[cloudkitty][tc] Cloudkitty abandoned?
Posting here to raise awareness, and start discussion about next steps. It appears there is no one working on Cloudkitty anymore. No patches have been merged for several months now, including simple bot proposed patches. It would appear no one is maintaining this project anymore. I know there is a need out there for this type of functionality, so maybe this will raise awareness and get some attention to it. But barring that, I am wondering if we should start the process to retire this project. From a Victoria release perspective, it is milestone-2 week, so we should make a decision if any of the Cloudkitty deliverables should be included in this release or not. We can certainly force releases of whatever is the latest, but I think that is a bit risky since these repos have never merged the job template change for victoria and therefore are not even testing with Python 3.8. That is an official runtime for Victoria, so we run the risk of having issues with the code if someone runs under 3.8 but we have not tested to make sure there are no problems doing so. I am hoping this at least starts the discussion. I will not propose any release patches to remove anything until we have had a chance to discuss the situation. Sean
We are working on it. So far we have 3 open proposals there, but we do not have enough karma to move things along. Besides these 3 open proposals, we do have more ongoing extensions that have not yet been proposed to the community. On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:22 AM Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis@gmx.com> wrote:
Posting here to raise awareness, and start discussion about next steps.
It appears there is no one working on Cloudkitty anymore. No patches have been merged for several months now, including simple bot proposed patches. It would appear no one is maintaining this project anymore.
I know there is a need out there for this type of functionality, so maybe this will raise awareness and get some attention to it. But barring that, I am wondering if we should start the process to retire this project.
From a Victoria release perspective, it is milestone-2 week, so we should make a decision if any of the Cloudkitty deliverables should be included in this release or not. We can certainly force releases of whatever is the latest, but I think that is a bit risky since these repos have never merged the job template change for victoria and therefore are not even testing with Python 3.8. That is an official runtime for Victoria, so we run the risk of having issues with the code if someone runs under 3.8 but we have not tested to make sure there are no problems doing so.
I am hoping this at least starts the discussion. I will not propose any release patches to remove anything until we have had a chance to discuss the situation.
Sean
-- Rafael Weingärtner
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 14:43, Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
We are working on it. So far we have 3 open proposals there, but we do not have enough karma to move things along. Besides these 3 open proposals, we do have more ongoing extensions that have not yet been proposed to the community.
It's good to hear you want to help improve cloudkitty, however it sounds like what is required is help with maintaining the project. Is that something you could be involved with? Mark
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:22 AM Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis@gmx.com> wrote:
Posting here to raise awareness, and start discussion about next steps.
It appears there is no one working on Cloudkitty anymore. No patches have been merged for several months now, including simple bot proposed patches. It would appear no one is maintaining this project anymore.
I know there is a need out there for this type of functionality, so maybe this will raise awareness and get some attention to it. But barring that, I am wondering if we should start the process to retire this project.
From a Victoria release perspective, it is milestone-2 week, so we should make a decision if any of the Cloudkitty deliverables should be included in this release or not. We can certainly force releases of whatever is the latest, but I think that is a bit risky since these repos have never merged the job template change for victoria and therefore are not even testing with Python 3.8. That is an official runtime for Victoria, so we run the risk of having issues with the code if someone runs under 3.8 but we have not tested to make sure there are no problems doing so.
I am hoping this at least starts the discussion. I will not propose any release patches to remove anything until we have had a chance to discuss the situation.
Sean
-- Rafael Weingärtner
I am not sure how the projects/communities here in OpenStack are maintained and conducted, but I could for sure help. I am a committer and PMC for some Apache projects; therefore, I am a bit familiar with some processes in OpenSource communities. On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:11 AM Mark Goddard <mark@stackhpc.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 14:43, Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
We are working on it. So far we have 3 open proposals there, but we do
not have enough karma to move things along.
Besides these 3 open proposals, we do have more ongoing extensions that have not yet been proposed to the community.
It's good to hear you want to help improve cloudkitty, however it sounds like what is required is help with maintaining the project. Is that something you could be involved with? Mark
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:22 AM Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis@gmx.com>
wrote:
Posting here to raise awareness, and start discussion about next steps.
It appears there is no one working on Cloudkitty anymore. No patches have been merged for several months now, including simple bot proposed patches. It would appear no one is maintaining this project anymore.
I know there is a need out there for this type of functionality, so maybe this will raise awareness and get some attention to it. But barring that, I am wondering if we should start the process to retire this project.
From a Victoria release perspective, it is milestone-2 week, so we should make a decision if any of the Cloudkitty deliverables should be included in this release or not. We can certainly force releases of whatever is the latest, but I think that is a bit risky since these repos have never merged the job template change for victoria and therefore are not even testing with Python 3.8. That is an official runtime for Victoria, so we run the risk of having issues with the code if someone runs under 3.8 but we have not tested to make sure there are no problems doing so.
