November 2015 - OpenStack-I18n - lists.openstack.org

Transifex
by Ying Chun Guo 16 Dec '15

16 Dec '15

Hello, team I have handled all the team join requests to OpenStack in Transifex, sending emails to inform the tool change and then rejecting them. I noticed there was no translations happened in Transifex after Oct. I think we could start to remove Openstack projects from Transifex. We may find a place to back up firstly, and then remove. Any objections to the remove ? Any suggestions about the back up ? Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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external reference in RST and translation
by Akihiro Motoki 27 Nov '15

27 Nov '15

Hi, It is about RST formatting and translation, again. I had a trouble in translating the following type of external references. The following style is used especially when the same reference is used multiple times. In this case, translators MUST keep an original label, in this case 'User guide' in English even if there is more appropriate string in each language. If translators translate such strings, we will get a broken external link. I don't have a good solution on this other than keep original strings at now. Any suggestions? (http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/rst-conv/refs.html#external-ref…) ---- Here is an external web link separated from its definition: This paragraph contains the link to `User guide`_. ... .. format the link definition at the end of the file as follows: .. _`User guide`: http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/ ---- Thanks, Akihiro

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Code block in RST and translation
by Akihiro Motoki 27 Nov '15

27 Nov '15

Hi, According to [1], we use two types of code blocks in RST documentations. The one is to end a line with "::" [2] and the other is to use 'code-block'. During translation, I noticed the first style can be a wrong formatting in translated documents (it will be considered as "block quote" as far as I tested). It is not easy that translators understand "::" at end of line has a special meaning. To keep the format, translators MUST keep "::" at the end of line, but ":" is rarely used in some languages and I think they will forget "::" easily. In addition, it is hard to detect this kind of things during translation reviews. Note that other RST conventions are easier to be recognized as special because they are very different from usual strings. On the other hand, ending a line with "::" is a standard ReST convention and it is widely used in writing documents in ReST format. My idea at now is to use "code-block" directive as possible as we can, but I am not sure it is the right direction as "::" is widely used. Thought? Thanks, Akihiro [1] http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/rst-conv/source-code.html [2] http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/rst-conv/source-code.html#stand… [3] http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/index.html#search-in-this-guide

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Arch Design Guide RST conversion finished
by KATO Tomoyuki 27 Nov '15

27 Nov '15

Hi team, Docs team finished Arch Design Guide RST conversion. At now, new RST translation resource is uploaded to Zanata. openstack-manuals / arch-design (same name) Best Regards, KATO Tomoyuki

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release notes translation
by KATO Tomoyuki 25 Nov '15

25 Nov '15

Hi team, Maybe, as you know, we have the new release notes tool "reno". As far as I know, reno doesn't have translation feature. I'm not sure whether it is planned or not. So, we need to contact and maybe work with reno team. Anyone, interested in taking a lead? Here is a rough blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+spec/release-notes-transla… Best Regards, KATO Tomoyuki

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DocImpact Changes
by Lana Brindley 25 Nov '15

25 Nov '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi everyone, The DocImpact flag was implemented back in Havana to make it easier for developers to notify the documentation team when a patch might cause a change in the docs. This has had an overwhelming response, resulting in a huge amount of technical debt for the docs team, so we've been working on a plan to change how DocImpact works. This way, instead of just creating a lot of noise, it will hopefully go back to being a useful tool. This is written in more detail in our spec[1], but this email attempts to hit the highlights for you. TL;DR: In the future, you will need to add a description whenever you add a DocImpact flag in your commit message. Right now, if you create a patch and include 'DocImpact' in the commit message, Infra raises a bug in either the openstack-manuals queue, or (for some projects) your own project queue. DocImpact is capable of handling a description field, but this is rarely used. Instead, docs writers are having to dig through your patch to determine what (if any) change is required. What we are now implementing has two main facets: * The DocImpact flag can only be used if it includes a description. A Jenkins job will test for this, and if you include DocImpact without a description, the job will fail. The description can be a short note about what needs changing in the docs, a link to a gist or etherpad with more information, or a note about the location of incorrect docs. There are specific examples in the spec[2]. * Only Nova, Swift, Glance, Keystone, and Cinder will have DocImpact bugs created in the openstack-manuals queue. All other projects will have DocImpact bugs raised in their own queue. This is handled in [3] and [4]. This will hopefully reduce the volume of DocImpact bugs being created in the openstack-manuals queue, and also improve the quality of the bugs that are created. I know there is a fair amount of confusion over DocImpact already, so I'm more than happy to field questions on this. Thanks, Lana 1: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/mitaka/review-docimpa… 2: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/mitaka/review-docimpa… 3: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248515/ 4: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248549/ - -- Lana Brindley Technical Writer Rackspace Cloud Builders Australia http://lanabrindley.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWU5Q0AAoJELppzVb4+KUyYz4H/j+iAG5x2iRiNbJMBgxm5Qb5 tvxzlOePHZa6VQKj1gYrp8wnBFab0CsNDt/U03D8H9D6No2hqz5qvFgOuMDXIOkS DXG+2RDD8xKMRS42t70mNtJu2oPl+9BWIre+Qyvjd7heicGd+lN/mqAvmwVV3tKB fwJl3iLrlSpwwsyunzR3LxGxzVfHUroRdFv11iQGQZNJYbS9DfOLsz66e5JBTZPh ZoCK8VAlEionaL8ExppoMPQOwpU0oYMWSjM2HGxlc/RDrNEz7HWfXl36nxqfw/mO q8Op0p5cn5UW4fYv/9Ufbw6k0JRgwODCwzSEzJ73gmOJpBrcTEdZKocnGDSdtYA= =CCIn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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New guides published
by Andreas Jaeger 25 Nov '15

25 Nov '15

FYI, Japanese networking guide and Chinese (zh_CN) Install Guides have been added as drafts: http://docs.openstack.org/draft/draft-index.html Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Virtual Machine Image Guide RST conversion finished
by KATO Tomoyuki 24 Nov '15

