[all] CRITICAL: Upcoming changes to the OpenStack Community IRC this weekend
Greetings contributors & community members! With recent events, the Technical Committee held an emergency meeting today (Wednesday, May 26th, 2021) regarding Freenode IRC and what our decision would be [1]. Earlier in the week, the consensus amongst the TC was to gather more information from the individual projects, and make a decision from there[2]. With #rdo, #ubuntu, and #wikipedia having been hijacked, the consensus amongst the TC and the community members who were able to attend the meeting was to move away from Freenode as soon as possible. The TC agreed that this move away from Freenode needs to be a community-wide move to the same, new IRC network for all projects to avoid splintering of the community. As has been long-planned in the event of a contingency, we will be moving to OFTC. We recognize this is a contentious topic, and ultimately we seek to ensure community continuity before evolution to something beyond IRC, as many have expressed interest in doing via Mailing List discussions. At this point, we had to make a decision to solve the immediate problem in the simplest and most expedient way possible, so this is that announcement. We welcome continued discussion about future alternatives on the other threads. With this in mind, we suggest the following steps. Everyone: ======= 1. Do NOT change any channel topics to represent this change. This is likely to result in the channel being taken over by Freenode and will disrupt communications within our community. 2. Register your nicknames on OFTC [3][4] 3. Be *prepared* to join your channels on OFTC[4]. The OpenStack community channels have already been registered on OFTC and await you. 4. Continue to use Freenode for OpenStack discussions until the bots have been moved and the official cut-over takes place this coming weekend. We anticipate using OFTC starting Monday, May 31st. Projects/Project Leaders: ==================== 1. Projects should work to get a few volunteers to staff their project channels on Freenode, for the near future to help redirect people to OFTC. This should occur via private messages to avoid a ban. 2. Continue to hold project meetings on Freenode until the bots are enabled on OFTC. 3. Update project wikis/documentation with the new IRC network information. We ask that you consider referring to the central contributor guide[5]. 4. The TC is asking that projects take advantage of this time of change to consider moving project meetings from the #openstack-meeting* channels to their project channel. 5. Please avoid discussing the move to OFTC in Freenode channels as this may also trigger a takeover of the channel. We are working on getting our bots over to OFTC, and they will be moved over the weekend. Starting Monday May 31, the bots will be on OFTC. Communication regarding this migration will take place on OFTC[4] in #openstack-dev, and we're working on updating the contributor guide[5] to reflect this migration. Sincerely, The OpenStack TC and community leaders who came together to agree on a path forward. [1]: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-irc [2]: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/feedback-on-freenode [3]: https://www.oftc.net/Services/#register-your-account [4]: https://www.oftc.net/ [5]: https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/common/irc.html
Hello Everyone, Updates: As you might have seen in the Fungi email reply on service-discuss ML, all the bot and logging migration is complete now. * Now onwards every discussion or meeting now needs to be done on OFTC, not on Freenode. As you can see many projects PTL started sending email on their next meeting on OFTC, please do if you have not done yet. * I have started a new etherpad for tracking all the migration tasks (all action items we collected from Wed TC meeting.). Please plan the work needed from the project team side and mark the progress. - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-irc-migration-to-oftc -gmann ---- On Wed, 26 May 2021 12:19:26 -0500 Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com> wrote ----
Greetings contributors & community members!
With recent events, the Technical Committee held an emergency meeting today (Wednesday, May 26th, 2021) regarding Freenode IRC and what our decision would be [1]. Earlier in the week, the consensus amongst the TC was to gather more information from the individual projects, and make a decision from there[2]. With #rdo, #ubuntu, and #wikipedia having been hijacked, the consensus amongst the TC and the community members who were able to attend the meeting was to move away from Freenode as soon as possible. The TC agreed that this move away from Freenode needs to be a community-wide move to the same, new IRC network for all projects to avoid splintering of the community. As has been long-planned in the event of a contingency, we will be moving to OFTC.