I am hoping this at least starts the discussion. I will not propose any release patches to remove anything until we have had a chance to discuss the situation.
Sean
-- Rafael Weingärtner
-- Rafael Weingärtner
I think the majority of 'maintenance' activities at the moment for Cloudkitty are the reviewing of open patches in gerrit [1] and triaging bugs that are reported in Launchpad[2] as they come in. When things come up on this mailing list that have the cloudkitty tag in the subject line (like this email), weighing in on them would also be helpful. If you need help getting setup with gerrit, I am happy to assist anyway I can :) -Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) [1] https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/cloudkitty+OR+project:opens... [2] https://launchpad.net/cloudkitty On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 6:21 AM Rafael Weingärtner < rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
I am not sure how the projects/communities here in OpenStack are maintained and conducted, but I could for sure help. I am a committer and PMC for some Apache projects; therefore, I am a bit familiar with some processes in OpenSource communities.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:11 AM Mark Goddard <mark@stackhpc.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 14:43, Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
We are working on it. So far we have 3 open proposals there, but we do
not have enough karma to move things along.
Besides these 3 open proposals, we do have more ongoing extensions that have not yet been proposed to the community.
It's good to hear you want to help improve cloudkitty, however it sounds like what is required is help with maintaining the project. Is that something you could be involved with? Mark
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:22 AM Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis@gmx.com>
wrote:
Posting here to raise awareness, and start discussion about next steps.
It appears there is no one working on Cloudkitty anymore. No patches have been merged for several months now, including simple bot proposed patches. It would appear no one is maintaining this project anymore.
I know there is a need out there for this type of functionality, so maybe this will raise awareness and get some attention to it. But barring that, I am wondering if we should start the process to retire this project.
From a Victoria release perspective, it is milestone-2 week, so we should make a decision if any of the Cloudkitty deliverables should be included in this release or not. We can certainly force releases of whatever is the latest, but I think that is a bit risky since these repos have never merged the job template change for victoria and therefore are not even testing with Python 3.8. That is an official runtime for Victoria, so we run the risk of having issues with the code if someone runs under 3.8 but we have not tested to make sure there are no problems doing so.
I am hoping this at least starts the discussion. I will not propose any release patches to remove anything until we have had a chance to
discuss
the situation.
Sean
-- Rafael Weingärtner
-- Rafael Weingärtner
Thanks a lot for starting this discussion, I am also quite concerned about this. At StackHPC we started looking into CloudKitty a year ago, when the community was still fairly active. There was an IRC meeting every month or so throughout 2019. Patches were getting merged. Unfortunately in 2020 activity stopped abruptly. There hasn't been any IRC meeting since early December and no patch has been merged since the end of March. I have submitted straightforward stable backports of bug fixes which have not received any answer. I am well aware of the difficulty of keeping up with open-source project maintenance when work deadlines are always taking priority. If the existing core team would be willing to grant +2 votes to more people, I would be happy to participate in the maintenance of the project. We've now deployed CloudKitty for several of our customers and have to maintain a stable fork anyway. We would rather maintain upstream directly! Pierre Riteau (priteau) On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 23:22, Kendall Nelson <kennelson11@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the majority of 'maintenance' activities at the moment for Cloudkitty are the reviewing of open patches in gerrit [1] and triaging bugs that are reported in Launchpad[2] as they come in. When things come up on this mailing list that have the cloudkitty tag in the subject line (like this email), weighing in on them would also be helpful.
If you need help getting setup with gerrit, I am happy to assist anyway I can :)
-Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo)
[1] https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/cloudkitty+OR+project:opens... [2] https://launchpad.net/cloudkitty
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 6:21 AM Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
I am not sure how the projects/communities here in OpenStack are maintained and conducted, but I could for sure help. I am a committer and PMC for some Apache projects; therefore, I am a bit familiar with some processes in OpenSource communities.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:11 AM Mark Goddard <mark@stackhpc.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 14:43, Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
We are working on it. So far we have 3 open proposals there, but we do not have enough karma to move things along. Besides these 3 open proposals, we do have more ongoing extensions that have not yet been proposed to the community.
It's good to hear you want to help improve cloudkitty, however it sounds like what is required is help with maintaining the project. Is that something you could be involved with? Mark
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:22 AM Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis@gmx.com> wrote:
Posting here to raise awareness, and start discussion about next steps.
It appears there is no one working on Cloudkitty anymore. No patches have been merged for several months now, including simple bot proposed patches. It would appear no one is maintaining this project anymore.
