Sure Rico, We can cover that if we have time in the meeting or after the meeting. -gmann ---- On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 03:49:37 -0500 Rico Lin <ricolin@ricolky.com> wrote ----

Hi Ghanshyam If we have free time left from this week's meeting, I would like to suggest a new topic for `pain point elimination` [1].Would like to hear from TCs and everyone about if we can make it a goal or not. and how can we process it (goal or not). Or we can discuss it after meeting:)[1] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/pain-point-elimination

Rico LinOIF Individual Board of directors, OpenStack TC, Multi-arch SIG chair, Heat PTL, Senior Software Engineer@EasyStack

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:16 PM Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com> wrote: Hello Everyone,

Below is the agenda for Tomorrow's TC meeting schedule at 1500 UTC in #openstack-tc IRC channel.

-https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Next_Meeting

== Agenda for tomorrow's TC meeting ==

* Roll call

* Follow up on past action items

* Gate health check (dansmith/yoctozepto) ** http://paste.openstack.org/show/jD6kAP9tHk7PZr2nhv8h/

* Murano project health (gmann) ** http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-August/024120.ht...

* New project application: 'Venus' ** http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-January/019748.h... ** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/804824

* PTG Planning ** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-yoga-ptg

* Moving weekly meetings to video/voice calls. ** Example: https://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/fdio-meeting/2021/fd_io_csit_...

* Board informal Brainstorming sessions about "community health and resource management" ** http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2021-August/002998.html

* Open Reviews ** https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open

-gmann

---- On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:35:32 -0500 Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com> wrote ----

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Hello Everyone,

Technical Committee's next weekly meeting is scheduled for Aug 19th at 1500 UTC.

If you would like to add topics for discussion, please add them to the below wiki page by Wednesday, Aug 18th, at 2100 UTC.

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Next_Meeting

-gmann

---- On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 07:58:16 -0500 Brian Rosmaita <rosmaita.fossdev@gmail.com> wrote ----

On 8/18/21 11:56 PM, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:

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Hello Everyone,

Below is the agenda for Tomorrow's TC meeting schedule at 1500 UTC in #openstack-tc IRC channel.

[snip]

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* Moving weekly meetings to video/voice calls. ** Example: https://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/fdio-meeting/2021/fd_io_csit_...

Here's some feedback for the proposal. A year ago we started holding the last Cinder weekly meeting of each month in video + irc (the irc component for people with bad connections or who are more comfortable with written than spoken English) [0].

The meetings are recorded (you can find links on the meeting agenda [1] if you're interested). I haven't watched any of them, well, because I was there.

The point I want to make here is to compare the meeting logs from a video meeting [2] and the irc-only meeting the week before [3].

The video meeting logs are basically just a list of pointers into where the discussion happens, which is helpful, but you have to watch the recording. With the irc-only meeting logs, you have all the discussion in one place (though you get the sometimes strange interleaving of topics).

The video meetings are good from a team cohesion standpoint. People enjoy the interaction and getting to see each other once a month. But the logs aren't very helpful when I want to go back and check something real quickly to see if I remembered a discussion correctly. The other nice thing about the irc-only logs is that if someone misses a meeting, it takes way less than an hour to find out what happened.

I don't know about other people, but the way I keep up on the TC is reading Ghanshyam's excellent 5 minute summaries on the mailing list and looking at the meeting log if there's a topic where I want to get some more detail about the discussion.

Thanks again for the feedback, glad to hear that the summary email is helpful.

So, my suggestion is that if you want to do a video meeting, do it once a month, and that way you get the benefits of some video interaction, but the rest of us interested parties (which is basically the entire OpenStack community) aren't required to watch a video to find out how the discussion went.

+1, Thanks for sharing the experience which is helpful. In today TC meeting, we decided to try monthly video call and based on how it goes then we will formalize/ iterate it in PTG. -gmann

(Notice that I didn't say anything about voice calls. Those absolutely suck. Just my opinion.)

cheers, brian

[0] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-July/015879.html [1] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-xena-meetings [2] https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2021/cinder.2021-06-30-14.00.lo... [3] https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2021/cinder.2021-06-23-14.00.lo...