We recognize this is a contentious topic, and ultimately we seek to ensure community continuity before evolution to something beyond IRC, as many have expressed interest in doing via Mailing List discussions. At this point, we had to make a decision to solve the immediate problem in the simplest and most expedient way possible, so this is that announcement. We welcome continued discussion about future alternatives on the other threads.
With this in mind, we suggest the following steps.
Everyone: ======= 1. Do NOT change any channel topics to represent this change. This is likely to result in the channel being taken over by Freenode and will disrupt communications within our community. 2. Register your nicknames on OFTC [3][4] 3. Be *prepared* to join your channels on OFTC[4]. The OpenStack community channels have already been registered on OFTC and await you. 4. Continue to use Freenode for OpenStack discussions until the bots have been moved and the official cut-over takes place this coming weekend. We anticipate using OFTC starting Monday, May 31st.
Projects/Project Leaders: ==================== 1. Projects should work to get a few volunteers to staff their project channels on Freenode, for the near future to help redirect people to OFTC. This should occur via private messages to avoid a ban. 2. Continue to hold project meetings on Freenode until the bots are enabled on OFTC. 3. Update project wikis/documentation with the new IRC network information. We ask that you consider referring to the central contributor guide[5]. 4. The TC is asking that projects take advantage of this time of change to consider moving project meetings from the #openstack-meeting* channels to their project channel. 5. Please avoid discussing the move to OFTC in Freenode channels as this may also trigger a takeover of the channel.
We are working on getting our bots over to OFTC, and they will be moved over the weekend. Starting Monday May 31, the bots will be on OFTC. Communication regarding this migration will take place on OFTC[4] in #openstack-dev, and we're working on updating the contributor guide[5] to reflect this migration.
Sincerely,
The OpenStack TC and community leaders who came together to agree on a path forward.
[1]: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-irc [2]: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/feedback-on-freenode [3]: https://www.oftc.net/Services/#register-your-account [4]: https://www.oftc.net/ [5]: https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/common/irc.html
---- On Mon, 31 May 2021 09:06:11 -0500 Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com> wrote ----
Hello Everyone,
Updates:
As you might have seen in the Fungi email reply on service-discuss ML, all the bot and logging migration is complete now.
* Now onwards every discussion or meeting now needs to be done on OFTC, not on Freenode. As you can see many projects PTL started sending email on their next meeting on OFTC, please do if you have not done yet.
* I have started a new etherpad for tracking all the migration tasks (all action items we collected from Wed TC meeting.). Please plan the work needed from the project team side and mark the progress.
- https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-irc-migration-to-oftc
Hello Everyone, There were two question in openstack-tc this morning which we discussed in today TC meeting and agreed on below points: 1. Backporting OFTC reference changes * Agreed to backport the changes as much as possible. * On keeping doc/source/contributor/contributing.rst on stable branches: ** We do not need to maintain this on stable as such, because master version of it can be referred from doc or top level CONTRIBUTING.rst ** Fungi will add the global redirect link to master/latest version in openstack-manual. Project does not need to do this explicitly. ** Project can remove doc/source/contributor/contributing.rst from stable branch as per their convenience 2. Topic change on Freenode channel * We decided to do this on June 11th and until then continue redirecting people from old channel to OFTC. -gmann
-gmann
---- On Wed, 26 May 2021 12:19:26 -0500 Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com> wrote ----
Greetings contributors & community members!
With recent events, the Technical Committee held an emergency meeting today (Wednesday, May 26th, 2021) regarding Freenode IRC and what our decision would be [1]. Earlier in the week, the consensus amongst the TC was to gather more information from the individual projects, and make a decision from there[2]. With #rdo, #ubuntu, and #wikipedia having been hijacked, the consensus amongst the TC and the community members who were able to attend the meeting was to move away from Freenode as soon as possible. The TC agreed that this move away from Freenode needs to be a community-wide move to the same, new IRC network for all projects to avoid splintering of the community. As has been long-planned in the event of a contingency, we will be moving to OFTC.
