org ). 8 language teams have coordinators. Comparing with 900+ translators and 80+ language teams in Transifex, there is still a big gap. More details about the translation teams in Zanata could be found here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/Migration-to-zanata I'm going to use "messaging" in Transifex to inform the change to coordinators of some "important" language teams , one by one. If you have good suggestions to attract more translators from Transifex to Zanata, please let me know. Thank you. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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[nova][i18n] Is there any point in using _() in python-novaclient?
by Matt Riedemann 05 Sep '15

05 Sep '15

I noticed this today: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219768/ And it got me thinking about something I've wondered before - why do we even use _() in python-novaclient? It doesn't have any .po files for babel message translation, it has no babel config, there is nothing in setup.cfg about extracting messages and compiling them into .mo's, there is nothing on Transifex for python-novaclient, etc. Is there a way to change your locale and get translated output in nova CLIs? I didn't find anything in docs from a quick google search. Comparing to python-openstackclient, that does have a babel config and some locale po files in tree, at least for de and zh_TW. So if this doesn't work in python-novaclient, do we need any of the i18n code in there? It doesn't really hurt, but it seems pointless to push changes for it or try to keep user-facing messages in mind in the code. -- Thanks, Matt Riedemann

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What's Up, Doc? 4 September, 2015
by Lana Brindley 03 Sep '15

03 Sep '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, This has been a fairly busy week, with Summit preparations beginning, more newly migrated RST books going live, and testing starting on the Install Guide. I've been spending time on sorting out the Liberty blueprints still outstanding, and also working on some old bugs. == Progress towards Liberty == 40 days to go! * RST conversion: ** Is now completed! Well done and a huge thank you to everyone who converted pages, approved reviews, and participated in publishing the new guides. This was a truly phenomenal effort :) * User Guides information architecture overhaul ** Some user analysis has begun, and we have a new blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/user-guides-reo rganised * Greater focus on helping out devs with docs in their repo ** A certain amount of progress has been made here, and some wrinkles sorted out which will improve this process for the future. * Improve how we communicate with and support our corporate contributors ** If you currently work on documentation for a company that would like to improve their upstream commits for documentation, please contact me! * Improve communication with Docs Liaisons ** I'm very pleased to see liaisons getting more involved in our bugs and reviews. Keep up the good work! * Clearing out old bugs ** The last lot of old bugs are still languishing. I'm assuming you all hate them so very much that I've decided to give you three more to pick from. Have at it! == Countdown to Summit == With the Liberty release less than two months away, that means it's nearly Summit time again: https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/ The schedule has now been released, congratulations to everyone who had a talk accepted this time around: https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/schedule/ All ATCs should have received their pass by now, so now is the time to be booking your travel and accommodation: https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/tokyo-and-travel/ == Conventions == A new governance patch has landed which changes the way we capitalise service names (I know almost exactly 50% of you will be happy about this!): https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Conventions#Service_and_pr oject_names Please be aware of this when editing files, and remember that the 'source of truth' for these things is the projects.yaml file: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/projec ts.yaml == Docs Tools == openstack-doc-tools 0.30.0 and openstackdocstheme 1.2.1 have been released. openstack-doc-tools allows translation of the Install Guide. openstackdocstheme contains fixes for the inclusion of metatags, removes unused images and javascript files, and fixes the "Docs Home" link. == Doc team meeting == The APAC meeting was not held this week. The minutes from the previous US meeting are here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/MeetingLogs#2015-08-26 The next meetings are: US: Wednesday 9 September, 14:00:00 UTC APAC: Wednesday 16 September, 00:30:00 UTC Please go ahead and add any agenda items to the meeting page here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_ meeting == Spotlight bugs for this week == Let's give these three a little love: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1280092 end user guide lacks doc on admin password injection https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1282765 Chapter 6. Block Storage in OpenStack Cloud Administrator Guide https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1284215 Driver for IBM SONAS and Storwize V7000 Unified - -- Remember, if you have content you would like to add to this newsletter, or you would like to be added to the distribution list, please email me directly at openstack(a)lanabrindley.com, or visit: https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation/WhatsUpDoc Keep on doc'ing! Lana - -- Lana Brindley Technical Writer Rackspace Cloud Builders Australia http://lanabrindley.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJV6TlFAAoJELppzVb4+KUy/zkIAKYKbKdw78Nv8dpB8d9Rj4qh +JTK2rTlz/Up5F10OzIoJoNMIvySeKH+jHV1CP0qL9KigYaepkEeMn8RnNSayYww cgSmk/8gpzGTTd17JK0Rrn+RjOb3XMYeNH2d4OkvIQPGBAYsnerODrvEK3GG7YHO oo5xYSkLdYH54qnXhhvNZxjxDclT1P5QgpUP6M6KcB3bcKt4niHGLHnBHFoqvlMR gJA1BtKR6CackhZbkJpPFCpEHimm4xdWwF+q7xRezy599MbkkPAIxR/oMuEkqU2H zj+tm9sHDxOoH2j4Hfkbw7xxF+/NjvGtm41JCPsUVBxuAocaBbJ1kZRbbRzrafI= =2TAI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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IRC meeting tomorrow
by Ying Chun Guo 02 Sep '15

