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I18n team meet up in Tokyo
by Ying Chun Guo 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

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What's Up, Doc? 三鷹 Summit Edition
by Lana Brindley 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

Hi everyone, Welcome to the Summit edition of the docs newsletter! Docs have had a wonderfully productive week here in Tokyo, and we've now established a plan for Mitaka. This newsletter covers the more important announcements, and the main points we want to hit in the next release. Karin has kindly written up the summary of the Design Summit sessions here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Mitaka-Docs-Meetup == Mitaka Goals == This is the list at the moment. There are more notes in the docs etherpads, and not everything has blueprints yet. * Switch API docs over to swagger http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/liberty/api-site.html (???) * Implement new docimpact plan: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/review-docimpact * RST Conversions: ** Arch Guide: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/archguide-mitaka-r… ** Ops Guide: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/ops-guide-rst (pending O'Reilly conversation) ** Config Ref * Reorganisations: ** Arch Guide: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/archguide-mitaka-r… ** Ops Guide: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/improve-ops-guide ** User Guides: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/user-guides-reorga… * Training ** Labs: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/training-labs ** Guides: Upstream University & 'core' component updates, EOL Upstream Wiki page. * First App Guide: testing & improvements * Reorganise the index page * Document the openstack-doc-tools == Speciality Team Changes == More detail on the Speciality Team wiki page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams * Install Guide is now with Christian Berendt * HA Guide is now with Bogdan Dobrelya * Networking Guide is now with Edgar Magana * New Hypervisor Tuning Guide team with Joe Topjian あなたの東京ありがとう! Lana Lana Brindley Technical Writer Rackspace Cloud Builders Australia

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dashboard translation check site
by KATO Tomoyuki 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

Hi, Elizabeth, Akihiro, Daisy Just a memorandum from the Summit session. We need share the operation process of Akihiro's personal dashboard translation check site before we prepare the our official check site. The check site is built with DevStack. Basic scripts for import and export tranlations are: https://github.com/amotoki/horizon-i18n-tools * need update from Transifex client to Zanata client Akihiro-san, please follow up and correct the details. Thanks, KATO Tomoyuki

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Request to join local Translation in thai language.
by sawangpong muadphet 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

Dear Team My name is Sawangpong Muadphet from Thailand. I would like to join the Local Translation Teams for Thailand. I am contribute on Openstack promotion in Thailand for 2 yrs. I do training openstack also. But thai language is not in the openstack yet. I do hope that Thai people will have more opportunity in openstack my transfix account: sawangpongm Sincerely yours Sawangpong Muadphet CEO www.itbakery.net <http://www.itbakery.net/> Thailand

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Call for Presentation Proposals for FUEL GILT Conference 2015!
by Rajesh Ranjan 24 Oct '15

24 Oct '15

FUEL GILT Conference is one of the largest events of FOSS language technology - Its challenges, solutions, best practices and its conventions. Due to some unavoidable reasons, we are a bit late in announcing CFP. We apologize for the same. We are late, but this time we have grand plan to celebrate the presence of our languages on new technology platform. Yes, we have a grand plan! Total three days for the event : 20,21 and 22 Nov 2015. So, save these dates on your calender! The host for the event and venue is - Tamil Virtual Academy (Erstwhile Tamil Virtual University), Anna University Campus, Gandhi Mandapam Road, Kottur, Chennai, Tamil Nadu. Thank you TVA. We are happy that, this time Mozilla Localisation Hackathon is being organised as a part of FUEL Gilt Conference 2015. We have FUEL Gilt Conference on 20th Nov and Mozilla l10n Hackthon on 21-22 Nov.However, the localization hackathon is open to the invited members only. If you are one of the localizers contributing to Mozilla, you may contact your locale leader to know more about it. This year Mozilla Corporation, Centre for Development of Advance Computing (C-DAC), Pune and Red Hat are the main organizers of the Conference. The event is being hosted at Tamil Virtual Academy and supported by Free Software Foundation Tamil Nadu. Thank you all for helping hand. Call for Presentation Proposal is open till Oct 31, 2015. Please send your proposal in required format mentioned on the page: http://fuelproject.org/gilt2015/index FUEL is growing only because of the support of volunteer communities world-wide and several well known organizations! The power of the event is the power of collaboration, the power of sharing, the power of volunteerism! Currently, More than 60 language communities are working with the FUEL Project. Since 2008, FUEL Project is consistently working with the different language communities to provide standard linguistic resources eg. Terminologies, style guides, assessment methods etc. to the world.Like last year, please collaborate and cooperate to make the event a huge success! For more details, please visit: http://fuelproject.org/gilt2015/index -- Rajesh Ranjan www.rajeshranjan.in @kajha <https://twitter.com/kajha> Developing a linguistic standard for language localization <http://www.livemint.com/Industry/zWJ1943VQmwABkZGmMTT2H/Developing-a-lingui…>

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Horizon problem in pt
by Andreas Jaeger 22 Oct '15

22 Oct '15

Looking at todays bot run for Horizon on stable/liberty - see https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/horizon-propose-translation-update-libert… - I noticed a failure writing pt file for openstack_dashboard/locale/django: 2015-10-20 06:36:20.057 | [INFO] Writing translation file in locale pt for document openstack_dashboard/locale/django 2015-10-20 06:36:20.536 | [ERROR] Operation failed: javax.xml.bind.UnmarshalException 2015-10-20 06:36:20.536 | - with linked exception: 2015-10-20 06:36:20.536 | [org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; lineNumber: 4; columnNumber: 357; An invalid XML character (Unicode: 0x8) was found in the element content of the document.] 2015-10-20 06:36:20.536 | 2015-10-20 06:36:20.536 | To retry from the last document, please set the following option(s): 2015-10-20 06:36:20.536 | 2015-10-20 06:36:20.536 | --from-doc "openstack_dashboard/locale/django" 2015-10-20 06:36:20.537 | Is there anybody to fix this, please? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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I18n contributors meetup in Tokyo
by Ying Chun Guo 21 Oct '15