We recognize this is a contentious topic, and ultimately we seek to ensure community continuity before evolution to something beyond IRC, as many have expressed interest in doing via Mailing List discussions. At this point, we had to make a decision to solve the immediate problem in the simplest and most expedient way possible, so this is that announcement. We welcome continued discussion about future alternatives on the other threads.
With this in mind, we suggest the following steps.
Everyone: ======= 1. Do NOT change any channel topics to represent this change. This is likely to result in the channel being taken over by Freenode and will disrupt communications within our community. 2. Register your nicknames on OFTC [3][4] 3. Be *prepared* to join your channels on OFTC[4]. The OpenStack community channels have already been registered on OFTC and await you. 4. Continue to use Freenode for OpenStack discussions until the bots have been moved and the official cut-over takes place this coming weekend. We anticipate using OFTC starting Monday, May 31st.
Projects/Project Leaders: ==================== 1. Projects should work to get a few volunteers to staff their project channels on Freenode, for the near future to help redirect people to OFTC. This should occur via private messages to avoid a ban. 2. Continue to hold project meetings on Freenode until the bots are enabled on OFTC. 3. Update project wikis/documentation with the new IRC network information. We ask that you consider referring to the central contributor guide[5]. 4. The TC is asking that projects take advantage of this time of change to consider moving project meetings from the #openstack-meeting* channels to their project channel. 5. Please avoid discussing the move to OFTC in Freenode channels as this may also trigger a takeover of the channel.
We are working on getting our bots over to OFTC, and they will be moved over the weekend. Starting Monday May 31, the bots will be on OFTC. Communication regarding this migration will take place on OFTC[4] in #openstack-dev, and we're working on updating the contributor guide[5] to reflect this migration.
Sincerely,
The OpenStack TC and community leaders who came together to agree on a path forward.
[1]: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-irc [2]: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/feedback-on-freenode [3]: https://www.oftc.net/Services/#register-your-account [4]: https://www.oftc.net/ [5]: https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/common/irc.html
On 2021-06-03 17:39:23 -0500 (-0500), Ghanshyam Mann wrote: [...]
Fungi will add the global redirect link to master/latest version in openstack-manual. Project does not need to do this explicitly. [...]
Proposed now as https://review.opendev.org/794874 if anyone feels up for reviewing it. -- Jeremy Stanley
On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 1:34 AM Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> wrote:
On 2021-06-03 17:39:23 -0500 (-0500), Ghanshyam Mann wrote: [...]
Fungi will add the global redirect link to master/latest version in openstack-manual. Project does not need to do this explicitly. [...]
Proposed now as https://review.opendev.org/794874 if anyone feels up for reviewing it.
It's going in! -yoctozepto
On 2021-06-05 09:18:18 +0200 (+0200), Radosław Piliszek wrote:
On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 1:34 AM Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> wrote:
On 2021-06-03 17:39:23 -0500 (-0500), Ghanshyam Mann wrote: [...]
Fungi will add the global redirect link to master/latest version in openstack-manual. Project does not need to do this explicitly. [...]
Proposed now as https://review.opendev.org/794874 if anyone feels up for reviewing it.
It's going in!
And some quick spot-checks indicate it's deployed and working as intended. Let me know if anyone notices any issues with it. -- Jeremy Stanley
---- On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 17:39:23 -0500 Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com> wrote ----
---- On Mon, 31 May 2021 09:06:11 -0500 Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com> wrote ----
Hello Everyone,
Updates:
As you might have seen in the Fungi email reply on service-discuss ML, all the bot and logging migration is complete now.
* Now onwards every discussion or meeting now needs to be done on OFTC, not on Freenode. As you can see many projects PTL started sending email on their next meeting on OFTC, please do if you have not done yet.
* I have started a new etherpad for tracking all the migration tasks (all action items we collected from Wed TC meeting.). Please plan the work needed from the project team side and mark the progress.