I know there is a need out there for this type of functionality, so maybe this will raise awareness and get some attention to it. But barring that, I am wondering if we should start the process to retire this project.
From a Victoria release perspective, it is milestone-2 week, so we should make a decision if any of the Cloudkitty deliverables should be included in this release or not. We can certainly force releases of whatever is the latest, but I think that is a bit risky since these repos have never merged the job template change for victoria and therefore are not even testing with Python 3.8. That is an official runtime for Victoria, so we run the risk of having issues with the code if someone runs under 3.8 but we have not tested to make sure there are no problems doing so.
I am hoping this at least starts the discussion. I will not propose any release patches to remove anything until we have had a chance to discuss the situation.
Sean
-- Rafael Weingärtner
-- Rafael Weingärtner
Thanks, Pierre for helping with this. ttx has reached out to PTL (Justin Ferrieu (jferrieu) <justin.ferrieu@objectif-libre.com>) but I am not sure if he got any response back. Can you also send email to PTL as well as the current core team to add you in the core list for project maintenance? Please note that, migration of CI/CD to ubuntu work might break the cloudkitty gate if patches are not merged on time. I am still working on few repos though. -gmann ---- On Fri, 07 Aug 2020 04:18:48 -0500 Pierre Riteau <pierre@stackhpc.com> wrote ----
Thanks a lot for starting this discussion, I am also quite concerned about this.
At StackHPC we started looking into CloudKitty a year ago, when the community was still fairly active. There was an IRC meeting every month or so throughout 2019. Patches were getting merged.
Unfortunately in 2020 activity stopped abruptly. There hasn't been any IRC meeting since early December and no patch has been merged since the end of March. I have submitted straightforward stable backports of bug fixes which have not received any answer.
I am well aware of the difficulty of keeping up with open-source project maintenance when work deadlines are always taking priority. If the existing core team would be willing to grant +2 votes to more people, I would be happy to participate in the maintenance of the project. We've now deployed CloudKitty for several of our customers and have to maintain a stable fork anyway. We would rather maintain upstream directly!
Pierre Riteau (priteau)
On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 23:22, Kendall Nelson <kennelson11@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the majority of 'maintenance' activities at the moment for Cloudkitty are the reviewing of open patches in gerrit [1] and triaging bugs that are reported in Launchpad[2] as they come in. When things come up on this mailing list that have the cloudkitty tag in the subject line (like this email), weighing in on them would also be helpful.
If you need help getting setup with gerrit, I am happy to assist anyway I can :)
-Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo)
[1] https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/cloudkitty+OR+project:opens... [2] https://launchpad.net/cloudkitty
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 6:21 AM Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
I am not sure how the projects/communities here in OpenStack are maintained and conducted, but I could for sure help. I am a committer and PMC for some Apache projects; therefore, I am a bit familiar with some processes in OpenSource communities.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:11 AM Mark Goddard <mark@stackhpc.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 14:43, Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
We are working on it. So far we have 3 open proposals there, but we do not have enough karma to move things along. Besides these 3 open proposals, we do have more ongoing extensions that have not yet been proposed to the community.
It's good to hear you want to help improve cloudkitty, however it sounds like what is required is help with maintaining the project. Is that something you could be involved with? Mark
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:22 AM Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis@gmx.com> wrote:
Posting here to raise awareness, and start discussion about next steps.
It appears there is no one working on Cloudkitty anymore. No patches have been merged for several months now, including simple bot proposed patches. It would appear no one is maintaining this project anymore.
I know there is a need out there for this type of functionality, so maybe this will raise awareness and get some attention to it. But barring that, I am wondering if we should start the process to retire this project.
From a Victoria release perspective, it is milestone-2 week, so we should make a decision if any of the Cloudkitty deliverables should be included in this release or not. We can certainly force releases of whatever is the latest, but I think that is a bit risky since these repos have never merged the job template change for victoria and therefore are not even testing with Python 3.8. That is an official runtime for Victoria, so we run the risk of having issues with the code if someone runs under 3.8 but we have not tested to make sure there are no problems doing so.
I am hoping this at least starts the discussion. I will not propose any release patches to remove anything until we have had a chance to discuss the situation.
Sean
-- Rafael Weingärtner
-- Rafael Weingärtner
On 8/7/20 4:10 PM, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
Thanks, Pierre for helping with this.
ttx has reached out to PTL (Justin Ferrieu (jferrieu) <justin.ferrieu@objectif-libre.com>) but I am not sure if he got any response back.