21 Oct '15

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I18n sessions plan in Tokyo summit
by Ying Chun Guo 21 Oct '15

21 Oct '15

Hello, team I plan to have two I18n working sessions and a half day I18n contributors meet up in Tokyo summit. Here are the descriptions of the two working sessions. Working session #1. Time: 4:40pm - 5:20pm on Oct. 27, Tuesday Title: Review of the tool support in Liberty translations Abstract: We just moved to the new translation tool in Liberty. In this session, we will review how Liberty translation went with Zanata. We will collect issues/problems we met in Liberty translation, talk about how to improve in the future, and figure out the next steps. The agenda will be tracked here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-translation-tool-support Working session #2. Time: 5:30pm - 6:10pm on Oct. 27, Tuesday Title: How translation schedule fits the development schedule? Abstract: In Liberty, we redefined the string freeze, split into soft string freeze and hard string freeze. In this session, we will collect the feedback to translation schedule from both translators and developers, refine the definition of string freeze, and figure out a better translation schedule for next release. The agenda will be tracked here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-translation-schedule The time of i18n meet up is not decided yet. It's a kind of round table, and doesn't have title and abstract. People could join and raise any discussions/questions related with i18n/l10n/translation there. We will use this page to track the agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-i18n-meetup If you have any issues with these sessions, please let me know. Thank you. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Stable translations?
by Andreas Jaeger 19 Oct '15

19 Oct '15

We had a few days ago some IRC discussion on how to translate stable branches and wrote up the following: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Translations/Infrastructure#New_proposal Is that clear? Is it something we should try? Daisy, did you talk to the stable team yet? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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How is openstack-manuals/common-rst updated?
by Akihiro Motoki 17 Oct '15

17 Oct '15

Hi team, During translation of common-rst in Zanata, I found a bit odd entries in openstack-manuals/doc/common-rst/source/locale/common-rst.pot. When and how is openstack-manuals/common-rst updated? For example, we see the following in common-rst.pot: --- #: ../common/app_support.rst:3 msgid "Community support" msgstr "" #: ../common/app_support.rst:5 msgid "Community Support" msgstr "" ---- However, we actually have only the first entry in common-rst/*.rst: --- $ grep -r 'Community Support' doc/common-rst/*.rst $ grep -r 'Community support' doc/common-rst/*.rst doc/common-rst/app_support.rst:Community support --- If you look at app_support.rst, we have only the first one. Where does the second one come from? In tools/generatepot-rst.sh, processing on 'common-rst' is skipped. I wonder which script we update common-rst.pot. Thanks, Akihiro

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] [Openstack] OpenStack Kilo Release Note Translation
by Tom Fifield 17 Oct '15

17 Oct '15

Hi, I just clicked "Mark This Page for Translation", which should fix this, I think. """ The page ReleaseNotes/Kilo has been marked up for translation with 166 translation units. The page can now be translated. """ Regards, Tom On 01/05/15 10:40, Ray Sun wrote: > By the way, I found this in mediawiki translation plugin document: > > This page contains changes which are not marked for translation." if you > are not a translation administrator > > Best Regards > -- Ray > > On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Ray Sun <xiaoquqi(a)gmail.com > <mailto:xiaoquqi@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Stackers, > I try to translate OpenStack Kilo release note, but I don't think I > have permission to do that even if I added translation tag for it. > Any one who have that permission, please help. Thanks. > > Best Regards > -- Ray > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > Post to : openstack(a)lists.openstack.org > Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack >

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New translation plan is published
by Ying Chun Guo 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

Hello, team During the IRC meeting yesterday, the team decided to focus on "installation guide" translation in the next 3 months. The documents of "installation guide" is in the project "openstack-manuals". We will work with the master version, because the liberty version is not branched yet. When documentation team branches the stable-liberty, we will create the same version in Zanata and switch our translations there. The plan is published in the homepage of translate.openstack.org. BTW, I failed to set the hyperlink to doc "install-guide" directly. The hyperlink in the homepage will direct you to the project "openstack-manuals", not the doc. Then you have to select document "install-guide" from the list. Thank you. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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IRC meeting tomorrow
by Ying Chun Guo 14 Oct '15

14 Oct '15

Hi, team We will have our IRC meeting tomorrow in IRC channel #openstack-meeting at 1300 UTC on 15th October. I'm going to discuss following topics: Discussion: document translation plan Open discussions If you have topics, please propose here. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Fwd: [Bug 1505870] [NEW] 安装配置控制节点服务器 in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7, CentOS 7, and Fedora 20 的 OpenStack 安装手册 - Kilo
by Lana Brindley 14 Oct '15