24 Nov '15

Hi team, Sorry for late announce. Virtual Machine Image Guide RST conversion has finished. You can look at new translation resource at Zanata: openstack-manuals/image-guide (same name) Unfortunatelly, we has droped the translations with XML markup, which is replaced with RST markup. However, we can easily translate them from Zanata translation memory. Tips: The strings ":guilabel:`xxxx`" is needed to keep this structure. :guilabel:`[yourlanguage]` This is a kind of RST markup. Best Regards, KATO Tomoyuki

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translate.openstack.org upgraded to Zanata 3.7.3
by Elizabeth K. Joseph 20 Nov '15

20 Nov '15

Hi everyone, Thanks to work by Steve Kowalik and testing the upgrades on our translate-dev server, we have landed the upgrade of the production Zanata server from 3.7.1 to 3.7.3. This isn't a major upgrade, but if you're curious as to what has changed, release notes are as follows for the two versions we've upgraded through: 3.7.2: http://docs.zanata.org/en/latest/release-notes/#372 3.7.3: http://docs.zanata.org/en/latest/release-notes/#373 We'd like to involve Daisy and others as we do subsequent upgrades, particularly when we reach the major releases. Steve has written a script to query the API prior to upgrade and after the upgrade on the dev server so that we can be more confident that all of our scripts will continue to work in production, and I'll ask for volunteers from this team to look at translate-dev to confirm that the UI acts the way we expect it to after upgrading translate-dev and before upgrading the production translate server. I've logged in and walked through the UI post upgrade today, but please let us know if you have any trouble. -- Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph || Lyz || pleia2

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What's Up Doc, 20 Nov 2015
by Lana Brindley 19 Nov '15

19 Nov '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi everyone, This week I've been working on catching up with some reviews and bug triage, I've been speaking to O'Reilly about the future of the Ops Guide, and also been working on a range of other things including docs-specs core team review, and the addition of Zaqar docs into the user guides. Just a quick heads up that there won't be a docs newsletter next week, though, as I'm taking a couple of days off (my Mum is coming to visit!), so I'll see you again around 4 December. For those of you in the United States, I hope you all have a lovely Thanksgiving :) == Progress towards Mitaka == 138 days to go! 119 bugs closed so far for this release. RST Conversions * Arch Guide ** https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/archguide-mitaka-r… ** Contact the Ops Guide Speciality team: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide * Ops Guide ** https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/ops-guide-rst ** Determining whether or not we want to do an updated version for O'Reilly in L * Config Ref ** Contact the Config Ref Speciality team: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/ConfigRef * Virtual Machine Image Guide ** https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/image-guide-rst and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244598/ Reorganisations * Arch Guide ** https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/archguide-mitaka-r… ** Doc sprint in planning for December. Contact the Ops Guide speciality team for more info or to get involved. ** Contact the Ops Guide Speciality team: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide * User Guides ** https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/user-guides-reorga… ** Contact the User Guide Speciality team: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/User_Guides DocImpact * I've added some examples to the spec, and we're pretty much ready to go now: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/review-docimpact Document openstack-doc-tools and reorganise index page * Thanks to Brian and Christian for volunteering to take this on! Horizon UX work * Thanks to the people who offered to help out on this! If you're interested but haven't gotten in touch yet, contact Piet Kruithof of the UX team. == Speciality Teams == '''HA Guide - Bogdan Dobrelya''' Two patches look ready for merge now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225418/ and https://review.openstack.org/235893 '''Installation Guide - Christian Berendt''' Business as usual. Nothing special to mention this week. '''Networking Guide - Edgar Magana''' Open Reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239361/ Merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246671/ Very slow progress, hoping to speed up after the USA holidays. '''Security Guide - Nathaniel Dillon''' No update this week '''User Guides - Joseph Robinson''' After a specification update, there is a need to provide a more comprehensive scope: a list of Core features within scope, and include research on the nova-network/ neutron migration study. Contact from Zaqar, Trove, and Murano Liaisons on Admin guide tasks has been helpful, and given the reorganisation direction. A patch on fernet tokens (FAQ format) merged into the Cloud Admin Guide this week. '''Ops and Arch Guides - Darren Chan''' Arch guide migration is close to completion. We are currently planning to reorganize the guide over a two day virtual sprint in mid December. '''API Docs - Anne Gentle''' Review ready for the Mitaka specification of a vision for app dev docs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246660/ '''Config Ref - Gauvain Pocentek''' The tools are ready, the liberty branch is set up, the RST migration is on! Pick your file, run the tools, and let's review. '''Training labs - Pranav Salunke''' Training-labs has Kilo patch merged! We are currently updating the network configuration and trying to get things as per Matt's feedback/request. We plan to start adding Liberty very soon and also KVM port is on the way. '''Training Guides - Matjaz Pancur''' There is interest in translating Upstream training; we are waiting for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245615/ to merge to enable it on the repo. '''Hyperviser Tuning Guide - Joe Topjian''' On schedule - working on changing bullet-point notes into rough draft sections. == Doc team meeting == We held the US docs meeting this week, you can read the minutes here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/MeetingLogs#2015-11-18 Next meetings: APAC: Wednesday 25 November, 00:30:00 UTC US: Wednesday 2 December, 14:00 UTC Please go ahead and add any agenda items to the meeting page here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_mee… - -- Keep on doc'ing! Lana - -- Lana Brindley Technical Writer Rackspace Cloud Builders Australia http://lanabrindley.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWTqEMAAoJELppzVb4+KUyx8AH/0AOs2kfvR8TwvMTO9FSuT2F UkfrQfzqPIPjU0d4prIkFxJJ3k9NlGDS4+h2lgZSsqYSDRfinoYMkzAOFGOBB0I/ P9KYx7dd+IRagmF2bOfIDBhl+qTxD4GrzaKdzpH9kAaizmf1xylk6VCXT2Yh0PRd wPRw7RAXg3XjvJhQIElm0pNoRijikAR1CfafzR+HnZMswXPI1S1NnwQSBJD3yYwK npdfEiICdIkzTcdNMODzN57PXkLBymb++EAW/UsWEnmlyyIGJTZqlJNbd8TAGjHz vpvILlZHsuJ8mavPASStZy0ZZad3svusNf6pbsZEdUcS3ibZKRSb3xpEOh31eC0= =7tXE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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IRC meeting tomorrow
by Ying Chun Guo 18 Nov '15

