Few Open Questions: Openstack vs Proprietary cloud stacks
List,
Very recently I came across a discussion with a banking corporation who are heavy users of VMware in all their Data Centre operations ..
They asked me a lot of questions in comparison with openstack vs other proprietary vendors (such as VMware. ).
As I am promoting OpenStack I need to clarify these questions raised by the organization.
I request your inputs for these queries .
1. Does OpenStack support Hyper Converged Infrastructure ? Or any HCI vendors already with OpenStack solutions? Please share the URL/link of case studies of OpenStack HCI. Any documentation/Reference to install openstack as HCI solution with supported H/W OEM details . I can try out ...
2. Is there any performance benchmark for openstack to compare with other such cloud stacks ( URL/reference links kindly share )
3. What is the market share of OpenStack all over the world ? ( If any statistics kindly share.) Any survey reports available how many large and medium organizations are using Openstack distributions for private/public cloud use in production ?
4. Does OpenStack new versions support VDI(Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) solutions out of the box.? pls give a reference link / url for the same.
5. What is the alternative for VROPS and VRA (including self service capabilities, Blueprint/Template based deployment) in OpenStack and any comparative study on the capabilities available. ( Please share inputs if any to refer. )
6. What is the alternative of VMWARE Network Insights and VMWARE CodeStream and Vrealize Loginsights in OpenStack ?
7. Any major capability available in VMware cloud stack for which alternative is not available in OpenStack out of the box ?
8. Tools to maintain multiple OpenStack Cluster, any concept of Supervisory cluster available
9. Who all are the large organizations who deployed OpenStack as their alternative over proprietary solutions(eg: VMware cloud and virtualization products ..)
10. Does OpenInfra Foundation also provide direct support For OpenStack Deployment ? If yes Kindly share the link / url where to contact /approach for paid support ? in case the clients need paid support ?
11. Regarding security of cloud environments /infrastructure, what are the USPs of OpenStack cloud security over other competing cloud middleware providers ? and the vulnerability handling model/mechanism in production ?
Thanks in advance for your invaluable inputs.
Each and every input from each member is valuable for me to showcase as solid proofs to defend and promote the openstack over proprietary market leaders.
Krish
Hi Krish,
I can answer a few of your questions in line.
On Jun 21, 2022, at 8:59 AM, KK CHN kkchn.in@gmail.com wrote:
List,
Very recently I came across a discussion with a banking corporation who are heavy users of VMware in all their Data Centre operations ..
They asked me a lot of questions in comparison with openstack vs other proprietary vendors (such as VMware. ).
As I am promoting OpenStack I need to clarify these questions raised by the organization.
I request your inputs for these queries .
- Does OpenStack support Hyper Converged Infrastructure ?
Or any HCI vendors already with OpenStack solutions? Please share the URL/link of case studies of OpenStack HCI. Any documentation/Reference to install openstack as HCI solution with supported H/W OEM details . I can try out ...
Is there any performance benchmark for openstack to compare with other such cloud stacks ( URL/reference links kindly share )
What is the market share of OpenStack all over the world ? ( If any statistics kindly share.)
Any survey reports available how many large and medium organizations are using Openstack distributions for private/public cloud use in production ?
There is not an exact report that shows OpenStack market share, but there are a lot of statistics about the growing footprint of OpenStack-powered clouds that we collect from the OpenStack user survey (openstack.org/user-survey).
- There are currently over 25 million compute cores of OpenStack in production - There are over 180 public cloud data centers running OpenStack - The market for OpenStack is over $7.7 billion USD (source: 451 Research, Market Monitor, Open Source Software, OpenStack 2019)
We are planning to publish a new report later this year highlighting the current landscape of OpenStack adoption. Since the survey is opt-in, it is not comprehensive of all OpenStack use cases, but it gives a pretty good picture of the evolution and maturity of deployments.
Does OpenStack new versions support VDI(Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) solutions out of the box.? pls give a reference link / url for the same.