14 Oct '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi i18n team, I noticed this bug in our queue today. Zhu Rong has been kind enough to help me with the translation. I understand that there's an issue in the Chinese version of the guide, which doesn't appear in the English version. Are you able to help? Thank you, Lana - -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [Bug 1505870] [NEW] 安装配置控制节点服务器 in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7, CentOS 7, and Fedora 20 的 OpenStack 安装手册 - Kilo Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 01:46:28 -0000 From: fangc <swjfc22(a)163.com> Reply-To: Bug 1505870 <1505870(a)bugs.launchpad.net> To: openstack(a)lanabrindley.com Public bug reported: 这个显示是kilo安装手册，但是在同步数据时参数仍然用的juno，这会在后续步骤中报错。 # su -s /bin/sh -c "neutron-db-manage --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf \ --config-file /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini upgrade juno" neutron juno应该改为kilo才可以，不然下一步就会出错，网络节点无法连接到控制节点。 - ----------------------------------- Built: 2015-03-30T21:27:48 08:00 git SHA: 3da25b5440ad6ef89618eb6ec20c8dc8f465d3c6 URL: http://docs.ocselected.org/openstack-manuals/kilo/install/rpm/content/neutr… source File: file:/media/develop/develop/openstack/openstack-manuals/generated/zh_CN/install-guide/section_neutron-controller-node.xml xml:id: neutron-controller-node ** Affects: openstack-manuals Importance: Undecided Status: New - -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to openstack-manuals. Matching subscriptions: Manuals Bugs, Openstack Manuals https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1505870 Title: 安装配置控制节点服务器 in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7, CentOS 7, and Fedora 20 的 OpenStack 安装手册 - Kilo Status in openstack-manuals: New Bug description: 这个显示是kilo安装手册，但是在同步数据时参数仍然用的juno，这会在后续步骤中报错。 # su -s /bin/sh -c "neutron-db-manage --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf \ --config-file /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini upgrade juno" neutron juno应该改为kilo才可以，不然下一步就会出错，网络节点无法连接到控制节点。 ----------------------------------- Built: 2015-03-30T21:27:48 08:00 git SHA: 3da25b5440ad6ef89618eb6ec20c8dc8f465d3c6 URL: http://docs.ocselected.org/openstack-manuals/kilo/install/rpm/content/neutr… source File: file:/media/develop/develop/openstack/openstack-manuals/generated/zh_CN/install-guide/section_neutron-controller-node.xml xml:id: neutron-controller-node To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1505870/+subscriptions -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWHcyeAAoJELppzVb4+KUyz9sH/2s20AHuYFX7IFoZJscAg1kS T9DTbrDdBay9LN7Z9QYgc/lSSnW6K7IzQSNOwlgHD1BvoAI2pW1AMuYrTuy69Yu4 h1Udn3f2j+e79U19qvqoOTpu/5QUiXwD+ySPHhUbVEkXg6jvrQmrYtwFyO8gSsb/ yWsBvuxVc1yqhsUnLm5/PG92Ijy/Jh5d5NxaR+LeUcDIGg8GL15CQczwEP2PZMAj zHvxYrhw10YMs+jhtHAfTPOTr1cv38KIuzpBeki7sQ9yz+Gb07/2Oy+Lm9/QzjKr oDvUr3XdERona8/Yq/fGPNb/ReKsC393vgtnxvYc+t9znoBMEYpLV8iDpq7Q5D4= =+JvA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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API Quick Start now RST
by Anne Gentle 13 Oct '15

13 Oct '15

Hi all, The API Quick Start migration change has landed and Andreas has been working on language builds for it: https://review.openstack.org/232937 https://review.openstack.org/232945 https://review.openstack.org/232950 It will build to developer.openstack.org/LANG/api-guide/quick-start. The goal is to also build developer.openstack.org/api-guide/compute -- one directory for each service, sourced from each project team's preferred location. I'm not sure that you need to prioritize the API Quick Start for translation, but wanted to let this list know. Thanks, Anne -- Anne Gentle Rackspace Principal Engineer www.justwriteclick.com

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Approved & rejected translations after versions merging
by Ying Chun Guo 13 Oct '15

13 Oct '15

Hi, A translation could be approved or rejected. This action is called translation review. A version merging is to copy all matching translated/approved translations from the source version to the target version. If there is an existing translated/approved translation, the newer translation will be used. After liberty translations are closed, we will merge translations from stable-liberty version to master version, and then open both stable-liberty version and master version to accept translations. I investigated whether translation review would be copied after version merging. Here are the results: The review result - "approve" will be copied to the target version, while the review result - "reject" will not. Only "rejecting" existing translations will not have the same translations rejected in master version. But "approving" existing translations will have the same translations approved in the master version. That means, if there are "rejected" translations in stable-liberty, it's better to input the correct translations. The investigation result is OK with me. If you have different opinions, please propose here. If you want to understand more about version merging, please let me know. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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[openstack-i18n], [openstack-infra][project-config] Glance metadef JSON files need i18n support.
by Okuma, Wayne 09 Oct '15

09 Oct '15

Hi All, Not sure if this email got through the last time I sent it, so sending it again. Sorry if I've created a duplicate. I have a blueprint that I need feedback/approval for Mitaka. Please review it at: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/metadefs-i18n-support https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229211/ Work for it is at: glance: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229690/ python-glanceclient: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231810/ project-config: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232304/ Thanks and Regards, Wayne Okuma

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[openstack-dev][glance]; [openstack-i18n]; [openstack-infra][project-config]; Glance metadefs JSON i18n support
by Okuma, Wayne 09 Oct '15

09 Oct '15

Hi All, I have a blueprint that I need feedback/approval for Mitaka. Please review it at: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/metadefs-i18n-support https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229211/ Work for it is at: glance: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229690/ python-glanceclient: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231810/ project-config: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232304/ Thanks and Regards, Wayne Okuma

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Survey results of translated materials in Japanese community
by Akihiro Motoki 09 Oct '15

