Hi everyone. For quite sometime, there has been work on an effort of moving forward with building 'constellations' however this effort has stalled out for a few months since. It looks like we've tried a few times to get this document done https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180112/ [3y9m ago, creating compute starter kit, by sdague] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565466/ [7m ago, draft for scientific computing but in `governance`] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586212/3 [6m ago, draft for compute starter constillation, by dims] Do we want to continue this effort (do we see value in it right now)? Does the community find it a useful document to publish and does anyone feel like they can pick it up? Thanks, Mohammed
Mohammed Naser wrote:
Hi everyone.
For quite sometime, there has been work on an effort of moving forward with building 'constellations' however this effort has stalled out for a few months since. It looks like we've tried a few times to get this document done
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180112/ [3y9m ago, creating compute starter kit, by sdague] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565466/ [7m ago, draft for scientific computing but in `governance`] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586212/3 [6m ago, draft for compute starter constillation, by dims]
Do we want to continue this effort (do we see value in it right now)? Does the community find it a useful document to publish and does anyone feel like they can pick it up?
There doesn't seem to be much momentum around that. Here is a bit more context to kickstart the discussion: Here is the part of the "2019 TC vision" that describes constellations: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20170404-vision-2019.html#na... As I see it, there were two key goals in there. First is to get the TC (and contributors in general) to wear more of a product manager hat and be more involved in defining common groups of OpenStack components matching a use case. The other is to expose those constructs more widely than just on the marketing website -- make them first-level objects that users interact with (in particular in documentation). -- Thierry Carrez (ttx)
On 3/11/19 10:44 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Mohammed Naser wrote:
Hi everyone.
For quite sometime, there has been work on an effort of moving forward with building 'constellations' however this effort has stalled out for a few months since. It looks like we've tried a few times to get this document done
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180112/ [3y9m ago, creating compute starter kit, by sdague] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565466/ [7m ago, draft for scientific computing but in `governance`] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586212/3 [6m ago, draft for compute starter constillation, by dims]
Do we want to continue this effort (do we see value in it right now)? Does the community find it a useful document to publish and does anyone feel like they can pick it up?
There doesn't seem to be much momentum around that. Here is a bit more context to kickstart the discussion:
Here is the part of the "2019 TC vision" that describes constellations:
https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20170404-vision-2019.html#na...
As I see it, there were two key goals in there. First is to get the TC (and contributors in general) to wear more of a product manager hat and be more involved in defining common groups of OpenStack components matching a use case. The other is to expose those constructs more widely than just on the marketing website -- make them first-level objects that users interact with (in particular in documentation).
From what I vaguely remember about these conversations in the past, wasn't testing and validation of each constellation one of the harder parts to figure out?
Hi everyone: I'd like to follow up on this effort, it's stalled for a while and there hasn't been much feedback from the mailing list. Perhaps any community members would like to chime in on this? Thanks, Mohammed On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:08 PM Lance Bragstad <lbragstad@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/11/19 10:44 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Mohammed Naser wrote:
Hi everyone.
For quite sometime, there has been work on an effort of moving forward with building 'constellations' however this effort has stalled out for a few months since. It looks like we've tried a few times to get this document done
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180112/ [3y9m ago, creating compute starter kit, by sdague] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565466/ [7m ago, draft for scientific computing but in `governance`] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586212/3 [6m ago, draft for compute starter constillation, by dims]
Do we want to continue this effort (do we see value in it right now)? Does the community find it a useful document to publish and does anyone feel like they can pick it up?
There doesn't seem to be much momentum around that. Here is a bit more context to kickstart the discussion:
Here is the part of the "2019 TC vision" that describes constellations:
https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20170404-vision-2019.html#na...
As I see it, there were two key goals in there. First is to get the TC (and contributors in general) to wear more of a product manager hat and be more involved in defining common groups of OpenStack components matching a use case. The other is to expose those constructs more widely than just on the marketing website -- make them first-level objects that users interact with (in particular in documentation).
From what I vaguely remember about these conversations in the past, wasn't testing and validation of each constellation one of the harder parts to figure out?
-- Mohammed Naser — vexxhost ----------------------------------------------------- D. 514-316-8872 D. 800-910-1726 ext. 200 E. mnaser@vexxhost.com W. http://vexxhost.com
Hi everyone: It seems like this discussion has stalled out for around 2 weeks. Do we want to close this effort? Thanks, Mohammed On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 2:29 PM Mohammed Naser <mnaser@vexxhost.com> wrote:
Hi everyone:
I'd like to follow up on this effort, it's stalled for a while and there hasn't been much feedback from the mailing list.