The end of the very good maintenance of Cloudkitty matched the date when objectif libre was sold to Linkbynet. Maybe the new owner don't care enough? This is very disappointing as I've been using it for some time already, and that I was satisfied by it (ie: it does the job...), and especially that latest releases are able to scale correctly. I very much would love if Pierre Riteau was successful in taking over. Good luck Pierre! I'll try to help whenever I can and if I'm not too busy. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)
Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 8/7/20 4:10 PM, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
Thanks, Pierre for helping with this.
ttx has reached out to PTL (Justin Ferrieu (jferrieu) <justin.ferrieu@objectif-libre.com>) but I am not sure if he got any response back.
No response so far, but they may all be in company summer vacation.
The end of the very good maintenance of Cloudkitty matched the date when objectif libre was sold to Linkbynet. Maybe the new owner don't care enough?
This is very disappointing as I've been using it for some time already, and that I was satisfied by it (ie: it does the job...), and especially that latest releases are able to scale correctly.
I very much would love if Pierre Riteau was successful in taking over. Good luck Pierre! I'll try to help whenever I can and if I'm not too busy.
Given the volunteers (Pierre, Rafael, Luis) I would support the TC using its unholy powers to add extra core reviewers to cloudkitty. If the current PTL comes back, I'm sure they will appreciate the help, and can always fix/revert things before Victoria release. -- Thierry Carrez (ttx)
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 6:16 AM Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org> wrote:
Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 8/7/20 4:10 PM, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
Thanks, Pierre for helping with this.
ttx has reached out to PTL (Justin Ferrieu (jferrieu) <justin.ferrieu@objectif-libre.com>) but I am not sure if he got any response back.
No response so far, but they may all be in company summer vacation.
The end of the very good maintenance of Cloudkitty matched the date when objectif libre was sold to Linkbynet. Maybe the new owner don't care enough?
This is very disappointing as I've been using it for some time already, and that I was satisfied by it (ie: it does the job...), and especially that latest releases are able to scale correctly.
I very much would love if Pierre Riteau was successful in taking over. Good luck Pierre! I'll try to help whenever I can and if I'm not too busy.
Given the volunteers (Pierre, Rafael, Luis) I would support the TC using its unholy powers to add extra core reviewers to cloudkitty.
https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745653 is currently merging and fungi will be adding Pierre as a core. Thank you for helping.
If the current PTL comes back, I'm sure they will appreciate the help, and can always fix/revert things before Victoria release.
-- Thierry Carrez (ttx)
-- Mohammed Naser VEXXHOST, Inc.
Awesome! Thank you guys for the help. We have few PRs open there that are ready (or close to be ready) to be merged. On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 1:59 PM Mohammed Naser <mnaser@vexxhost.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 6:16 AM Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org> wrote:
Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 8/7/20 4:10 PM, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
Thanks, Pierre for helping with this.
ttx has reached out to PTL (Justin Ferrieu (jferrieu) <
justin.ferrieu@objectif-libre.com>)
but I am not sure if he got any response back.
No response so far, but they may all be in company summer vacation.
The end of the very good maintenance of Cloudkitty matched the date when objectif libre was sold to Linkbynet. Maybe the new owner don't care enough?
This is very disappointing as I've been using it for some time already, and that I was satisfied by it (ie: it does the job...), and especially that latest releases are able to scale correctly.
I very much would love if Pierre Riteau was successful in taking over. Good luck Pierre! I'll try to help whenever I can and if I'm not too busy.
Given the volunteers (Pierre, Rafael, Luis) I would support the TC using its unholy powers to add extra core reviewers to cloudkitty.
https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745653 is currently merging and fungi will be adding Pierre as a core.
Thank you for helping.
If the current PTL comes back, I'm sure they will appreciate the help, and can always fix/revert things before Victoria release.
-- Thierry Carrez (ttx)
-- Mohammed Naser VEXXHOST, Inc.
-- Rafael Weingärtner
I have now received core reviewer privileges. Thank you to TC members for trusting us with the CloudKitty project. I would like to kick things off by resuming IRC meetings. They're set to run every two weeks (on odd weeks) on Monday at 1400 UTC in #cloudkitty. Is this a convenient time slot for all potential contributors to the project? On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:08, Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
Awesome! Thank you guys for the help. We have few PRs open there that are ready (or close to be ready) to be merged.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 1:59 PM Mohammed Naser <mnaser@vexxhost.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 6:16 AM Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org> wrote:
Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 8/7/20 4:10 PM, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
Thanks, Pierre for helping with this.
ttx has reached out to PTL (Justin Ferrieu (jferrieu) <justin.ferrieu@objectif-libre.com>) but I am not sure if he got any response back.
No response so far, but they may all be in company summer vacation.
The end of the very good maintenance of Cloudkitty matched the date when objectif libre was sold to Linkbynet. Maybe the new owner don't care enough?
This is very disappointing as I've been using it for some time already, and that I was satisfied by it (ie: it does the job...), and especially that latest releases are able to scale correctly.