09 Oct '15

Hi I18N team, In the last moment in Liberty cycle, many translations of server side projects were incorporated. I think many language teams need to decide their priorities among various resources in the next release. I would like to share the survey result on translated materials we made in Japan. We, Japanese community, made a rough survey on the interest in translated materials in OpenStack 5th birthday event in Japan (in July). It was done in a lightning talk and we roughly count the number of raised hands. We have >300 folks in the hall. The question is very simple: Do you want or use translated version of the following or use English version? The results are as follows. The numbers are percentage of interested folks. - Horizon : 70~80% - Documentations : 40~50% (as long as they are kept up-to-date) - CLI : <5% (7~8 of >300) - Log messages : 0 (I could not find raised hands) The following is my impression on priories in Japanese translations. - Horizon and documentations: should be prioritized. horizon first. - CLI: low priorities - log messages: Lowest priorities. - User visible messages from server projects: low priorities (though our survey didn't cover it). Note that it need to be prioritized if Horizon use these strings directly. This is just my impression, and other languages must have different priorities. Thanks, Akihiro

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What's Up, Doc? 9 Oct 2015
by Lana Brindley 08 Oct '15

08 Oct '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, We're hurtling head first to Liberty, with only about a week left to go. I've been working on Summit preparations, and making sure we're ready to go when the time hits. This week, I'm working on Release Notes, keeping an eye on the final Install Guide testing, and some other housekeeping tasks. This is my last docs newsletter before the Liberty release, although I'll endeavour to get a special Summit edition out as well. We will pick up regular meetings (and other tasks, like core team reviews) after the Summit. == Progress towards Liberty == 5 days to go! 601 bugs closed so far for this release. The main things that still need to be done before release: - - Testing, testing, testing: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/LibertyDocTesting - - Reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-ma… and https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-site,n,z - - Bug triage: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?search=Search&field.stat… == Release Notes == Can all PTLs and Cross-Project Liaisons please check the Release Notes page, and ensure they've included all the new features for their project here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty The best way to do this (I'm told) is to go through the blueprints created for Liberty. I will be editing these during the next few days, so please ensure you're up to date ASAP. Please contact me directly if you have any questions or problems. == Mitaka Summit Prep == Thank you to everyone who provided suggestions for Design Summit sessions. I've now mangled them into a draft schedule, which is available on Sched: http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/type/Documentation == Doc team meeting == The US meeting was held this week. The minutes are here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/MeetingLogs#2015-10-07 The next meetings will be the final meetings before the Liberty release: APAC: Wednesday 14 October, 00:30:00 UTC Please go ahead and add any agenda items to the meeting page here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_mee… - -- 東京でお会いしましょう Lana - -- Lana Brindley Technical Writer Rackspace Cloud Builders Australia http://lanabrindley.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJWF1vMAAoJELppzVb4+KUyjNAH/iWkObcXhsCagd/Ht6N5IjsY SRQ1+B9PDpRU1281VCmy0MfIRIGATCOOaSlpumEfpz8lIOnPmR/yXU/mKm6xJ55k gCRCXSdb0wGomn7b346b3kvfRD6AUanVfq/6LnQsP0c6XCH8graqPwB5LMT9ndVm 68n/bOm2KlHh1NHmlI40l7eKOUCL0J82VOgdyqrWup55kg4R96cc1wUFH7gbz0jf 5b7khgD/P6XTzD1dbJIigKMxy8cj49FMx4tsrxdZZxZds2NauoE5inteI7HOuZMH /iBf1SB1NbzFGSGH6upQVVZsxR0vKpq3WO/VwNTtlFZkjPrNDQXt0/n3wLv6REU= =aUM2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] Curious Strings
by Alex Eng 08 Oct '15