Perhaps any community members would like to chime in on this?
Thanks, Mohammed
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:08 PM Lance Bragstad <lbragstad@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/11/19 10:44 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Mohammed Naser wrote:
Hi everyone.
For quite sometime, there has been work on an effort of moving forward with building 'constellations' however this effort has stalled out for a few months since. It looks like we've tried a few times to get this document done
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180112/ [3y9m ago, creating compute starter kit, by sdague] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565466/ [7m ago, draft for scientific computing but in `governance`] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586212/3 [6m ago, draft for compute starter constillation, by dims]
Do we want to continue this effort (do we see value in it right now)? Does the community find it a useful document to publish and does anyone feel like they can pick it up?
There doesn't seem to be much momentum around that. Here is a bit more context to kickstart the discussion:
Here is the part of the "2019 TC vision" that describes constellations:
https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20170404-vision-2019.html#na...
As I see it, there were two key goals in there. First is to get the TC (and contributors in general) to wear more of a product manager hat and be more involved in defining common groups of OpenStack components matching a use case. The other is to expose those constructs more widely than just on the marketing website -- make them first-level objects that users interact with (in particular in documentation).
From what I vaguely remember about these conversations in the past, wasn't testing and validation of each constellation one of the harder parts to figure out?
-- Mohammed Naser — vexxhost ----------------------------------------------------- D. 514-316-8872 D. 800-910-1726 ext. 200 E. mnaser@vexxhost.com W. http://vexxhost.com
-- Mohammed Naser — vexxhost ----------------------------------------------------- D. 514-316-8872 D. 800-910-1726 ext. 200 E. mnaser@vexxhost.com W. http://vexxhost.com
I thought we had already agreed at the TC level that we would drop this and leave it up to the community if they wanted to build it. Mohammed Naser <mnaser@vexxhost.com> writes:
Hi everyone:
It seems like this discussion has stalled out for around 2 weeks.
Do we want to close this effort?
Thanks, Mohammed
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 2:29 PM Mohammed Naser <mnaser@vexxhost.com> wrote:
Hi everyone:
I'd like to follow up on this effort, it's stalled for a while and there hasn't been much feedback from the mailing list.
Perhaps any community members would like to chime in on this?
Thanks, Mohammed
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:08 PM Lance Bragstad <lbragstad@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/11/19 10:44 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Mohammed Naser wrote:
Hi everyone.
For quite sometime, there has been work on an effort of moving forward with building 'constellations' however this effort has stalled out for a few months since. It looks like we've tried a few times to get this document done
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180112/ [3y9m ago, creating compute starter kit, by sdague] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565466/ [7m ago, draft for scientific computing but in `governance`] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586212/3 [6m ago, draft for compute starter constillation, by dims]
Do we want to continue this effort (do we see value in it right now)? Does the community find it a useful document to publish and does anyone feel like they can pick it up?
There doesn't seem to be much momentum around that. Here is a bit more context to kickstart the discussion:
Here is the part of the "2019 TC vision" that describes constellations:
https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20170404-vision-2019.html#na...
As I see it, there were two key goals in there. First is to get the TC (and contributors in general) to wear more of a product manager hat and be more involved in defining common groups of OpenStack components matching a use case. The other is to expose those constructs more widely than just on the marketing website -- make them first-level objects that users interact with (in particular in documentation).
From what I vaguely remember about these conversations in the past, wasn't testing and validation of each constellation one of the harder parts to figure out?
-- Mohammed Naser — vexxhost ----------------------------------------------------- D. 514-316-8872 D. 800-910-1726 ext. 200 E. mnaser@vexxhost.com W. http://vexxhost.com
-- Mohammed Naser — vexxhost ----------------------------------------------------- D. 514-316-8872 D. 800-910-1726 ext. 200 E. mnaser@vexxhost.com W. http://vexxhost.com
-- Doug
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019, Doug Hellmann wrote:
I thought we had already agreed at the TC level that we would drop this and leave it up to the community if they wanted to build it.
That's what I remember as well. In any case, the void of responses speaks volumes. Let's not try to create something where there's no interest. -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶ https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw: @anticdent
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Thierry Carrez