September 2013 - OpenStack-I18n - lists.openstack.org

final push before Havanna RC1
by Ying Chun Guo 24 Sep '13

24 Sep '13

Hi, team With the hard work of translation team, we have 100% finished 6 languages translations. They are: Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Polish, English (Australia) and English (United Kingdom). Portuguese (Brazil) and French translations are finished 98% and 99%, almost reach the goal now. If you have time, please do a final check through the Horizon test website. Akihiro Motoki will import our translations to Horizon in these two days. Then we can broadcast our result to the whole openstack community with much proud! Thank you all for your hard work ! Regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Fwd: Horizon translation importing policy for Havana RC1
by Parag N(पराग़) 24 Sep '13

24 Sep '13

Hi, Looks like my initial reply was missed to mailing list hence forwarding this to list. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Hi all, I am totally new to this Openstack project but would like to provide my opinion. On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > We discussed the criteria of importing Horizon translation for Havana RC1 > and agreed that we will import only 100% translations at the last I18N > meeting. > > I have several questions to clarify. > What do you think? I would like to know opinions from I18N team? > > (1) What is 100% translated? > Does 100% mean that all **three** resources (Horizon, Horizon > JavaScript, > OpenStack Dashboard) are completed? > I think any project when get 100% translated status for all their po files in it, one can say that language is 100% supported. > (2) Do we remove translations not completed (<100%) from Horizon repo? > RC1 release is created from the repo. This means that if we don't > remove > them non-completed translations will be shipped in RC1. > I don't thing we should ignore the efforts of language translators by not including partial translations. At least I see that can be a start for localized user to get familiar with those translated strings in UI. But yes assessing the translation quality is a different topic here. > > (3) What should the language list of the user preference form be? > I believe the default language list is important. > - All 100% translated languages should be listed. > Some languages needs to be added. > - Non 100% translated languages should be removed or listed? > If so what is the criteria? Over 50% on Transifex? > Let all languages be listed there. If decision need to be taken for removal of partial translated languages then better remove all and have only 100% translated languages else list all. Regards, Parag Nemade

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Horizon translation importing policy for Havana RC1
by Akihiro Motoki 24 Sep '13

24 Sep '13

Hi all, We discussed the criteria of importing Horizon translation for Havana RC1 and agreed that we will import only 100% translations at the last I18N meeting. I have several questions to clarify. What do you think? I would like to know opinions from I18N team? (1) What is 100% translated? Does 100% mean that all **three** resources (Horizon, Horizon JavaScript, OpenStack Dashboard) are completed? (2) Do we remove translations not completed (<100%) from Horizon repo? RC1 release is created from the repo. This means that if we don't remove them non-completed translations will be shipped in RC1. (3) What should the language list of the user preference form be? I believe the default language list is important. - All 100% translated languages should be listed. Some languages needs to be added. - Non 100% translated languages should be removed or listed? If so what is the criteria? Over 50% on Transifex? I would like to take care of importing translation into Horizon repo as a Horizon core member. Thanks, Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>

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Log messages and translations
by Łukasz Jernaś 24 Sep '13

24 Sep '13

Hi, What's the policy on translating log messages in OpenStack? Especially the case of api/neutron.py (tried to find something on the wiki, but I may be wrong) IMHO they shouldn't be marked as translatable as usually that breaks stuff working on them and the general standard I've found on most of the projects that they aren't translated... Regards, -- Łukasz [DeeJay1] Jernaś

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] Horizon (arabic translation)
by kamélia BENCHEKROUN 21 Sep '13