08 Oct '15

The first source string (all in single line) is from https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/master/doc/install-guid… . According to record in Zanata the second string (broken into 2 entries) is from /neutron-controller-install.rst:13, https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/master/doc/install-guid…, which is broken into 2 lines. Both pot files in github repo ( https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/master/doc/install-guid…) and the one uploaded to Zanata ( https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/openstack-manuals/master/doc…) is totally different. --------------------------------------------- Alex Eng Globalisation Tools Engineering DID: +61 3514 8262 <callto:+61+3514+8262> Mobile: +614 2335 3457 <callto:+614+2335+3457> Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd Level 1, 193 North Quay Brisbane 4000 Office: +61 7 3514 8100 <callto:+61+7+3514+8100> Fax: +61 7 3514 8199 <callto:+61+7+3514+8199> Website: www.redhat.com On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:41 AM, Douglas Fish <drfish(a)us.ibm.com> wrote: > Kato, Alex, > > This still seems like a bug to me. The POT file has this as a single > string that is written on two lines > > https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/master/doc/install-guid… > but Kato has shown that is it available in Zanata as two separate strings > to translate. > > In fact, it seems that it's also available as a proper string in Zanata. > This query shows 2 matches: > > https://translate.openstack.org/webtrans/translate?project=openstack-manual… > > > Use the database access client to connect to the database server as the ``root`` user: > > > - Resource ID: 6cfac5f7b0e6f238895e3dcc7ac03206 > - Message Context: > - Source Comment: > - Last Modified By: OpenStack Infra > - Last Modified Time: 09/09/15 11:55 > > which seems expected and proper, and > > Use the database access client to connect to the database server as the > > > - Resource ID: ca3fdc8a1c36bfac2c20fbad11897afb > - Message Context: > - Source Comment: > - Last Modified By: > - Last Modified Time: > > which is unexpected. I don't see anything in the POT file that corresponds > to the 2nd version. > Perhaps the bug is that items that used to be in the POT file but have > been removed remain in Zanata? > > Doug Fish > > > ----- Original message ----- > From: Alex Eng <aeng(a)redhat.com> > To: KATO Tomoyuki <tomo(a)dream.daynight.jp> > Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Curious Strings > Date: Tue, Oct 6, 2015 11:19 PM > > Hi Kato, > > According the source, the string is extracted from > https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/master/doc/install-guid…. > > > Its a markup syntax with the single quote. The source string has been in > this format since it first imported into Zanata. > > You can see the history for this file: > https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/commits/master/doc/install-g… > > > https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/commit/f22caf8bc349b6a6b97a7… > > > --------------------------------------------- > > Alex Eng > Globalisation Tools Engineering > DID: +61 3514 8262 <callto:+61+3514+8262> > Mobile: +614 2335 3457 <callto:+614+2335+3457> > > Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd > Level 1, 193 North Quay > Brisbane 4000 > Office: +61 7 3514 8100 <callto:+61+7+3514+8100> > Fax: +61 7 3514 8199 <callto:+61+7+3514+8199> > Website: www.redhat.com > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 1:53 PM, KATO Tomoyuki <tomo(a)dream.daynight.jp> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I encounter a curious situation. > The string [1] is separately displayed in Zanata [2]. > > #890 @Zanata > Use the database access client to connect to the database server as the > > #891 @Zanata > ``root`` user: > > This situation itself is very inconvinient for me to translate. > > Any thought? > Zanata bug???? > > [1] source message catalog: > > https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/master/doc/install-guid… > > [2] Zanata > openstack-manuals > install-guide > master > https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/openstack-manuals/master > > Thanks, > KATO Tomoyuki > > _______________________________________________ > Openstack-i18n mailing list > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > > _______________________________________________ > Openstack-i18n mailing list > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > > >

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] Liberty translations are closing
by Ying Chun Guo 08 Oct '15

08 Oct '15

Hello, team We have finished Liberty translations. Look at the achievements we have made within 1 month: * Horizon translations 12 language teams finished Horizon translations 100%. 13 languages will be shipped together with Liberty. They are: Chinese (China), Chinese (Taiwan), Czech, English (Australia), French, German, Japanese, Korean (South Korea), Polish (Poland), Portuguese (Brazil), Russian, Spanish and Turkish (Turkey). * Nova message translations 3 language teams finished the translations of nova.po 100%. They are: Chinese (China), Czech, and German. 12 language translations of Nova messages are more than 75% and will be imported into Liberty branch. * In total, we have translated more than 1 million words in 1 month. (The exact number is 1037k.) It's an amazing number. Congratulations for those language teams, and many thanks to the hard work of translators, reviewers and coordinators. We will conclude liberty translation from today. According to Andreas suggestion, I leave stable-liberty in open status. You could continue the improvement of stable-liberty versions. All your improvements will be imported into liberty branches and shipped with the liberty stable releases. As to the master versions, I have set them writable and merged the translations of stable-liberty versions into master versions. Both stable-liberty and master versions are open to accept translations now. Thank you again for your hard work. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM wrote on 10/05/2015 10:53:37 PM: > From: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM > To: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> > Date: 10/05/2015 10:53 PM > Subject: Liberty translations are closing > > Hello, team > > Liberty translations will be closed in 24 hours from now on. > After that, I will set stable-liberty "Read Only" for a few days, > in order to preserve time for development team to package them. > > I see zh-TW, fr, tr-TR have a very few words left in Horizon translations: > https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/horizon/stable-liberty. > Translation patches to Horizon and Heat still have unit test errors: > https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:stable/liberty > +topic:zanata/translations,n,z > > Translation teams have only 24 hours to clean up your work. > Please hurry up. > Thank you for the corporation. > > Best regards > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Curious Strings
by KATO Tomoyuki 07 Oct '15

07 Oct '15

Hi all, I encounter a curious situation. The string [1] is separately displayed in Zanata [2]. #890 @Zanata Use the database access client to connect to the database server as the #891 @Zanata ``root`` user: This situation itself is very inconvinient for me to translate. Any thought? Zanata bug???? [1] source message catalog: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/master/doc/install-guid… [2] Zanata > openstack-manuals > install-guide > master https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/openstack-manuals/master Thanks, KATO Tomoyuki

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Fwd: [OpenStack-docs] Import failure - Japanese Install Guide
by Andreas Jaeger 07 Oct '15

07 Oct '15

Sorry, send to wrong list... Andreas -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [OpenStack-docs] Import failure - Japanese Install Guide Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 08:51:24 +0200 From: Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.com> To: openstack-docs(a)lists.openstack.org <openstack-docs(a)lists.openstack.org> Today's translation import of openstack-manuals fails the testing: 2015-10-07 06:49:00.393 | ++ msgfmt --statistics -o /dev/null doc/install-guide/source/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/install-guide.po 2015-10-07 06:49:00.431 | + trans='doc/install-guide/source/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/install-guide.po:6685: '\''msgid'\'' and '\''msgstr'\'' entries do not both begin with '\''\n'\'' Could somebody from Japanese team check and fix this, please? This is similar to what we discussed with horizon, let's mark this as error in Zanata. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 _______________________________________________ OpenStack-docs mailing list OpenStack-docs(a)lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-docs

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"Warning: none, Errors: 1" from the difference of number of lines
by Ian Y. Choi 06 Oct '15