18 Nov '15

Hello, team We will have IRC meeting tomorrow at 1300 UTC in the IRC channel #openstack-meeting. I'm going to cover following topics tomorrow. If you have more topics, please propose freely. * Status update and issues collection of the work items * Discussion: how to manage I18n related bug reports ? * Open discussions Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] RFC: draft doc on how to report translation bugs
by Akihiro Motoki 18 Nov '15

18 Nov '15

BTW, The I18n team meeting wiki page says the next meeting is "Thursday, 5th December at 0600 UTC". Is this wrong information? 2015-11-18 11:59 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: > Thank you for initiating this. > Besides discussion in Gerrit, > let's create a topic to discuss it in the IRC meeting tomorrow. > > Best regards > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/17 20:00:13: > >> From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> >> To: "openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org" >> <Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> >> Date: 2015/11/17 20:28 >> Subject: [Openstack-i18n] RFC: draft doc on how to report translation bugs > >> >> Hi team, >> >> I proposed a doc patch on how to report a translation/I18N bugs. >> >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246256/ >> >> It discusses which and where bugs should be filed. >> I know we don't have any consensus on how to manage >> language-specific translation bugs. >> My draft is just a start-line and I don't think it is best. >> Any discussion and input would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Akihiro >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openstack-i18n mailing list >> Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n >> >

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RFC: draft doc on how to report translation bugs
by Akihiro Motoki 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

Hi team, I proposed a doc patch on how to report a translation/I18N bugs. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246256/ It discusses which and where bugs should be filed. I know we don't have any consensus on how to manage language-specific translation bugs. My draft is just a start-line and I don't think it is best. Any discussion and input would be appreciated. Thanks, Akihiro

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] stable-liberty version for openstack-manuals created in Zanata
by Andreas Jaeger 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

On 2015-11-17 10:49, Ying Chun Guo wrote: > Hi, Andreas > > I see stable/liberty is created in the repo of openstack-manuals, > and stable-liberty version is created for openstack-manuals project in > Zanata. > Thank you for handling these. > > Is the installation guide in the master branch keeping open for Mitaka > release? Yes. > So in order to translate Liberty installation guide, our translators should > go to stable-liberty and work there. Correct. > I have changed the link of openstack manuals in the home page > translation plan > to stable-liberty version. > Correct me if I'm wrong. Looks fine Andreas > Thank you. > Best regards > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > ----- Forwarded by Ying Chun Guo/China/IBMon 2015/11/17 17:40----- > > Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.com> wrote on 2015/11/16 23:44:58: > > > From: Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.com> > > To: "openstack-docs(a)lists.openstack.org" > <openstack-docs(a)lists.openstack.org> > > Date: 2015/11/16 23:46 > > Subject: [OpenStack-docs] stable/liberty for openstack-manuals > > created - and frozen! > > > > Thanks to Spencer Krum (nibalicer) we now have a stable/liberty branch > > for openstack-manuals. > > > > I now need to setup the branch and ask for a freeze of stable/liberty > > until I have given the go ahead for the branch! I need to set it up and > > document all the steps ;) > > > > Merging of changes for master is fine but do not merge any for > liberty yet! > > > > Thanks > > Andreas > > -- > > Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi > > SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany > > GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, > > HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) > > GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OpenStack-docs mailing list > > OpenStack-docs(a)lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-docs > -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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stable-liberty version for openstack-manuals created in Zanata
by Ying Chun Guo 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

Hi, Andreas I see stable/liberty is created in the repo of openstack-manuals, and stable-liberty version is created for openstack-manuals project in Zanata. Thank you for handling these. Is the installation guide in the master branch keeping open for Mitaka release? So in order to translate Liberty installation guide, our translators should go to stable-liberty and work there. I have changed the link of openstack manuals in the home page translation plan to stable-liberty version. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) ----- Forwarded by Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM on 2015/11/17 17:40 ----- Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.com> wrote on 2015/11/16 23:44:58: > From: Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.com> > To: "openstack-docs(a)lists.openstack.org" <openstack-docs(a)lists.openstack.org> > Date: 2015/11/16 23:46 > Subject: [OpenStack-docs] stable/liberty for openstack-manuals > created - and frozen! > > Thanks to Spencer Krum (nibalicer) we now have a stable/liberty branch > for openstack-manuals. > > I now need to setup the branch and ask for a freeze of stable/liberty > until I have given the go ahead for the branch! I need to set it up and > document all the steps ;) > > Merging of changes for master is fine but do not merge any for liberty yet! > > Thanks > Andreas > -- > Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi > SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany > GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, > HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) > GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-docs mailing list > OpenStack-docs(a)lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-docs

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Rename the language code of Punjabi
by Ying Chun Guo 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

Hello, According to previous discussion[1], it seems like pa-IN is meaningless. "Punjabi has two entirely different scripts i.e. Gurmukhi (ਪੈਂਤੀ) and Shahmukhi (اردو), while former is widely used in Indian side of Punjab aka Eastern Punjab the latter is used in Pakistani side of Punjab aka Western Punjab." The translations of pa-IN are mixing of two kinds of characters. So I think we should rename pa-IN to pa-Guru, in order to avoid confusing. I see Alam prefer to use "pa", not "pa-Guru". [2] But I think pa-Guru is more clear than pa. @Alam and Amandeep, correct me if I'm wrong. I have created a blueprint.[3] The work items include both the language team rename in Zanata and the folder rename in repo. Please review. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2015-September/001358.h… [2] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2015-September/001424.h… [3] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+spec/rename-punjabi-code