I very much would love if Pierre Riteau was successful in taking over. Good luck Pierre! I'll try to help whenever I can and if I'm not too busy.
Given the volunteers (Pierre, Rafael, Luis) I would support the TC using its unholy powers to add extra core reviewers to cloudkitty.
https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745653 is currently merging and fungi will be adding Pierre as a core.
Thank you for helping.
If the current PTL comes back, I'm sure they will appreciate the help, and can always fix/revert things before Victoria release.
-- Thierry Carrez (ttx)
-- Mohammed Naser VEXXHOST, Inc.
-- Rafael Weingärtner
Sounds good to me. On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 5:37 PM Pierre Riteau <pierre@stackhpc.com> wrote:
I have now received core reviewer privileges. Thank you to TC members for trusting us with the CloudKitty project.
I would like to kick things off by resuming IRC meetings. They're set to run every two weeks (on odd weeks) on Monday at 1400 UTC in #cloudkitty. Is this a convenient time slot for all potential contributors to the project?
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:08, Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
Awesome! Thank you guys for the help. We have few PRs open there that are ready (or close to be ready) to be
merged.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 1:59 PM Mohammed Naser <mnaser@vexxhost.com>
wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 6:16 AM Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org>
wrote:
Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 8/7/20 4:10 PM, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
Thanks, Pierre for helping with this.
ttx has reached out to PTL (Justin Ferrieu (jferrieu) <
justin.ferrieu@objectif-libre.com>)
but I am not sure if he got any response back.
No response so far, but they may all be in company summer vacation.
The end of the very good maintenance of Cloudkitty matched the date when objectif libre was sold to Linkbynet. Maybe the new owner don't care enough?
This is very disappointing as I've been using it for some time already, and that I was satisfied by it (ie: it does the job...), and especially that latest releases are able to scale correctly.
I very much would love if Pierre Riteau was successful in taking over. Good luck Pierre! I'll try to help whenever I can and if I'm not too busy.
Given the volunteers (Pierre, Rafael, Luis) I would support the TC using its unholy powers to add extra core reviewers to cloudkitty.
https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745653 is currently merging and fungi will be adding Pierre as a core.
Thank you for helping.
If the current PTL comes back, I'm sure they will appreciate the help, and can always fix/revert things before Victoria release.
-- Thierry Carrez (ttx)
-- Mohammed Naser VEXXHOST, Inc.
-- Rafael Weingärtner
-- Rafael Weingärtner
Sounds good to me. El El mié, 12 ago 2020 a las 22:41, Rafael Weingärtner < rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> escribió:
Sounds good to me.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 5:37 PM Pierre Riteau <pierre@stackhpc.com> wrote:
I have now received core reviewer privileges. Thank you to TC members
for trusting us with the CloudKitty project.
I would like to kick things off by resuming IRC meetings. They're set
to run every two weeks (on odd weeks) on Monday at 1400 UTC in
#cloudkitty. Is this a convenient time slot for all potential
contributors to the project?
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:08, Rafael Weingärtner
<rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
Awesome! Thank you guys for the help.
We have few PRs open there that are ready (or close to be ready) to be merged.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 1:59 PM Mohammed Naser <mnaser@vexxhost.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 6:16 AM Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org> wrote:
Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 8/7/20 4:10 PM, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
> Thanks, Pierre for helping with this.
>
> ttx has reached out to PTL (Justin Ferrieu (jferrieu) < justin.ferrieu@objectif-libre.com>)
> but I am not sure if he got any response back.
No response so far, but they may all be in company summer vacation.
The end of the very good maintenance of Cloudkitty matched the date when
objectif libre was sold to Linkbynet. Maybe the new owner don't care enough?
This is very disappointing as I've been using it for some time already,
and that I was satisfied by it (ie: it does the job...), and especially
that latest releases are able to scale correctly.
I very much would love if Pierre Riteau was successful in taking over.
Good luck Pierre! I'll try to help whenever I can and if I'm not too busy.
Given the volunteers (Pierre, Rafael, Luis) I would support the TC using
its unholy powers to add extra core reviewers to cloudkitty.
https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745653 is currently merging and fungi will be
adding Pierre as a core.
Thank you for helping.
If the current PTL comes back, I'm sure they will appreciate the help,
and can always fix/revert things before Victoria release.
--
Thierry Carrez (ttx)
--
Mohammed Naser
VEXXHOST, Inc.