06 Oct '15

Hello, Sorry if I am asking an already discussed issue. I am now reviewing horizon > stable-liberty > Documents (ko-KR) > openstack_dashboard/locale/django before our freezing deadline, as Daisy mentioned. But I have found that some Korean strings still have an error with the following message like: "Not enough lines in translation (expected 4, found 3)". The main reason I think is that in our previous translation platform Transifex, truncating the last empty line was recommended as far as I remember. (If not, Transifex generated an error.) My question is: should we fix those error translated strings with same number of lines and same spaces? I think it would be ignored because when I see Chinese translation, there were the same type of error message for almost translated strings. (Screenshot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bvd098wsakpi192/Zanata_horizon_translation_exampl… ) And if this error would be negligible to us, are there some ways not to see this type of errors? I would like to copy an example sentence string in Zanata from Korean for my better explanation. <in English>(Translated from) === First, select which type of job that you want to run. This choice will determine which other steps are required === <in Korean>(Translated to) === 먼저, 실행하고자 하는 job 유형 을 선택합니다. 이 선택을 통해 필요로 하는 다른 과정들을 결정할 것입니다. === With many thanks, /Ian

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Liberty translations are closing
by Ying Chun Guo 06 Oct '15

06 Oct '15

Hello, team Liberty translations will be closed in 24 hours from now on. After that, I will set stable-liberty "Read Only" for a few days, in order to preserve time for development team to package them. I see zh-TW, fr, tr-TR have a very few words left in Horizon translations: https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/horizon/stable-liberty. Translation patches to Horizon and Heat still have unit test errors: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:stable/liberty+topic:za… Translation teams have only 24 hours to clean up your work. Please hurry up. Thank you for the corporation. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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API Quick Start
by Anne Gentle 05 Oct '15

05 Oct '15

Hi all, I've got a patch in progress to convert the "API Quick Start" from Docbook to RST: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217467/ Since it has quite a few translations completed, I want to make sure that converting that document is okay with the translators. So, is it okay to convert and build using RST instead of Docbook? Is the tooling available for files in the api-site repository? Thanks, Anne -- Anne Gentle Rackspace Principal Engineer www.justwriteclick.com

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What's Up, Doc? 2 October
by Lana Brindley 01 Oct '15

01 Oct '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, Welcome to October, which means: it's nearly release day! I've been brushing up on the release management tasks, and continued my housekeeping duties to make sure we're in shape. The next two weeks will be spent watching the Installation Guide pretty closely, and making sure we get it all tested and ready to ship. If you are looking for something to do this week, please treat Install Guide testing as your main priority from here until 15 October. Also, don't forget to vote in the TC election next week! == Progress towards Liberty == 12 days to go 534 bugs closed so far for this release. The main things that still need to be done as we hurtle towards release: * Testing, testing, testing: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/LibertyDocTesting * Reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack - -manuals,n,z and https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-site, n,z * Bug triage: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?search=Search&field.s tatus=New == Mitaka Summit Prep == Thank you to everyone who provided suggestions for Design Summit sessions. I've now mangled them into a draft schedule, which looks a little like this: Workrooms (Thursday AM): - - Docs toolchain/infra info session - - IA working session - Ops/Arch Guides & User Guides - - Doc Contributor Guide: new content addition - - API Docs Session Fishbowls (Thursday PM): - - The docs process, plus best practices - - Mitaka planning - deliverables for the next release Meetup (Friday AM): - - Contributors meetup. No agenda. We can assist with setting up devstack/working through the Install Guide during this session Once I have access to Cheddar and Sched, I'll get this allocated more accurately. In the meantime, feedback or questions are welcome. == Bug Triage Process == The core team have been noticing a lot of people trying to close bugs that haven't been triaged recently. It is very important that you have someone else confirm your bug before you go ahead and create a patch. Waiting just a little while for triage can save you (and our core team!) a lot of work, and makes sure we don't let wayward changes past the gate. If you're unsure about whether you need to wait or not, or if you're in a hurry to work on a bug, you can always ping one of the core team on IRC or on our mailing list. The core team members are listed here, and we're always happy to help you out with a bug or a patch: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-doc-core This is even more important than usual as we get closer to the Liberty release, so remember: If it's not triaged, don't fix it! == Doc team meeting == The APAC meeting was held this week. The minutes are here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/MeetingLogs#2015-09-30 The next meetings will be the final meetings before the Liberty release: US: Wednesday 7 October, 14:00:00 UTC APAC: Wednesday 14 October, 00:30:00 UTC Please go ahead and add any agenda items to the meeting page here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_ meeting - -- Remember, if you have content you would like to add to this newsletter, or you would like to be added to the distribution list, please email me directly at openstack(a)lanabrindley.com, or visit: https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation/WhatsUpDoc Keep on doc'ing! Lana - -- Lana Brindley Technical Writer Rackspace Cloud Builders Australia http://lanabrindley.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJWDgItAAoJELppzVb4+KUyvy4H/3J5Dg5Z2Rv5yHImXU7ZhY4U chAQQ8ZUTysKcKtShIvqWqiejOWUql0Y2L9cV+28P9A8NFjJ/meWAckjC+LQgl1X WrqDimHjtStkLTft0kbmsVN3HYDpdH9QJhLh0ut3YHieWy5DeFaKZGbnP5MrTwFi 7WPjWCChECyCx0olrsr8AoYtLu9wUjtX0rDFJTC/4T3kZ1wauUnkWeRVT4S2e09c mjpGf7xgkciRqOyFgACzL0dGYXFlQhPxrRAnGMMRjpGERTIkWzlptk5v/oF9rx4v 84B/Ni3eTH2O+uqmVuXzjesvzV27Yzhoq4UvN14SeN7cHJ43mTfVsPi9kUZYPGM= =aCzp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 1494819
by Douglas Fish 01 Oct '15