What is the alternative for VROPS and VRA (including self service capabilities, Blueprint/Template based deployment) in OpenStack and any comparative study on the capabilities available. ( Please share inputs if any to refer. )
What is the alternative of VMWARE Network Insights and VMWARE CodeStream and Vrealize Loginsights in OpenStack ?
Any major capability available in VMware cloud stack for which alternative is not available in OpenStack out of the box ?
Tools to maintain multiple OpenStack Cluster, any concept of Supervisory cluster available
Who all are the large organizations who deployed OpenStack as their alternative over proprietary solutions(eg: VMware cloud and virtualization products ..)
Does OpenInfra Foundation also provide direct support For OpenStack Deployment ? If yes Kindly share the link / url where to contact /approach for paid support ? in case the clients need paid support ?
The OpenInfra Foundation doesn’t directly provide support, but we have an OpenStack Marketplace (openstack.org/marketplace) where we work with our members to highlight their OpenStack-powered products. This list is not comprehensive, but it’s a great directory of OpenStack-powered products.
- Regarding security of cloud environments /infrastructure, what are the USPs of OpenStack cloud security over other competing cloud middleware providers ? and the vulnerability handling model/mechanism in production ?
Thanks in advance for your invaluable inputs.
Each and every input from each member is valuable for me to showcase as solid proofs to defend and promote the openstack over proprietary market leaders.
Krish
Please let me know if you have any questions on any of the above resources / data points that I shared.
Allison
On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 5:36 PM Allison Price allison@openinfra.dev wrote:
Hi Krish,
I can answer a few of your questions in line.
On Jun 21, 2022, at 8:59 AM, KK CHN kkchn.in@gmail.com wrote:
List,
Very recently I came across a discussion with a banking corporation who are heavy users of VMware in all their Data Centre operations ..
They asked me a lot of questions in comparison with openstack vs other proprietary vendors (such as VMware. ).
As I am promoting OpenStack I need to clarify these questions raised by the organization.
I request your inputs for these queries .
- Does OpenStack support Hyper Converged Infrastructure ?
Or any HCI vendors already with OpenStack solutions? Please share the URL/link of case studies of OpenStack HCI. Any documentation/Reference to install openstack as HCI solution with supported H/W OEM details . I can try out ...
- Is there any performance benchmark for openstack to compare with other
such cloud stacks ( URL/reference links kindly share )
- What is the market share of OpenStack all over the world ? ( If any
statistics kindly share.) Any survey reports available how many large and medium organizations are using Openstack distributions for private/public cloud use in production ?
There is not an exact report that shows OpenStack market share, but there are a lot of statistics about the growing footprint of OpenStack-powered clouds that we collect from the OpenStack user survey ( openstack.org/user-survey).
- There are currently over 25 million compute cores of OpenStack in
production
- There are over 180 public cloud data centers running OpenStack
- The market for OpenStack is over $7.7 billion USD (source: 451 Research,
Market Monitor, Open Source Software, OpenStack 2019)
We are planning to publish a new report later this year highlighting the current landscape of OpenStack adoption. Since the survey is opt-in, it is not comprehensive of all OpenStack use cases, but it gives a pretty good picture of the evolution and maturity of deployments.
I suggest if possible while publishing this new report, it will be better if we can publish also in Gartner, Forrester etc., if this makes sense.
I heard about CERN one among the biggest Openstack deployments in the private cloud domain.
- Does OpenStack new versions support VDI(Virtual Desktop
Infrastructure) solutions out of the box.? pls give a reference link / url for the same.
- What is the alternative for VROPS and VRA (including self service
capabilities, Blueprint/Template based deployment) in OpenStack and any comparative study on the capabilities available. ( Please share inputs if any to refer. )
- What is the alternative of VMWARE Network Insights and VMWARE
CodeStream and Vrealize Loginsights in OpenStack ?
- Any major capability available in VMware cloud stack for which
alternative is not available in OpenStack out of the box ?