- https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-irc-migration-to-oftc
A gentle reminder to the project teams if you have not updated your project doc/wiki pages yet or mark it complete in etherpad if work is done. Projects need action: * Adjutant * Barbican * Cloudkitty * Cyborg * Freezer * Keystone * Mistral * Murano * Octavia * Openstack Charms * Openstack-Chef * Openstack-Helm * Oslo * Rally * Release Management * Requirements * Sahara * Senlin * Solum * Swift * Tripleo * Vitrage * Watcher * Winstackers * Zun -gmann
Hello Everyone,
There were two question in openstack-tc this morning which we discussed in today TC meeting and agreed on below points:
1. Backporting OFTC reference changes
* Agreed to backport the changes as much as possible. * On keeping doc/source/contributor/contributing.rst on stable branches: ** We do not need to maintain this on stable as such, because master version of it can be referred from doc or top level CONTRIBUTING.rst ** Fungi will add the global redirect link to master/latest version in openstack-manual. Project does not need to do this explicitly. ** Project can remove doc/source/contributor/contributing.rst from stable branch as per their convenience
2. Topic change on Freenode channel * We decided to do this on June 11th and until then continue redirecting people from old channel to OFTC.
-gmann
-gmann
---- On Wed, 26 May 2021 12:19:26 -0500 Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com> wrote ----
Greetings contributors & community members!
With recent events, the Technical Committee held an emergency meeting today (Wednesday, May 26th, 2021) regarding Freenode IRC and what our decision would be [1]. Earlier in the week, the consensus amongst the TC was to gather more information from the individual projects, and make a decision from there[2]. With #rdo, #ubuntu, and #wikipedia having been hijacked, the consensus amongst the TC and the community members who were able to attend the meeting was to move away from Freenode as soon as possible. The TC agreed that this move away from Freenode needs to be a community-wide move to the same, new IRC network for all projects to avoid splintering of the community. As has been long-planned in the event of a contingency, we will be moving to OFTC.
We recognize this is a contentious topic, and ultimately we seek to ensure community continuity before evolution to something beyond IRC, as many have expressed interest in doing via Mailing List discussions. At this point, we had to make a decision to solve the immediate problem in the simplest and most expedient way possible, so this is that announcement. We welcome continued discussion about future alternatives on the other threads.
With this in mind, we suggest the following steps.
Everyone: ======= 1. Do NOT change any channel topics to represent this change. This is likely to result in the channel being taken over by Freenode and will disrupt communications within our community. 2. Register your nicknames on OFTC [3][4] 3. Be *prepared* to join your channels on OFTC[4]. The OpenStack community channels have already been registered on OFTC and await you. 4. Continue to use Freenode for OpenStack discussions until the bots have been moved and the official cut-over takes place this coming weekend. We anticipate using OFTC starting Monday, May 31st.
Projects/Project Leaders: ==================== 1. Projects should work to get a few volunteers to staff their project channels on Freenode, for the near future to help redirect people to OFTC. This should occur via private messages to avoid a ban. 2. Continue to hold project meetings on Freenode until the bots are enabled on OFTC. 3. Update project wikis/documentation with the new IRC network information. We ask that you consider referring to the central contributor guide[5]. 4. The TC is asking that projects take advantage of this time of change to consider moving project meetings from the #openstack-meeting* channels to their project channel. 5. Please avoid discussing the move to OFTC in Freenode channels as this may also trigger a takeover of the channel.
We are working on getting our bots over to OFTC, and they will be moved over the weekend. Starting Monday May 31, the bots will be on OFTC. Communication regarding this migration will take place on OFTC[4] in #openstack-dev, and we're working on updating the contributor guide[5] to reflect this migration.
Sincerely,
The OpenStack TC and community leaders who came together to agree on a path forward.
[1]: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-irc [2]: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/feedback-on-freenode [3]: https://www.oftc.net/Services/#register-your-account [4]: https://www.oftc.net/ [5]: https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/common/irc.html
participants (3)
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Ghanshyam Mann
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Jeremy Stanley
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Radosław Piliszek