01 Oct '15

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Do your translations have English in them?
by Douglas Fish 01 Oct '15

01 Oct '15

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 1494819
by Ying Chun Guo 01 Oct '15

01 Oct '15

Hi, The new stable-liberty is created. The old stable-liberty was renamed to stable-libery-backup, and set as ReadOnly. Please verify if the bug is fixed. Thank you. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM wrote on 10/01/2015 09:58:15 AM: > From: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM@IBMUS > To: aj(a)suse.com > Cc: guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com, openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > Date: 10/01/2015 09:58 AM > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 1494819 > > I have examined the files in the russian-fix branch. They look > right. Also I've tested them and they appear to be working correctly > in Horizon. > > We'll need this in stable-liberty. It renders Horizon pretty broken > for Russian: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1494819 > > Doug Fish > > > > ----- Original message ----- > From: Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.com> > To: Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>, Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM@IBMUS > Cc: openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 1494819 > Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2015 7:19 AM > > On 2015-09-30 13:21, Ying Chun Guo wrote: > > Hi, Doug > > > > After testing, I figured out a best way which has the lowest impact. > > 1. Create Russian translation files with only the correct header and the > > pluralitiestranslation items. > > 2. Create a new version named as russian-fix > > 3. Upload the source files and the Russian translation files created in > > #1 to the version russian-fix > > 4. Merge the stable version with version russian-fix > > 5. Rename stable version to stable-old, and rename russian-fix to stable. > > > > You could verify if the issues are fixed in russian-fix ? > > https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/horizon/russian-fix > > Do we need this fix for stable-liberty branch as well? > > Let's move forward quickly here for the release, please, > > Andreas > -- > Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi > SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany > GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, > HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) > GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 >

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] IRC meeting tomorrow
by Ying Chun Guo 01 Oct '15

01 Oct '15

Sorry, guys. Today is my National Day. I had so a good time with my family that I forgot the meeting time. Thank you for take it over, Andreas. I will check how reviews merge when versions merge, and will response later. Many thanks for the attendees, and sorry again for my absence. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.com> wrote on 10/01/2015 04:34:18 PM: > From: Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.com> > To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN > Date: 10/01/2015 04:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] IRC meeting tomorrow > > On 2015-09-30 13:46, Ying Chun Guo wrote: > > Hello,team > > > > We will have the IRC meeting at UTC 0600 in the channel > > #openstack-meeting on October 1st. > > We could talk about the ongoing liberty translations: progress, > > importing, issues, and etc. > > If you have other topics, feel free to propose. > > > > Best regards > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > > Hi Daisy, > > we missed you today. Hope everything is fine with! > > I took the liberty to run it today, there were a couple of questions > regarding merging back, could you review those, please? > > http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2015/ > openstack_i18n_meeting.2015-10-01-08.10.log.html > > Andreas > -- > Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi > SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany > GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, > HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) > GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 >

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 1494819
by Ying Chun Guo 30 Sep '15