--
Rafael Weingärtner
-- Rafael Weingärtner
-- Br, Luis Rmz Blockchain, DevOps & Open Source Cloud Solutions Architect
Founder & CEO OpenCloud.es luis.ramirez@opencloud.es Skype ID: d.overload Hangouts: luis.ramirez@opencloud.es +34 911 950 123 / +39 392 1289553 / +49 152 26917722
Thank you both. I've merged a few patches to fix CI and finalise the Ussuri release (for example release notes were missing). I gave core reviewer privileges to Rafael and Luis. Let's try to merge patches with two +2 votes from now on. On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 23:38, Luis Ramirez <luis.ramirez@opencloud.es> wrote:
Sounds good to me.
El El mié, 12 ago 2020 a las 22:41, Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> escribió:
Sounds good to me.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 5:37 PM Pierre Riteau <pierre@stackhpc.com> wrote:
I have now received core reviewer privileges. Thank you to TC members
for trusting us with the CloudKitty project.
I would like to kick things off by resuming IRC meetings. They're set
to run every two weeks (on odd weeks) on Monday at 1400 UTC in
#cloudkitty. Is this a convenient time slot for all potential
contributors to the project?
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:08, Rafael Weingärtner
<rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
Awesome! Thank you guys for the help.
We have few PRs open there that are ready (or close to be ready) to be merged.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 1:59 PM Mohammed Naser <mnaser@vexxhost.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 6:16 AM Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org> wrote:
Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 8/7/20 4:10 PM, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
>> Thanks, Pierre for helping with this.
>>
>> ttx has reached out to PTL (Justin Ferrieu (jferrieu) <justin.ferrieu@objectif-libre.com>)
>> but I am not sure if he got any response back.
No response so far, but they may all be in company summer vacation.
> The end of the very good maintenance of Cloudkitty matched the date when
> objectif libre was sold to Linkbynet. Maybe the new owner don't care enough?
>
> This is very disappointing as I've been using it for some time already,
> and that I was satisfied by it (ie: it does the job...), and especially
> that latest releases are able to scale correctly.
>
> I very much would love if Pierre Riteau was successful in taking over.
> Good luck Pierre! I'll try to help whenever I can and if I'm not too busy.
Given the volunteers (Pierre, Rafael, Luis) I would support the TC using
its unholy powers to add extra core reviewers to cloudkitty.
https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745653 is currently merging and fungi will be
adding Pierre as a core.
Thank you for helping.
If the current PTL comes back, I'm sure they will appreciate the help,
and can always fix/revert things before Victoria release.
--
Thierry Carrez (ttx)
--
Mohammed Naser
VEXXHOST, Inc.
--
Rafael Weingärtner
-- Rafael Weingärtner
-- Br, Luis Rmz Blockchain, DevOps & Open Source Cloud Solutions Architect ---------------------------------------- Founder & CEO OpenCloud.es luis.ramirez@opencloud.es Skype ID: d.overload Hangouts: luis.ramirez@opencloud.es +34 911 950 123 / +39 392 1289553 / +49 152 26917722
Awesome, thanks! I will try to dedicate a few hours every week to review CloudKitty patches. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 8:36 AM Pierre Riteau <pierre@stackhpc.com> wrote:
Thank you both.
I've merged a few patches to fix CI and finalise the Ussuri release (for example release notes were missing). I gave core reviewer privileges to Rafael and Luis. Let's try to merge patches with two +2 votes from now on.
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 23:38, Luis Ramirez <luis.ramirez@opencloud.es> wrote:
Sounds good to me.
El El mié, 12 ago 2020 a las 22:41, Rafael Weingärtner <
Sounds good to me.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 5:37 PM Pierre Riteau <pierre@stackhpc.com>
wrote:
I have now received core reviewer privileges. Thank you to TC members
for trusting us with the CloudKitty project.
I would like to kick things off by resuming IRC meetings. They're set
to run every two weeks (on odd weeks) on Monday at 1400 UTC in
#cloudkitty. Is this a convenient time slot for all potential
contributors to the project?
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:08, Rafael Weingärtner
<rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
Awesome! Thank you guys for the help.
We have few PRs open there that are ready (or close to be ready) to
be merged.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 1:59 PM Mohammed Naser <mnaser@vexxhost.com>
wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 6:16 AM Thierry Carrez <
rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> escribió: thierry@openstack.org> wrote:
>
> Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > On 8/7/20 4:10 PM, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
> >> Thanks, Pierre for helping with this.
> >>
> >> ttx has reached out to PTL (Justin Ferrieu (jferrieu) <
justin.ferrieu@objectif-libre.com>)
> >> but I am not sure if he got any response back.
>
> No response so far, but they may all be in company summer
vacation.
>
> > The end of the very good maintenance of Cloudkitty matched the
date when
> > objectif libre was sold to Linkbynet. Maybe the new owner don't
care enough?