21 Sep '13

Hi, Thank you for replying. Actually, my problem is that we write Arabic from right to left, and I don't know How I should translate sentences like: Unable to modify domain "%s". I have 2 possibilities: 1/ "s%" لا يمكن تعديل النطاق (accepted by transifex) 2/ "%s" لا يمكن تعديل النطاق (got error with transifex) I think that the second solution will work, but I need to test before going ahead with the translation. Regards, Kamélia. 2013/9/16 Tom Fifield <tom(a)openstack.org> > Hi, > > Thanks for the excellent question. > > Shall we perhaps take this discussion to the > OpenStack-Internationalisation mailing list: > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > > ? I think it would be more appropriate there. > > Regards, > > > Tom > > On 15/09/13 19:02, kamélia BENCHEKROUN wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a question about translating some sentences like: > > *ALLOW* %(from)s:%(to)s *from* %(group)s > > How should we translate them ? > > > > Regards, > > Kamélia. > > > > > > 2013/9/13 Yelu <yeluaiesec(a)gmail.com <mailto:yeluaiesec@gmail.com>> > > > > thank you Daisy~ > > we will work on it > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com > > <mailto:guoyingc@cn.ibm.com>> wrote: > > > > Thank you, Yelu. > > I think we need people to review the translations too. > > Run Dashboard in Chinese will be an easy way to find out the > > inappropriate translation. > > Here is a guideline: > > > https://github.com/OpenStack-I18n/Translation/wiki/HorizonI18nTest > > > > Regards > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > > Yelu <yeluaiesec(a)gmail.com <mailto:yeluaiesec@gmail.com>> wrote > > on 2013/09/13 13:41:27: > > > > > Yelu <yeluaiesec(a)gmail.com <mailto:yeluaiesec@gmail.com>> > > > 2013/09/13 13:41 > > > > > > To > > > > > > Shinobu Kinjo <shinobu.kinjo(a)oist.jp > > <mailto:shinobu.kinjo@oist.jp>>, > > > > > > cc > > > > > > OpenStack Mailing List <openstack(a)lists.openstack.org > > <mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org>>, > > > "community(a)lists.openstack.org > > <mailto:community@lists.openstack.org>" > > <community(a)lists.openstack.org > > <mailto:community@lists.openstack.org>> > > > > > > Subject > > > > > > Re: [Openstack] Translation Push - get the dashboard in your > > > language by Sep 24 > > > > > > > > > > hey Tom, > > > > > > Chinese version is 100% done, now it's under review > > > > > > I think it's gonna be a great way have a call on local SNS, in > > > China, I post a weibo > > > http://weibo.com/2153224205/A9fSFFNxh > > > and the efficiency shocked me! > > > > > > and I will follow up the other translation work also. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Shinobu Kinjo > > <shinobu.kinjo(a)oist.jp <mailto:shinobu.kinjo@oist.jp>> wrote: > > > Tom, > > > > > > I can be Japanese translator. > > > How can I join? > > > > > > -- Kinjo > > > > > > ---- > > > O I S T > > > Okinawa Institute of Science and Technology Graduate School > > > 1919-1 Tancha, Onna-son, Kunigami-gun > > > Okinawa, Japan 904-0495 > > > T: +81-98-966-2093 <tel:%2B81-98-966-2093> > > > M: +81-80-6800-6447 <tel:%2B81-80-6800-6447> > > > shinobu.kinjo(a)oist.jp <mailto:shinobu.kinjo@oist.jp> > > > www.oist.jp <http://www.oist.jp> > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > From: Tom Fifield [tom(a)openstack.org <mailto:tom@openstack.org > >] > > > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 17:16 > > > To: OpenStack Mailing List; community(a)lists.openstack.org > > <mailto:community@lists.openstack.org> > > > Subject: [Openstack] Translation Push - get the dashboard in > your > > > language by Sep 24 > > > > > > Do you write Spanish, Italian, Russian, German or Dutch? > > > > > > How about Portuguese? Indonesian? Arabic? Hindi? > > > > > > Actually, if you can write in any language other than English, > > you have > > > the ability to help get the OpenStack Dashboard into your > > language. > > > > > > Find your language on: > > > > > > https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/horizon/ > > > > > > and join the team. > > > > > > > > > It's actually a lot of fun, all done through an easy web > > interface. > > > > > > If we can get 100% completion in your language by September > > 24th, your > > > text will be included in the next release of OpenStack for > > thousands > > > around the world to see. > > > > > > So, why not get your friends together and make it happen? :) > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > from your friendly Internationalisation Team > > > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mailing list: > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > > > Post to : openstack(a)lists.openstack.org > > <mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org> > > > Unsubscribe : > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mailing list: > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > > > Post to : openstack(a)lists.openstack.org > > <mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org> > > > Unsubscribe : > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mailing list: > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > > > Post to : openstack(a)lists.openstack.org > > <mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org> > > > Unsubscribe : > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Community mailing list > > Community(a)lists.openstack.org <mailto:Community@lists.openstack.org> > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kamélia. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Community mailing list > > Community(a)lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > -- Kamélia.