- Tools to maintain multiple OpenStack Cluster, any concept of
Supervisory cluster available
- Who all are the large organizations who deployed OpenStack as their
alternative over proprietary solutions(eg: VMware cloud and virtualization products ..)
- Does OpenInfra Foundation also provide direct support For OpenStack
Deployment ? If yes Kindly share the link / url where to contact /approach for paid support ? in case the clients need paid support ?
The OpenInfra Foundation doesn’t directly provide support, but we have an OpenStack Marketplace (openstack.org/marketplace) where we work with our members to highlight their OpenStack-powered products. This list is not comprehensive, but it’s a great directory of OpenStack-powered products.
- Regarding security of cloud environments /infrastructure, what are
the USPs of OpenStack cloud security over other competing cloud middleware providers ? and the vulnerability handling model/mechanism in production ?
Thanks in advance for your invaluable inputs.
Each and every input from each member is valuable for me to showcase as solid proofs to defend and promote the openstack over proprietary market leaders.
Krish
Please let me know if you have any questions on any of the above resources / data points that I shared.
Allison
On Jun 22, 2022, at 7:18 AM, KK CHN kkchn.in@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 5:36 PM Allison Price <allison@openinfra.dev mailto:allison@openinfra.dev> wrote: Hi Krish,
I can answer a few of your questions in line.
On Jun 21, 2022, at 8:59 AM, KK CHN <kkchn.in@gmail.com mailto:kkchn.in@gmail.com> wrote:
List,
Very recently I came across a discussion with a banking corporation who are heavy users of VMware in all their Data Centre operations ..
They asked me a lot of questions in comparison with openstack vs other proprietary vendors (such as VMware. ).
As I am promoting OpenStack I need to clarify these questions raised by the organization.
I request your inputs for these queries .
- Does OpenStack support Hyper Converged Infrastructure ?
Or any HCI vendors already with OpenStack solutions? Please share the URL/link of case studies of OpenStack HCI. Any documentation/Reference to install openstack as HCI solution with supported H/W OEM details . I can try out ...
Is there any performance benchmark for openstack to compare with other such cloud stacks ( URL/reference links kindly share )
What is the market share of OpenStack all over the world ? ( If any statistics kindly share.)
Any survey reports available how many large and medium organizations are using Openstack distributions for private/public cloud use in production ?
There is not an exact report that shows OpenStack market share, but there are a lot of statistics about the growing footprint of OpenStack-powered clouds that we collect from the OpenStack user survey (openstack.org/user-survey http://openstack.org/user-survey).
- There are currently over 25 million compute cores of OpenStack in production
- There are over 180 public cloud data centers running OpenStack
- The market for OpenStack is over $7.7 billion USD (source: 451 Research, Market Monitor, Open Source Software, OpenStack 2019)
We are planning to publish a new report later this year highlighting the current landscape of OpenStack adoption. Since the survey is opt-in, it is not comprehensive of all OpenStack use cases, but it gives a pretty good picture of the evolution and maturity of deployments.
I suggest if possible while publishing this new report, it will be better if we can publish also in Gartner, Forrester etc., if this makes sense.
We often brief analysts after the survey comes out, but given that they have their own research arms, it’s often not published there and doing a survey / report through them is very costly.
I heard about CERN one among the biggest Openstack deployments in the private cloud domain.
Yes, CERN is one of the largest OpenStack deployments (I think around 380,000 cores). We also have a few users who have over a million cores in production including Walmart, Workday, LINE, China Mobile, and Yahoo (4 million to be exact). Other large scale users include OVH, Bloomberg, Kakao, and T-Systems (among many more).
Does OpenStack new versions support VDI(Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) solutions out of the box.? pls give a reference link / url for the same.
What is the alternative for VROPS and VRA (including self service capabilities, Blueprint/Template based deployment) in OpenStack and any comparative study on the capabilities available. ( Please share inputs if any to refer. )
What is the alternative of VMWARE Network Insights and VMWARE CodeStream and Vrealize Loginsights in OpenStack ?