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Duplicated toctree of sidebar in translated install guides
by Akihiro Motoki 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

Hi, I noticed translated install guides have a toctree in the sidebar twice. The example is http://docs.openstack.org/draft/ja/install-guide-obs/ . I filed a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1516079 . It is due to the change in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237885/ and I think it is because index.rst has two toctree. We are doing a special handling in tools/build-install-guides-rst.sh when generating a non-translated install guide. Do we need a similar handling for translated install guides? The translated install guides are currently generated by doc-tools-check-languages and some infra jobs. I am not confident how they are involved. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Akihiro

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How can i join Chinese (China) team？
by gaoxiao zhu 16 Nov '15

16 Nov '15

Hi all, I registered myself for the Chinese (China) translation project .I am looking forward to begin contributing for the project. What should I do? Best regards

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
by Tom Fifield 15 Nov '15

15 Nov '15

On 13/11/15 14:00, Ying Chun Guo wrote: > Thank you, Akihiro. > It looks wonderful. > I think we could mark I18nTeam translatable now. > > Tom, please help. The page I18nTeam has been marked up for translation with 14 translation units. The page can now be translated. > Best regards > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/12 23:06:14: > > > From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> > > To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN > > Cc: Tom Fifield <tom(a)openstack.org>, Openstack-i18n <openstack- > > i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> > > Date: 2015/11/12 23:06 > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable > > > > Hi Daisy, > > > > I move all team wiki pages to I18nTeam/team/xxxxx. > > In addition, I created a page > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team > > which contains a list of language teams. > > > > Akihiro > > > > 2015-11-12 16:04 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: > > > Thank you Tom. > > > Sorry for the trouble. > > > I will move all the team wiki pages to different links. > > > > > > Best regards > > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > > > > > > > Tom Fifield <tom(a)openstack.org> wrote on 2015/11/12 07:43:39: > > > > > >> From: Tom Fifield <tom(a)openstack.org> > > >> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN, Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> > > >> Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> > > >> Date: 2015/11/12 07:43 > > > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> Sorry, it took a while to work out how to disable the translations. > > >> That's been done now. > > >> > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> > > >> Tom > > >> > > >> On 11/11/15 18:09, Ying Chun Guo wrote: > > >> > I think we need to disable the translation at first. > > >> > Then we could be able to move them. > > >> > I'm not able to move, same as you. > > >> > > > >> > Best regards > > >> > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 14:40:43: > > >> > > > >> > > From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> > > >> > > To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN > > >> > > Cc: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi(a)gmail.com>, Openstack-i18n > <openstack- > > >> > > i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> > > >> > > Date: 2015/11/11 15:05 > > >> > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable > > >> > > > > >> > > Daisy, > > >> > > > > >> > > It sounds good to me, but normal users like me cannot move pages. > > >> > > I got Permission Error. Could you handle all moving of pages? > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > 2015-11-11 15:05 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: > > >> > > > Thank you for the explain Ian. > > >> > > > I think we could move the wiki pages for language teams to > > >> > > > /I18nTeam/team/<language-code>, > > >> > > > and then keep /I18nTeam/<language-code> for the translation > page of > > >> > > > I18nTeam. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > How do you think about it, Akihiro? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Best regards > > >> > > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi(a)gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 > 00:55:07: > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> From: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi(a)gmail.com> > > >> > > >> To: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>, Ying Chun > > >> > Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN > > >> > > >> Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> > > >> > > >> Date: 2015/11/11 00:55 > > >> > > >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Hello Akihiro, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Actually I suggested a translatable I18nTeam wiki page [1] for > > >> > Korean > > >> > > >> during last Tokyo Design Summit. > > >> > > >> After saying it, I found that there might be a problem in > Japanese > > >> > local > > >> > > >> team > > >> > > >> because Japanese language team already used /ja page, as you > > >> > mentioned and > > >> > > >> which would make conflict with translation functionality in > > >> > OpenStack > > >> > > >> wiki. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Let me first say why Korean translation page for I18nTeam is > > >> > needed and > > >> > > >> how Korean translation team wants to use two wiki pages > > >> > separately: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> 1) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ko > > >> > > >> : To provide Korean guys with official I18nTeam introduction > > >> > wiki page > > >> > > >> : I think "Local Translation Teams" section is needed > because > > >> > this > > >> > > >> information is > > >> > > >> beneficial with the knowledge of the various language team > > >> > activities. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> 2) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ko_KR > > >> > > >> (I found that Daisy moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR. > > >> > Thank you!) > > >> > > >> : To introduce Korean translation team with details and our > > >> > specific > > >> > > >> translation rules > > >> > > >> : Providing links for OpenStack I18n official > introduction wiki > > >> > page & > > >> > > >> its translation > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I would like to respect I18nTeam official wiki page, and this > > >> > > >> information is written in English. > > >> > > >> In my opinion, translating this page would more clearly > advertise > > >> > > >> OpenStack I18n overall activities to more Korean. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> This requirement and need might be different from various > local > > >> > > >> translation teams, I think, > > >> > > >> and I also would like to respect the ways Japanese team > used more > > >> > than 1 > > >> > > >> year. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> So I would like to suggest not to include "<languages />" > tag on > > >> > [1] . > > >> > > >> As you know, OpenStack Release Note wiki pages such as [2] > > >> > > >> contain "<languages />" tag and displays different language > > >> > translated > > >> > > >> pages on the top part. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I think this suggestion would satisfy different needs from > various > > >> > > >> language translation teams. > > >> > > >> However, if https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam page > includes > > >> > > >> "<languages />" tag, > > >> > > >> then it would not fit to not only Japanese translation > team, but > > >> > also > > >> > > >> other teams such as French, Polish and so on. > > >> > > >> For Korean translation team, our official page contains the > > >> > translated > > >> > > >> I18nTeam link so it would be okay. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I am not sure, but Daisy might already think so Daisy only > moved > > >> > from > > >> > > >> .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR, and > > >> > > >> did not include "<languages />" tag on [1] :) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> This is just my suggestion not to conflict with your team > and to > > >> > > >> accomplish our team requirement, > > >> > > >> and I would like to listen Daisy's opinion and other > language > > >> > teams' > > >> > > >> opinions. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam > > >> > > >> [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> With many thanks, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> /Ian > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Akihiro Motoki wrote on 11/10/2015 8:48 PM: > > >> > > >> > In addition, Japanese team maintains the original > contents which > > >> > > >> > are differ from the English version of I18nTeam page. > > >> > > >> > Before enabling translation for I18nTeam, I would like > to see a > > >> > solution > > >> > > >> > for language specific content. > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > 2015-11-10 20:45 GMT+09:00 Akihiro Motoki > <amotoki(a)gmail.com>: > > >> > > >> >> I noticed the existing language team page cannot be edited. > > >> > > >> >> For example, > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ja exists > > >> > from > > >> > > >> >> more than one year ago. > > >> > > >> >> After this change, we can no longer edit the original page. > > >> > > >> >> What should we do? > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> In addition, I18nTeam wiki page contains contents which > is not > > >> > > >> >> appropriate for translation, > > >> > > >> >> for example, "Local Translation Teams" section. > > >> > > >> >> As a local team coordinator, I don't like to display this > > >> > section in a > > >> > > >> >> translated version. > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> Thanks, > > >> > > >> >> Akihiro > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> 2015-11-10 18:11 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo > <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: > > >> > > >> >>> Hi, > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> As requested by Korean team, the wiki page of I18nTeam is > > >> > > >> translatable now. > > >> > > >> >>> If you want to translate this page into your own language, > > >> > > >> please go ahead. > > >> > > >> >>> Thank you. > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> Best regards > > >> > > >> >>> Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > > >> > > >> >>> Openstack-i18n mailing list > > >> > > >> >>> Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > >> > Openstack-i18n mailing list > > >> > > >> > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > >> > > >> > > > >> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> > > >> /Ian > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Openstack-i18n mailing list > > >> > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > >> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
by Akihiro Motoki 13 Nov '15