> >
> > This is very disappointing as I've been using it for some time
already,
> > and that I was satisfied by it (ie: it does the job...), and
especially
> > that latest releases are able to scale correctly.
> >
> > I very much would love if Pierre Riteau was successful in
taking over.
> > Good luck Pierre! I'll try to help whenever I can and if I'm
not too busy.
>
> Given the volunteers (Pierre, Rafael, Luis) I would support the
TC using
> its unholy powers to add extra core reviewers to cloudkitty.
https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745653 is currently merging and
fungi will be
adding Pierre as a core.
Thank you for helping.
> If the current PTL comes back, I'm sure they will appreciate the
help,
> and can always fix/revert things before Victoria release.
>
> --
> Thierry Carrez (ttx)
>
--
Mohammed Naser
VEXXHOST, Inc.
--
Rafael Weingärtner
-- Rafael Weingärtner
-- Br, Luis Rmz Blockchain, DevOps & Open Source Cloud Solutions Architect ---------------------------------------- Founder & CEO OpenCloud.es luis.ramirez@opencloud.es Skype ID: d.overload Hangouts: luis.ramirez@opencloud.es +34 911 950 123 / +39 392 1289553 / +49 152 26917722
-- Rafael Weingärtner
Great! I'll try to do the same. Br, Luis Rmz <https://www.linkedin.com/in/luisframirez/> Blockchain, DevOps & Open Source Cloud Solutions Architect ---------------------------------------- Founder & CEO OpenCloud.es <http://www.opencloud.es/> luis.ramirez@opencloud.es Skype ID: d.overload Hangouts: luis.ramirez@opencloud.es [image: ] +34 911 950 123 / [image: ]+39 392 1289553 / [image: ]+49 152 26917722 / Česká republika: +420 774 274 882 ----------------------------------------------------- El jue., 13 ago. 2020 a las 13:44, Rafael Weingärtner (< rafaelweingartner@gmail.com>) escribió:
Awesome, thanks! I will try to dedicate a few hours every week to review CloudKitty patches.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 8:36 AM Pierre Riteau <pierre@stackhpc.com> wrote:
Thank you both.
I've merged a few patches to fix CI and finalise the Ussuri release (for example release notes were missing). I gave core reviewer privileges to Rafael and Luis. Let's try to merge patches with two +2 votes from now on.
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 23:38, Luis Ramirez <luis.ramirez@opencloud.es> wrote:
Sounds good to me.
El El mié, 12 ago 2020 a las 22:41, Rafael Weingärtner <
Sounds good to me.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 5:37 PM Pierre Riteau <pierre@stackhpc.com>
wrote:
I have now received core reviewer privileges. Thank you to TC members
for trusting us with the CloudKitty project.
I would like to kick things off by resuming IRC meetings. They're set
to run every two weeks (on odd weeks) on Monday at 1400 UTC in
#cloudkitty. Is this a convenient time slot for all potential
contributors to the project?
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:08, Rafael Weingärtner
<rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
Awesome! Thank you guys for the help.
We have few PRs open there that are ready (or close to be ready) to
be merged.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 1:59 PM Mohammed Naser <mnaser@vexxhost.com>
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 6:16 AM Thierry Carrez <
rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> escribió: thierry@openstack.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > > On 8/7/20 4:10 PM, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
> > >> Thanks, Pierre for helping with this.
> > >>
> > >> ttx has reached out to PTL (Justin Ferrieu (jferrieu) <
justin.ferrieu@objectif-libre.com>)
> > >> but I am not sure if he got any response back.
> >
> > No response so far, but they may all be in company summer
vacation.
> >
> > > The end of the very good maintenance of Cloudkitty matched the
date when
> > > objectif libre was sold to Linkbynet. Maybe the new owner
don't care enough?
> > >
> > > This is very disappointing as I've been using it for some time
already,
> > > and that I was satisfied by it (ie: it does the job...), and
especially
> > > that latest releases are able to scale correctly.
> > >
> > > I very much would love if Pierre Riteau was successful in
taking over.
> > > Good luck Pierre! I'll try to help whenever I can and if I'm
not too busy.
> >
> > Given the volunteers (Pierre, Rafael, Luis) I would support the
TC using
> > its unholy powers to add extra core reviewers to cloudkitty.
>
> https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745653 is currently merging and
fungi will be
> adding Pierre as a core.
>
> Thank you for helping.
>
> > If the current PTL comes back, I'm sure they will appreciate the
help,
> > and can always fix/revert things before Victoria release.
> >
> > --
> > Thierry Carrez (ttx)
> >
>
>
> --
> Mohammed Naser
> VEXXHOST, Inc.