Any major capability available in VMware cloud stack for which alternative is not available in OpenStack out of the box ?
Tools to maintain multiple OpenStack Cluster, any concept of Supervisory cluster available
Who all are the large organizations who deployed OpenStack as their alternative over proprietary solutions(eg: VMware cloud and virtualization products ..)
Does OpenInfra Foundation also provide direct support For OpenStack Deployment ? If yes Kindly share the link / url where to contact /approach for paid support ? in case the clients need paid support ?
The OpenInfra Foundation doesn’t directly provide support, but we have an OpenStack Marketplace (openstack.org/marketplace http://openstack.org/marketplace) where we work with our members to highlight their OpenStack-powered products. This list is not comprehensive, but it’s a great directory of OpenStack-powered products.
- Regarding security of cloud environments /infrastructure, what are the USPs of OpenStack cloud security over other competing cloud middleware providers ? and the vulnerability handling model/mechanism in production ?
Thanks in advance for your invaluable inputs.
Each and every input from each member is valuable for me to showcase as solid proofs to defend and promote the openstack over proprietary market leaders.
Krish
Please let me know if you have any questions on any of the above resources / data points that I shared.
Allison
On 6/21/22 08:59, KK CHN wrote:
List,
Very recently I came across a discussion with a banking corporation who are heavy users of VMware in all their Data Centre operations ..
They asked me a lot of questions in comparison with openstack vs other proprietary vendors (such as VMware. ).
As I am promoting OpenStack I need to clarify these questions raised by the organization.
I request your inputs for these queries .
- Does OpenStack support Hyper Converged Infrastructure ?
Or any HCI vendors already with OpenStack solutions? Please share the URL/link of case studies of OpenStack HCI. Any documentation/Reference to install openstack as HCI solution with supported H/W OEM details . I can try out ...
OpenStack does, as you are free to deploy the way you want. However, from my point of view, this is a bad idea: it's hard to get guaranteed I/O if you mix Ceph OSD and compute roles.
- Does OpenStack new versions support VDI(Virtual Desktop
Infrastructure) solutions out of the box.? pls give a reference link / url for the same.
Yes. 2 ways to do it: give a full PCI device to your instance, or use virtualized GPU. Nova can do both.
- Tools to maintain multiple OpenStack Cluster
Yes.
any concept of Supervisory cluster available
I don't know what that is (and many of the VMWare concept you mentioned but I didn't quote).
I hope the above helps.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
On Tuesday 21 June 2022 09:45:35 AM (-04:00), Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 6/21/22 08:59, KK CHN wrote:
List, Very recently I came across a discussion with a banking corporation
who are heavy users of VMware in all their Data Centre operations ..
They asked me a lot of questions in comparison with openstack vs
other proprietary vendors (such as VMware. ).
As I am promoting OpenStack I need to clarify these questions raised
by the organization.
I request your inputs for these queries .
- Does OpenStack support Hyper Converged Infrastructure ?
Or any HCI vendors already with OpenStack solutions? Please share the
URL/link of case studies of OpenStack HCI.
Any documentation/Reference to install openstack as HCI solution
with supported H/W OEM details . I can try out ...
StarlingX - kubernetes/openstack-helm/ceph integrated into an installable iso..
OpenStack does, as you are free to deploy the way you want. However,
from my point of view, this is a bad idea: it's hard to get guaranteed I/O if you mix Ceph OSD and compute roles.
- Does OpenStack new versions support VDI(Virtual Desktop
Infrastructure) solutions out of the box.? pls give a reference link / url for the same.
Yes. 2 ways to do it: give a full PCI device to your instance, or use
virtualized GPU. Nova can do both.
- Tools to maintain multiple OpenStack Cluster
Yes.
any concept of Supervisory cluster available
I don't know what that is (and many of the VMWare concept you mentioned
but I didn't quote).
I hope the above helps.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
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