13 Nov '15

Hi Daisy, I move all team wiki pages to I18nTeam/team/xxxxx. In addition, I created a page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team which contains a list of language teams. Akihiro 2015-11-12 16:04 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: > Thank you Tom. > Sorry for the trouble. > I will move all the team wiki pages to different links. > > Best regards > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > Tom Fifield <tom(a)openstack.org> wrote on 2015/11/12 07:43:39: > >> From: Tom Fifield <tom(a)openstack.org> >> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN, Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> >> Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> >> Date: 2015/11/12 07:43 > > >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable >> >> Hi, >> >> Sorry, it took a while to work out how to disable the translations. >> That's been done now. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Tom >> >> On 11/11/15 18:09, Ying Chun Guo wrote: >> > I think we need to disable the translation at first. >> > Then we could be able to move them. >> > I'm not able to move, same as you. >> > >> > Best regards >> > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) >> > >> > >> > Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 14:40:43: >> > >> > > From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> >> > > To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN >> > > Cc: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi(a)gmail.com>, Openstack-i18n <openstack- >> > > i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> >> > > Date: 2015/11/11 15:05 >> > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable >> > > >> > > Daisy, >> > > >> > > It sounds good to me, but normal users like me cannot move pages. >> > > I got Permission Error. Could you handle all moving of pages? >> > > >> > > >> > > 2015-11-11 15:05 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: >> > > > Thank you for the explain Ian. >> > > > I think we could move the wiki pages for language teams to >> > > > /I18nTeam/team/<language-code>, >> > > > and then keep /I18nTeam/<language-code> for the translation page of >> > > > I18nTeam. >> > > > >> > > > How do you think about it, Akihiro? >> > > > >> > > > Best regards >> > > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi(a)gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 00:55:07: >> > > > >> > > >> From: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi(a)gmail.com> >> > > >> To: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>, Ying Chun >> > Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN >> > > >> Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> >> > > >> Date: 2015/11/11 00:55 >> > > >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> Hello Akihiro, >> > > >> >> > > >> Actually I suggested a translatable I18nTeam wiki page [1] for >> > Korean >> > > >> during last Tokyo Design Summit. >> > > >> After saying it, I found that there might be a problem in Japanese >> > local >> > > >> team >> > > >> because Japanese language team already used /ja page, as you >> > mentioned and >> > > >> which would make conflict with translation functionality in >> > OpenStack >> > > >> wiki. >> > > >> >> > > >> Let me first say why Korean translation page for I18nTeam is >> > needed and >> > > >> how Korean translation team wants to use two wiki pages >> > separately: >> > > >> >> > > >> 1) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ko >> > > >> : To provide Korean guys with official I18nTeam introduction >> > wiki page >> > > >> : I think "Local Translation Teams" section is needed because >> > this >> > > >> information is >> > > >> beneficial with the knowledge of the various language team >> > activities. >> > > >> >> > > >> 2) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ko_KR >> > > >> (I found that Daisy moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR. >> > Thank you!) >> > > >> : To introduce Korean translation team with details and our >> > specific >> > > >> translation rules >> > > >> : Providing links for OpenStack I18n official introduction wiki >> > page & >> > > >> its translation >> > > >> >> > > >> I would like to respect I18nTeam official wiki page, and this >> > > >> information is written in English. >> > > >> In my opinion, translating this page would more clearly advertise >> > > >> OpenStack I18n overall activities to more Korean. >> > > >> >> > > >> This requirement and need might be different from various local >> > > >> translation teams, I think, >> > > >> and I also would like to respect the ways Japanese team used more >> > than 1 >> > > >> year. >> > > >> >> > > >> So I would like to suggest not to include "<languages />" tag on >> > [1] . >> > > >> As you know, OpenStack Release Note wiki pages such as [2] >> > > >> contain "<languages />" tag and displays different language >> > translated >> > > >> pages on the top part. >> > > >> >> > > >> I think this suggestion would satisfy different needs from various >> > > >> language translation teams. >> > > >> However, if https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam page includes >> > > >> "<languages />" tag, >> > > >> then it would not fit to not only Japanese translation team, but >> > also >> > > >> other teams such as French, Polish and so on. >> > > >> For Korean translation team, our official page contains the >> > translated >> > > >> I18nTeam link so it would be okay. >> > > >> >> > > >> I am not sure, but Daisy might already think so Daisy only moved >> > from >> > > >> .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR, and >> > > >> did not include "<languages />" tag on [1] :) >> > > >> >> > > >> This is just my suggestion not to conflict with your team and to >> > > >> accomplish our team requirement, >> > > >> and I would like to listen Daisy's opinion and other language >> > teams' >> > > >> opinions. >> > > >> >> > > >> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam >> > > >> [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> With many thanks, >> > > >> >> > > >> /Ian >> > > >> >> > > >> Akihiro Motoki wrote on 11/10/2015 8:48 PM: >> > > >> > In addition, Japanese team maintains the original contents which >> > > >> > are differ from the English version of I18nTeam page. >> > > >> > Before enabling translation for I18nTeam, I would like to see a >> > solution >> > > >> > for language specific content. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > 2015-11-10 20:45 GMT+09:00 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>: >> > > >> >> I noticed the existing language team page cannot be edited. >> > > >> >> For example, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ja exists >> > from >> > > >> >> more than one year ago. >> > > >> >> After this change, we can no longer edit the original page. >> > > >> >> What should we do? >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, I18nTeam wiki page contains contents which is not >> > > >> >> appropriate for translation, >> > > >> >> for example, "Local Translation Teams" section. >> > > >> >> As a local team coordinator, I don't like to display this >> > section in a >> > > >> >> translated version. >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> Thanks, >> > > >> >> Akihiro >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> 2015-11-10 18:11 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: >> > > >> >>> Hi, >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> As requested by Korean team, the wiki page of I18nTeam is >> > > >> translatable now. >> > > >> >>> If you want to translate this page into your own language, >> > > >> please go ahead. >> > > >> >>> Thank you. >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> Best regards >> > > >> >>> Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> > > >> >>> Openstack-i18n mailing list >> > > >> >>> Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org >> > > >> >>> >> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > > >> > Openstack-i18n mailing list >> > > >> > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org >> > > >> > >> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n >> > > >> >> > > >> -- >> > > >> /Ian >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Openstack-i18n mailing list >> > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org >> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n >> > >> >

