Re: [CINDER] Distributed storage alternatives
Hi guys, We use Dell EMC VxFlex OS, which in its current version allows for free use and commercial (in version 3.5 a licence is needed, but its perpetual). It's similar to Ceph but more geared towards scale and performance etc (it use to be called ScaleIO). Other than that, I know of a couple sites using SAN storage, but a lot of people just seem to use Ceph. Cheers, Burak ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:20:29 +0100 From: Ignazio Cassano <ignaziocassano@gmail.com> To: Alfredo De Luca <alfredo.deluca@gmail.com> Cc: openstack-discuss <openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [CINDER] Distributed storage alternatives Message-ID: <CAB7j8cXLQWh5fx-E9AveUEa6OncDwCL6BOGc-Pm2TX4FKwnUKg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello Alfredo, I think best opensource solution is ceph. As far as commercial solutions are concerned we are working with network appliance (netapp) and emc unity. Regards Ignazio Il Gio 13 Feb 2020, 13:48 Alfredo De Luca <alfredo.deluca@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Hi all. we 'd like to explore storage back end alternatives to CEPH for Openstack
I am aware of GlusterFS but what would you recommend for distributed storage like Ceph and specifically for block device provisioning? Of course must be:
1. *Reliable* 2. *Fast* 3. *Capable of good performance over WAN given a good network back end*
Both open source and commercial technologies and ideas are welcome.
Cheers
-- *Alfredo*
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Thanks Burak and Ignazio. Appreciate it On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:19 PM Burak Hoban <Burak.Hoban@iag.com.au> wrote:
Hi guys,
We use Dell EMC VxFlex OS, which in its current version allows for free use and commercial (in version 3.5 a licence is needed, but its perpetual). It's similar to Ceph but more geared towards scale and performance etc (it use to be called ScaleIO).
Other than that, I know of a couple sites using SAN storage, but a lot of people just seem to use Ceph.
Cheers,
Burak
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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:20:29 +0100 From: Ignazio Cassano <ignaziocassano@gmail.com> To: Alfredo De Luca <alfredo.deluca@gmail.com> Cc: openstack-discuss <openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [CINDER] Distributed storage alternatives Message-ID: < CAB7j8cXLQWh5fx-E9AveUEa6OncDwCL6BOGc-Pm2TX4FKwnUKg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hello Alfredo, I think best opensource solution is ceph. As far as commercial solutions are concerned we are working with network appliance (netapp) and emc unity. Regards Ignazio
Il Gio 13 Feb 2020, 13:48 Alfredo De Luca <alfredo.deluca@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Hi all. we 'd like to explore storage back end alternatives to CEPH for Openstack
I am aware of GlusterFS but what would you recommend for distributed storage like Ceph and specifically for block device provisioning? Of course must be:
1. *Reliable* 2. *Fast* 3. *Capable of good performance over WAN given a good network back end*
Both open source and commercial technologies and ideas are welcome.
Cheers
-- *Alfredo*
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I use local NVME storage for FortNebula. Its very fast, and for "cloudy" things I prefer availability of data to be above the infrastructure layer. I used to use Ceph for all things, but in my experience... if performance is a requirement, local storage is pretty hard to beat. I am in the process of moving the object store to ceph, and all seems to be well in terms of performance using ceph for that use case. On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 6:41 AM Alfredo De Luca <alfredo.deluca@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Burak and Ignazio. Appreciate it
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:19 PM Burak Hoban <Burak.Hoban@iag.com.au> wrote:
Hi guys,
We use Dell EMC VxFlex OS, which in its current version allows for free use and commercial (in version 3.5 a licence is needed, but its perpetual). It's similar to Ceph but more geared towards scale and performance etc (it use to be called ScaleIO).
Other than that, I know of a couple sites using SAN storage, but a lot of people just seem to use Ceph.
Cheers,
Burak
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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:20:29 +0100 From: Ignazio Cassano <ignaziocassano@gmail.com> To: Alfredo De Luca <alfredo.deluca@gmail.com> Cc: openstack-discuss <openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [CINDER] Distributed storage alternatives Message-ID: < CAB7j8cXLQWh5fx-E9AveUEa6OncDwCL6BOGc-Pm2TX4FKwnUKg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hello Alfredo, I think best opensource solution is ceph. As far as commercial solutions are concerned we are working with network appliance (netapp) and emc unity. Regards Ignazio
Il Gio 13 Feb 2020, 13:48 Alfredo De Luca <alfredo.deluca@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Hi all. we 'd like to explore storage back end alternatives to CEPH for Openstack
I am aware of GlusterFS but what would you recommend for distributed storage like Ceph and specifically for block device provisioning? Of course must be:
1. *Reliable* 2. *Fast* 3. *Capable of good performance over WAN given a good network back end*
Both open source and commercial technologies and ideas are welcome.
Cheers
-- *Alfredo*
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Hi Donny. thanks for your inputs. Appreciate it On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 7:16 AM Donny Davis <donny@fortnebula.com> wrote:
I use local NVME storage for FortNebula. Its very fast, and for "cloudy" things I prefer availability of data to be above the infrastructure layer. I used to use Ceph for all things, but in my experience... if performance is a requirement, local storage is pretty hard to beat. I am in the process of moving the object store to ceph, and all seems to be well in terms of performance using ceph for that use case.
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 6:41 AM Alfredo De Luca <alfredo.deluca@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Burak and Ignazio. Appreciate it
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:19 PM Burak Hoban <Burak.Hoban@iag.com.au> wrote:
Hi guys,
We use Dell EMC VxFlex OS, which in its current version allows for free use and commercial (in version 3.5 a licence is needed, but its perpetual). It's similar to Ceph but more geared towards scale and performance etc (it use to be called ScaleIO).
Other than that, I know of a couple sites using SAN storage, but a lot of people just seem to use Ceph.
Cheers,
Burak
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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:20:29 +0100 From: Ignazio Cassano <ignaziocassano@gmail.com> To: Alfredo De Luca <alfredo.deluca@gmail.com> Cc: openstack-discuss <openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [CINDER] Distributed storage alternatives Message-ID: < CAB7j8cXLQWh5fx-E9AveUEa6OncDwCL6BOGc-Pm2TX4FKwnUKg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hello Alfredo, I think best opensource solution is ceph. As far as commercial solutions are concerned we are working with network appliance (netapp) and emc unity. Regards Ignazio
Il Gio 13 Feb 2020, 13:48 Alfredo De Luca <alfredo.deluca@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Hi all. we 'd like to explore storage back end alternatives to CEPH for Openstack
I am aware of GlusterFS but what would you recommend for distributed storage like Ceph and specifically for block device provisioning? Of course must be:
1. *Reliable* 2. *Fast* 3. *Capable of good performance over WAN given a good network back end*
Both open source and commercial technologies and ideas are welcome.
Cheers
-- *Alfredo*
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Alfredo De Luca
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Burak Hoban
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Donny Davis