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Horizon test website
by Ying Chun Guo 21 Sep '13

21 Sep '13

Hi, Akihiro Motoki has a live Horizon test website to check the translation strings. You can use it to verify your translations without installing your own Horizon. 1. Go to website: http://v157-7-133-23.myvps.jp:13580/ 2. Log in as: demo, password is "opstjpHavana" 3. Click "Setting" in the right top corner, and choose your own language. Then you can see the translated strings in your language are displayed. You can verify them. Enjoy your translation results! Many thanks for Akihiro Motoki! Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Strange source string on Transifex
by Akihiro Motoki 18 Sep '13

18 Sep '13

Hi all, I experienced a strange problem in Horizon translation on Transifex. "Horizon translations" has a string "Select a period of time to query its usage" in horizon/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/django.po. However I can't see the string and instead I see "Select a month of time to query its usage". The screenshot is here: http://i.imgur.com/pk1KNpA.png Does anyone see the same thing? (1) Open https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/horizon/ (2) Visit your language (3) Goto "Horizon - Horizon Translations" (4) Click the query form at upper left -> Specify "text: select" I am not sure what is the reason. One point I am afraid of is that English PO file in Horizon repository has the following (fuzzy) entry. It may cause this issue. Thanks, Akihiro The following are extracted from Horizon latest repository. horizon/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/django.po ----- #: templates/horizon/common/_usage_summary.html:5 #, fuzzy msgid "Select a period of time to query its usage" msgstr "Select a month to query its usage" ----- horizon/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/django.po ----- #: templates/horizon/common/_usage_summary.html:5 msgid "Select a period of time to query its usage" msgstr "使用量を確認する月を選択してください" ----- -- Akihiro MOTOKI <amotoki(a)gmail.com>

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I18n (translation) team meeting at 0000UTC this Thursday
by Ying Chun Guo 18 Sep '13

18 Sep '13

Hi, all We will have the I18n team meeting at 0000 UTC on Sep. 19th in the IRC channel #openstack-meeting. We will focus on the Horizon I18n in this meeting, and address below topics: Action items from the last meeting Horizon translation progress report The merging time and criteria of Horizon translations Design summit session proposals in I18n areas Open discussion We have made a good progress on Horizon I18n now. From the dashboard of Transifex, we can see 4 languages translations (Japanese, Simple Chinese, Portuguese (Brazil),English (Australia)) of Horizon are almost 100% completed, 5 languages translations (Korean, French, Polish, Spanish, and Traditional Chinese) are more than 50% completed. There are a big number of languages, e.g. Czech, Finnish, Spanish, Russian, Hungarian, and German, which have a good start now. We also ran the I18n test of Horizon and reported 12 bugs around I18n during the passed two weeks. Havana release will come soon. If we work together on a final sprint, we can make a good internationalized OpenStack Dashboard in this release. If you have interests or questions or problems around Horizon I18n, welcome to join the meeting. If the time is not appropriate for you, welcome to join the mailing list: openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org and discuss with I18n team. Our wiki is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam The Transifex website is here: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/horizon/ Welcome to join. Regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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IRC meeting this week
by Ying Chun Guo 17 Sep '13

17 Sep '13

Hi, I'm going to address below topics in the IRC meeting this week. * Horizon translation progress report * Merging time and criteria * Design summit session proposals in I18n areas The meeting time should be 0100 UTC this Thursday. I wonder if we can move it 1 hour earlier this time, because I have a conflict this week. That is: UTC 0000 Beijing 0800 Tokyo 0900 Melbourne 1000 San Francisco 1700 Guayaquil 1900 New York 2000 Sao Paulo 2100 Paris 0200 Bangalore 0530 If you want to attend the meeting and the time is not appropriate for you, please let me know. Thanks and regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Horizon I18n update
by Ying Chun Guo 16 Sep '13

16 Sep '13

Hi, team The strings of Horizon in Transifex have been updated. A new resource "OpenStack Dashboard Authentication" is added which includes the strings in the login page. Although the string frozen day was passed, there may be string updates in the future. I will have you noticed when the strings are updated. Based on the wiki page "https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Havana_Release_Schedule", Sep 26th is OpenStack RC1 day. So we will make Sep 24 as our deadline of translation work. We will look into Transifex to see which languages are 100% translated and ready to be merged. And then hope we can finish the merge with the help of Horizon team in 2 days. Thus our translations will be released together with RC1. I hope to pick out at least two languages and do the Horizon I18n test, in order to verify the strings in web UI are correctly displayed as its translation. The I18n test should be done as early as possible, in order to save enough time for developers to fix bugs if we can find any. I have written down the guidelines for Horizon I18n test. https://github.com/OpenStack-I18n/Translation/wiki/Horizon-I18n-Test If you are interested in that, if you want to see how Horizon run in your own language, you can try. And, Don't forget to report bugs if you find any. Feel free to discuss within the mailing list if you meet with problems or have questions. Regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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