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What's Up, Doc? 13 November 2015
by Lana Brindley 12 Nov '15

12 Nov '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi everyone, Well, things are starting to ramp up again after Summit. This week, I've spent some time catching up with other PTLs, and also worked on the DocImpact spec. I've also implemented my plan to get the Speciality Team leads to provide content on their projects individually, so many thanks to them for replying with so much great info! == Progress towards Mitaka == 145 days to go! 100 bugs closed so far for this release. DocImpact * I've updated the spec and made contact with Infra to nut out the finer technical details: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/review-docimpact RST Conversions * Arch Guide ** https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/archguide-mitaka-r… ** Contact the Ops Guide Speciality team: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide * Ops Guide ** https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/ops-guide-rst ** Lana will reach out to O'Reilly to discuss the printed book before this work begins * Config Ref ** Contact the Config Ref Speciality team: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/ConfigRef * Virtual Machine Image Guide ** https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/image-guide-rst and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244598/ Reorganisations * Arch Guide ** https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/archguide-mitaka-r… ** Contact the Ops Guide Speciality team: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide * User Guides ** https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/user-guides-reorga… ** Contact the User Guide Speciality team: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/User_Guides Document openstack-doc-tools and reorganise index page * Thanks to Brian for volunteering to take this on! Horizon UX work * There's an interesting opportunity to improve the wording in Horizon, specifically around LBaaS, and also to develop a set of standards around the language used in the dashboard. If you're interested, let me know and I'll get you in contact with the right people. == Speciality Teams == '''HA Guide - Bogdan Dobrelya''' Created a poll to shift HA guide IRC meeting time (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-November/007830.ht…) Submitted a status for HA guide testing (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-October/007718.html) hoping to see more participants in testing. Trying to push few patches, and initiated related discussion: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225418/ and https://review.openstack.org/235893. Thinking on how to effectively collaborate with Adam Spiers and his Openstack HA initiative (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/079127.html) to benefit HA guide project as well. '''Installation Guide - Christian Berendt''' Moved the team meeting from Google Hangout to IRC (online at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Documentation_Install_Team_Meeting) we had our first team meeting on the IRC (http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docinstallteam/2015/docinstallteam.…) we discussed the inclusion of hypervisor specific appendixes, no consensus at the moment, really good progress on the Debian install guide, zigo is doing a good job. '''Networking Guide - Edgar Magana''' We have a new spec for OVN: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244367/ I am going to start pulling people into specific patches. '''Security Guide - Nathaniel Dillon''' We have added a new chapter on Manila and have completed the reworking of the case studies. '''User Guides - Joseph Robinson''' Our meeting format has changed from hangouts to IRC meetings, with the appropriate changes made to the meetbot script thanks to Brian. The mitaka specification: the priority at the moment is checking in with project docs liaisons to confirm what services are in scope, and then add a short statement to the specification outlining this scope. Responding to Cloud Admin Guide patches. Thanks to Andreas for the link. '''Ops and Arch Guides - Shilla Saebi''' The operations guide RST migration is on hold until we find out if we are going to move forward with docbook or RST. In the meantime we are looking to add content and update it. The architecture guide RST conversion is underway. The progress on chapters and pages can be checked via the wiki page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Migrate '''API Docs - Anne Gentle''' Russell Sim plans to revise the templates for developer.openstack.org landing page to better match docs.openstack.org. We'll also map out a plan for fairy-slipper and the WADL migration. Spec to be updated soon. '''Config Ref - Gauvain Pocentek''' The initial structure for the Config Reference RST migration is up, the automation tools are ready to handle RST tables generation, and a couple pages have already been converted. We're waiting for the liberty branching to start pushing more converted pages. '''Training labs - Pranav Salunke''' Added Kilo support, still under review but in final stages (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237061/) Halfway through adding KVM support, will probably need more time. Other small things like fixing readmes etc. Still pending to decide IRC meeting time. '''Training Guides - Matjaz Pancur''' Two new core reviewers: Kato Tomoyuki and Tim Freund. We also added a new policy for cores: current lead of Upstream training session (held before each Summit) is now part of the core team by function. '''Hyperviser Tuning Guide - Joe Topjian''' All data from the past etherpads have been compiled onto the wiki (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HypervisorTuningGuide) My goal right now is to translate the raw notes into something more readable. Once the page starts to resemble a readable guide, I'll try to rally others to join in. == Doc team meeting == We held the APAC docs meeting this week, you can read the minutes here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/MeetingLogs#2015-11-11 Next meetings: US: Wednesday 18 November, 14:00 UTC APAC: Wednesday 25 November, 00:30:00 UTC Please go ahead and add any agenda items to the meeting page here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_mee… - -- Keep on doc'ing! 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I18n Guide publication
by KATO Tomoyuki 12 Nov '15