30 Sep '15

Hi, Doug After testing, I figured out a best way which has the lowest impact. 1. Create Russian translation files with only the correct header and the pluralities translation items. 2. Create a new version named as russian-fix 3. Upload the source files and the Russian translation files created in #1 to the version russian-fix 4. Merge the stable version with version russian-fix 5. Rename stable version to stable-old, and rename russian-fix to stable. You could verify if the issues are fixed in russian-fix ? https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/horizon/russian-fix Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM wrote on 09/24/2015 02:41:16 AM: > From: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM@IBMUS > To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN > Cc: ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org, openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > Date: 09/24/2015 02:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 1494819 > > I don't think these kinds of structural edits are available through > the Zanata UI (I'm not expert and welcome any correction) > > I don't have a script to automatically do the updates but I did > outline my plan in the bug description. To repeat here: > cd openstack_dashboard/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES > cp django.po django.po-tmp > grep -v msgstr.2. django.po-tmp > django.po > sed -i s/msgstr.3./msgstr[2]/ django.po > and edit the plurality function to be > "Plural-Forms: nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n" > "%10<=4 && (n%100<12 || n%100>14) ? 1 : 2);\n" > was my plan to fix the openstack_dashboard ... django.po file. This > is the only one that results in bad behavior in Horizon today. > > However, since this is such a difficult process I think we should > update all 4 Russian PO file while we are doing this: > openstack_dashboard/horizon and django.po/djangojs.po for each part. > > Daisy - I'm happy to help work through this, including testing out > our proposed files in Horizon. Do you want to schedule a time and > coordinate this through openstack-i18n or some meeting IRC channel? > > Doug > > ----- Original message ----- > From: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM > To: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM@IBMUS@IBMAU > Cc: ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org, openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 1494819 > Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2015 11:25 AM > > Thank you for looking into it, Illya. > I think we need to fix it, although the manually process might be a > little complex. > > I'm going to: > 1. Create a new version in Zanata > 2. Mark master as read only > 2. Pull the source files and the translation files. > 3. Change the pluralities settings in Russian translation files. > 4. Upload the source files and translation files to the new version. > 5. Check if the all things are right, change master version name to > "master-old", > and then change the new version name to "master" > > How do you want to update these pluralities then? By program ? Or manually ? > Is it possible to make the changes through Zanata UI, other than > uploading po files ? > > Best regards > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM wrote on 09/23/2015 04:38:19 AM: > > > From: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM@IBMUS > > To: ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org > > Cc: guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com, openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > Date: 09/23/2015 04:38 AM > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 1494819 > > > > Hi Ilya, > > > > Thanks for looking at this! Unfortunately having 4 pluralities > > confuses Horizon. I've tested out stripping one of the pluralities > > and restoring the expected Plural-forms definition (just like the > > one you linked) and it works great. > > > > I had hoped to just repair the PO files in this way and upload the > > corrected translations to Zanata. > > > > Unfortunately, I understand from Daisy's research that once a > > language/project has been created in Zanata in this way we cannot > > just upload a PO file with corrected pluralities . More > > investigation will be needed to understand the process to fix this. > > > > Doug > > > > > > ----- Original message ----- > > From: Ilya Alekseyev <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org> > > Sent by: ilya(a)phpcoder.ru > > To: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM@IBMUS > > Cc: Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>, "openstack- > > i18n(a)lists.openstack.org" <openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 1494819 > > Date: Tue, Sep 22, 2015 2:39 PM > > > > Hi Doug and Daisy! > > > > Looks like we have wrong pluralities in current release: > > in https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/ > > openstack_dashboard/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/django.po > > > > we have: > > "Plural-Forms: nplurals=4; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n" > > "%10<=4 && (n%100<12 || n%100>14) ? 1 : n%10==0 || (n%10>=5 && n% > 10<=9) || (n" > > "%100>=11 && n%100<=14)? 2 : 3);\n" > > > > but in previuos releses we have: > > "Plural-Forms: nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n% > > 10>=2 && n%10<=4 && (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2);\n" > > > > Last one is right for Russian. > > > > We can make translation in Zanata for 4 pluralities, but it can give > > in some cases bugs with wrong plural forms. > > > > Kind regards, > > Ilya Alekseyev. > > > > 2015-09-22 14:22 GMT+03:00 Douglas Fish <drfish(a)us.ibm.com>: > > Hi Daisy, > > > > I am certain this issue is caused by plural forms. The issue with > > missing menus is seen with the current 4 plural form translations; > > when I correct the PO file to have 3 forms Horizon properly > displaysthe menus. > > > > Doug > > > > > > ----- Original message ----- > > From: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM > > To: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM@IBMUS@IBMAU > > Cc: openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 1494819 > > Date: Tue, Sep 22, 2015 12:49 AM > > > > Hi, Doug > > > > We need to consider it carefully. > > > > After working with Zanata dev team, I got to understand: > > > > 1. Zanata has its own plural forms. If po file has its own plural > > form, Zanata will use that. > > Otherwise, Zanata will use its own plural form. Pluralforms in Zanata: > > nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 && > > (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2). > > So it looks like that OpenStack po files overrode the pluralforms in Zanata. > > > > 2. Zanata currently don't allow update of plural forms once the > > document has been uploaded to Zanata. > > Even with deletion of that source document and re-upload (in the > > same project-version, same doc name and same path), > > Zanata will still reuse the old pluralform. > > > > 3. If we want to update the pluralforms, we will need to do it in > > new project-version > > (don't use copy-from previous version function). > > > > I think we need to carefully design the steps to change pluralforms > > of Russian. > > At first, I want to confirm with you, are you sure this issue is > > caused by plural forms? > > > > Best regards > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > > > > Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM wrote on 2015/09/18 23:38:22: > > > > > From: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM@IBMUS > > > To: guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com > > > Cc: openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > > Date: 2015/09/18 23:38 > > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 1494819 > > > > > > Hi Daisy, > > > > > > Yes, I understand - I don't think I can even propose my branch > > > unless I am added as a translator by the Russian team. > > > > > > My proposal would include removing one plural form for > > > 4 messages in horizon django.po > > > 1 message in horizon djangojs.po > > > 144 messages in openstack_dashboard django.po > > > 0 messages in openstack_dashboard djangojs.po > > > plus the pluralization specification would be updated in all 4 files. > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > ----- Original message ----- > > > From: Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com> > > > To: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM@IBMUS > > > Cc: openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 1494819 > > > Date: Fri, Sep 18, 2015 3:25 AM > > > > > > Are there a lot of changes in your proposed po files ? > > > I'm still waiting for Russian team's response. > > > > > > Best regards > > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > > > > > > > "Douglas Fish" <drfish(a)us.ibm.com> wrote on 09/18/2015 05:37:07 AM: > > > > > > > From: "Douglas Fish" <drfish(a)us.ibm.com> > > > > To: openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > > > Date: 09/18/2015 05:38 AM > > > > Subject: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 1494819 > > > > > > > > Hi translation friends, > > > > > > > > I'd like to contribute 4 PO files for the Horizon Russian > > > > translation to correct the issue > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1494819 > > > > > > > > These uploads won't contain any new translations, but instead will > > > > be an adjustment to the PO files so they have 3 pluralities, which > > > is standard > > > > http://localization-guide.readthedocs.org/en/latest/l10n/ > pluralforms.html > > > > > > > > Specifically, I plan to remove the msgstr[2] translation from the > > > > files (because msgstr[2] is blank for many cases), rename the msgstr > > > > [3] translation to msgstr[2] and adjust the plurality specification to > > > > nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 && > > > > (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2); > > > > > > > > As discussed in the team meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ > > > > meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2015/openstack_i18n_meeting. > > > > 2015-09-17-13.00.log.html > > > > please create a Zanata branch so I can propose these corrections > > for review. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Doug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Openstack-i18n mailing list > > > > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Openstack-i18n mailing list > > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > >

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