02 Sep '15

Hello, team We will have the IRC meeting at UTC 0600 in the channel #openstack-meeting, on September 3rd. I will be there to answer any questions about Liberty translation and new translation platform. Join the meeting if you have any concerns and questions. Following topics will be covered: * Zanata status and QA * Liberty translation plan and QA * Open discussions If you have other topics, feel free to propose. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Zanata migration on 9/7?
by Akihiro Motoki 01 Sep '15

01 Sep '15

Hi Daisy, I heard from other Japanese translators that we will move to Zanata on Sep 7. Is it officially decided? As far as I heard it was announced only on Transifex message [1]. After I heard that, I checked various place in Transifex but I could not find any announce. In addition, I completely disable Transifex message as almost of them are useless. Has it already been announced in this list? Don't we need to announce it in this list? I thought this list is the official place where this kind of important information is announced. Is my understanding wrong? Akihiro [1] https://www.transifex.com/openstack/teams/670/discussions/13508/

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Russian translations with 4 pluralities?
by Douglas Fish 27 Aug '15

27 Aug '15

I notice that the RU files that are coming out of Transifex right now have 4 pluralities: https://www.transifex.com/openstack/horizon/horizon-translations/ru/downloa… which is unexpected to me. I'd expect RU files to have 3 pluralities like we see in Zanata https://translate-dev.openstack.org/rest/file/translation/horizon/master/ru… Does anyone know why the RU files from Transifex look this way? Should it concern us? Will this make any uploading to Zanata difficult? Doug Fish

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HA Conversion to RST and translations
by Andreas Jaeger 27 Aug '15

27 Aug '15

Dear i18n team, The High Availability Guide is now nearly finished with the RST conversion and we now have both old and new guide in transifex. You have now these resources in transifex: * high-availability-guide: This is the old DocBook version, it will soon get removed. Don't translate anymore! * ha-guide: This is the new RST version. The HA team is still doing some rework of the new RST HA guide, so I suggest you don't start translation of it yet until we tell you that it's ready. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Japanese Install Guides publishing - and openstack-doc-tools 0.30.1
by Andreas Jaeger 27 Aug '15

27 Aug '15

Congrats to the Japanese translation team! We now have the RST Install Guides translated and up for review on http://docs.openstack.org/draft/draft-index.html To properly publish the Debian version of it, we had to release openstack-doc-tools 0.30.1. 0.30.1 fixes also one annoying issue a few of you fall into: When you run tox -e checklang, files were changed and some of you committed them by accident. This will not happen anymore, checklang now cleans up properly. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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