12 Nov '15

Hi team, We have published the I18n Guide [1]. The more contents are coming. Also, your contribution is very welcome, feel free to send a patch. For details, see the blueprint [2] and patch review requests [3]. [1] http://docs.openstack.org/developer/i18n/ [2] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+spec/i18n-contributor-guide [3] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/i18n,n,z Thanks, KATO Tomoyuki

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Terminologies in repo
by Ying Chun Guo 12 Nov '15

12 Nov '15

Hello, team I have submitted a patch to our repo for review, containing all the terminologies and translations we made. https://review.openstack.org/244031 I want to discuss about how to handle these assets we made. Currently, I use a google doc to store the terms and the translations. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BRizUNhDLl_6NtsGconFkxsKUqAmEEGum9I… I want to move these assets to our repo. My plan is to use pot and po files to store the terms and the translations. Then create a project named as "terminology" in Zanata, and create auto jobs to manage the synchronization between i18n repo and Zanata. So the process to update terms are: - If a people wants to add a new term to the terminology, submit a patch to i18n repo to change the original term.pot file. - If a people want to update a translation of a term, go to Zanata to update the translation. Let me know your thoughts to my design. Thank you. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
by Akihiro Motoki 12 Nov '15

12 Nov '15

Daisy, It sounds good to me, but normal users like me cannot move pages. I got Permission Error. Could you handle all moving of pages? 2015-11-11 15:05 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: > Thank you for the explain Ian. > I think we could move the wiki pages for language teams to > /I18nTeam/team/<language-code>, > and then keep /I18nTeam/<language-code> for the translation page of > I18nTeam. > > How do you think about it, Akihiro? > > Best regards > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi(a)gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 00:55:07: > >> From: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi(a)gmail.com> >> To: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>, Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN >> Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> >> Date: 2015/11/11 00:55 >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable > > >> >> Hello Akihiro, >> >> Actually I suggested a translatable I18nTeam wiki page [1] for Korean >> during last Tokyo Design Summit. >> After saying it, I found that there might be a problem in Japanese local >> team >> because Japanese language team already used /ja page, as you mentioned and >> which would make conflict with translation functionality in OpenStack >> wiki. >> >> Let me first say why Korean translation page for I18nTeam is needed and >> how Korean translation team wants to use two wiki pages separately: >> >> 1) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ko >> : To provide Korean guys with official I18nTeam introduction wiki page >> : I think "Local Translation Teams" section is needed because this >> information is >> beneficial with the knowledge of the various language team activities. >> >> 2) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ko_KR >> (I found that Daisy moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR. Thank you!) >> : To introduce Korean translation team with details and our specific >> translation rules >> : Providing links for OpenStack I18n official introduction wiki page & >> its translation >> >> I would like to respect I18nTeam official wiki page, and this >> information is written in English. >> In my opinion, translating this page would more clearly advertise >> OpenStack I18n overall activities to more Korean. >> >> This requirement and need might be different from various local >> translation teams, I think, >> and I also would like to respect the ways Japanese team used more than 1 >> year. >> >> So I would like to suggest not to include "<languages />" tag on [1] . >> As you know, OpenStack Release Note wiki pages such as [2] >> contain "<languages />" tag and displays different language translated >> pages on the top part. >> >> I think this suggestion would satisfy different needs from various >> language translation teams. >> However, if https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam page includes >> "<languages />" tag, >> then it would not fit to not only Japanese translation team, but also >> other teams such as French, Polish and so on. >> For Korean translation team, our official page contains the translated >> I18nTeam link so it would be okay. >> >> I am not sure, but Daisy might already think so Daisy only moved from >> .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR, and >> did not include "<languages />" tag on [1] :) >> >> This is just my suggestion not to conflict with your team and to >> accomplish our team requirement, >> and I would like to listen Daisy's opinion and other language teams' >> opinions. >> >> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam >> [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty >> >> >> With many thanks, >> >> /Ian >> >> Akihiro Motoki wrote on 11/10/2015 8:48 PM: >> > In addition, Japanese team maintains the original contents which >> > are differ from the English version of I18nTeam page. >> > Before enabling translation for I18nTeam, I would like to see a solution >> > for language specific content. >> > >> > >> > 2015-11-10 20:45 GMT+09:00 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>: >> >> I noticed the existing language team page cannot be edited. >> >> For example, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ja exists from >> >> more than one year ago. >> >> After this change, we can no longer edit the original page. >> >> What should we do? >> >> >> >> In addition, I18nTeam wiki page contains contents which is not >> >> appropriate for translation, >> >> for example, "Local Translation Teams" section. >> >> As a local team coordinator, I don't like to display this section in a >> >> translated version. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Akihiro >> >> >> >> 2015-11-10 18:11 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> As requested by Korean team, the wiki page of I18nTeam is >> translatable now. >> >>> If you want to translate this page into your own language, >> please go ahead. >> >>> Thank you. >> >>> >> >>> Best regards >> >>> Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Openstack-i18n mailing list >> >>> Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org >> >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n >> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Openstack-i18n mailing list >> > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org >> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n >> >> -- >> /Ian >> >

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
by Ian Y. Choi 11 Nov '15

11 Nov '15

Thank you so much, Daisy and Akihiro! I also hope that everything runs so well. With many thanks, /Ian Ying Chun Guo wrote on 11/11/2015 4:09 PM: > > I think we need to disable the translation at first. > Then we could be able to move them. > I'm not able to move, same as you. > > Best regards > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 14:40:43: > > > From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> > > To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN > > Cc: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi(a)gmail.com>, Openstack-i18n <openstack- > > i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> > > Date: 2015/11/11 15:05 > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable > > > > Daisy, > > > > It sounds good to me, but normal users like me cannot move pages. > > I got Permission Error. Could you handle all moving of pages? > > > > > > 2015-11-11 15:05 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: > > > Thank you for the explain Ian. > > > I think we could move the wiki pages for language teams to > > > /I18nTeam/team/<language-code>, > > > and then keep /I18nTeam/<language-code> for the translation page of > > > I18nTeam. > > > > > > How do you think about it, Akihiro? > > > > > > Best regards > > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > > > > > > > "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi(a)gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 00:55:07: > > > > > >> From: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi(a)gmail.com> > > >> To: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>, Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN > > >> Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> > > >> Date: 2015/11/11 00:55 > > >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable > > > > > > > > >> > > >> Hello Akihiro, > > >> > > >> Actually I suggested a translatable I18nTeam wiki page [1] for Korean > > >> during last Tokyo Design Summit. > > >> After saying it, I found that there might be a problem in > Japanese local > > >> team > > >> because Japanese language team already used /ja page, as you > mentioned and > > >> which would make conflict with translation functionality in OpenStack > > >> wiki. > > >> > > >> Let me first say why Korean translation page for I18nTeam is > needed and > > >> how Korean translation team wants to use two wiki pages separately: > > >> > > >> 1) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ko > > >> : To provide Korean guys with official I18nTeam introduction > wiki page > > >> : I think "Local Translation Teams" section is needed because this > > >> information is > > >> beneficial with the knowledge of the various language team > activities. > > >> > > >> 2) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ko_KR > > >> (I found that Daisy moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR. > Thank you!) > > >> : To introduce Korean translation team with details and our > specific > > >> translation rules > > >> : Providing links for OpenStack I18n official introduction wiki > page & > > >> its translation > > >> > > >> I would like to respect I18nTeam official wiki page, and this > > >> information is written in English. > > >> In my opinion, translating this page would more clearly advertise > > >> OpenStack I18n overall activities to more Korean. > > >> > > >> This requirement and need might be different from various local > > >> translation teams, I think, > > >> and I also would like to respect the ways Japanese team used more > than 1 > > >> year. > > >> > > >> So I would like to suggest not to include "<languages />" tag on > [1] . > > >> As you know, OpenStack Release Note wiki pages such as [2] > > >> contain "<languages />" tag and displays different language > translated > > >> pages on the top part. > > >> > > >> I think this suggestion would satisfy different needs from various > > >> language translation teams. > > >> However, if https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam page includes > > >> "<languages />" tag, > > >> then it would not fit to not only Japanese translation team, but also > > >> other teams such as French, Polish and so on. > > >> For Korean translation team, our official page contains the > translated > > >> I18nTeam link so it would be okay. > > >> > > >> I am not sure, but Daisy might already think so Daisy only moved from > > >> .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR, and > > >> did not include "<languages />" tag on [1] :) > > >> > > >> This is just my suggestion not to conflict with your team and to > > >> accomplish our team requirement, > > >> and I would like to listen Daisy's opinion and other language > teams' > > >> opinions. > > >> > > >> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam > > >> [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty > > >> > > >> > > >> With many thanks, > > >> > > >> /Ian > > >> > > >> Akihiro Motoki wrote on 11/10/2015 8:48 PM: > > >> > In addition, Japanese team maintains the original contents which > > >> > are differ from the English version of I18nTeam page. > > >> > Before enabling translation for I18nTeam, I would like to see a > solution > > >> > for language specific content. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > 2015-11-10 20:45 GMT+09:00 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>: > > >> >> I noticed the existing language team page cannot be edited. > > >> >> For example, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ja > exists from > > >> >> more than one year ago. > > >> >> After this change, we can no longer edit the original page. > > >> >> What should we do? > > >> >> > > >> >> In addition, I18nTeam wiki page contains contents which is not > > >> >> appropriate for translation, > > >> >> for example, "Local Translation Teams" section. > > >> >> As a local team coordinator, I don't like to display this > section in a > > >> >> translated version. > > >> >> > > >> >> Thanks, > > >> >> Akihiro > > >> >> > > >> >> 2015-11-10 18:11 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: > > >> >>> Hi, > > >> >>> > > >> >>> As requested by Korean team, the wiki page of I18nTeam is > > >> translatable now. > > >> >>> If you want to translate this page into your own language, > > >> please go ahead. > > >> >>> Thank you. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Best regards > > >> >>> Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > > >> >>> Openstack-i18n mailing list > > >> >>> Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > >> >>> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > > >> >>> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Openstack-i18n mailing list > > >> > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > >> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > > >> > > >> -- > > >> /Ian > > >> > > > > > >

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