>
--
Rafael Weingärtner
-- Rafael Weingärtner
-- Br, Luis Rmz Blockchain, DevOps & Open Source Cloud Solutions Architect ---------------------------------------- Founder & CEO OpenCloud.es luis.ramirez@opencloud.es Skype ID: d.overload Hangouts: luis.ramirez@opencloud.es +34 911 950 123 / +39 392 1289553 / +49 152 26917722
-- Rafael Weingärtner
Hello everyone Sorry it took me a few days to answer that thread. First of all I am REALLY REALLY happy to see that a few persones are stepping up to continue to work on Cloudkitty. The situation is, like usually, a chaining of events (and honestly Thomas it is absolutely not related to the sale of Objectif Libre by Linkbynet). In late 2019 we tried to push hard to organize a community around Cloudkitty. We have tried to organise a few call with some users explaining them the next challenges that the project will be facing and how we could all work on that. Like it is the case for many projects we had little/no feedback... By early 2020 we had some turn over in the company (once again not related to the sale) and we have started to organise ourself to continue our ongoing on CLoudkitty like we are doing since the beginning of the project, that I have started some years ago... And then the COVID crisis arrived, and like many compagny in the world we had to change our priorities... During the end of summer (before holidays..) we started to organize again internally to continue that work. So it is a great news that a community is rising, and we will be really happy to work with the rest of it to continue to improve Cloudkitty, especially since like Thomas said "It does the job" :) Christophe On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 6:16 AM Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org> wrote:
Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 8/7/20 4:10 PM, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
Thanks, Pierre for helping with this.
ttx has reached out to PTL (Justin Ferrieu (jferrieu) < justin.ferrieu@objectif-libre.com>) but I am not sure if he got any response back.
No response so far, but they may all be in company summer vacation.
The end of the very good maintenance of Cloudkitty matched the date when objectif libre was sold to Linkbynet. Maybe the new owner don't care enough?
This is very disappointing as I've been using it for some time already, and that I was satisfied by it (ie: it does the job...), and especially that latest releases are able to scale correctly.
I very much would love if Pierre Riteau was successful in taking over. Good luck Pierre! I'll try to help whenever I can and if I'm not too busy.
Given the volunteers (Pierre, Rafael, Luis) I would support the TC using its unholy powers to add extra core reviewers to cloudkitty.
If the current PTL comes back, I'm sure they will appreciate the help, and can always fix/revert things before Victoria release.
-- Thierry Carrez (ttx)
-- ---- Christophe Sauthier Directeur Général Objectif Libre : Au service de votre Cloud +33 (0) 6 16 98 63 96 | christophe.sauthier@objectif-libre.com https://www.objectif-libre.com | @objectiflibre Recevez la Pause Cloud Et DevOps : https://olib.re/abo-pause
Hello Christophe, Good to hear that Objectif Libre is still planning to be involved in the project. The existing core reviewer team is still in place. Do let us know if new contributors could be granted core reviewer privileges. Best wishes, Pierre Riteau (priteau) On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 at 23:21, Christophe Sauthier <christophe.sauthier@objectif-libre.com> wrote:
Hello everyone
Sorry it took me a few days to answer that thread.
First of all I am REALLY REALLY happy to see that a few persones are stepping up to continue to work on Cloudkitty.
The situation is, like usually, a chaining of events (and honestly Thomas it is absolutely not related to the sale of Objectif Libre by Linkbynet). In late 2019 we tried to push hard to organize a community around Cloudkitty. We have tried to organise a few call with some users explaining them the next challenges that the project will be facing and how we could all work on that. Like it is the case for many projects we had little/no feedback... By early 2020 we had some turn over in the company (once again not related to the sale) and we have started to organise ourself to continue our ongoing on CLoudkitty like we are doing since the beginning of the project, that I have started some years ago... And then the COVID crisis arrived, and like many compagny in the world we had to change our priorities... During the end of summer (before holidays..) we started to organize again internally to continue that work. So it is a great news that a community is rising, and we will be really happy to work with the rest of it to continue to improve Cloudkitty, especially since like Thomas said "It does the job" :)
Christophe
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 6:16 AM Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org> wrote:
Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 8/7/20 4:10 PM, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
Thanks, Pierre for helping with this.
ttx has reached out to PTL (Justin Ferrieu (jferrieu) <justin.ferrieu@objectif-libre.com>) but I am not sure if he got any response back.
No response so far, but they may all be in company summer vacation.
The end of the very good maintenance of Cloudkitty matched the date when objectif libre was sold to Linkbynet. Maybe the new owner don't care enough?
This is very disappointing as I've been using it for some time already, and that I was satisfied by it (ie: it does the job...), and especially that latest releases are able to scale correctly.
I very much would love if Pierre Riteau was successful in taking over. Good luck Pierre! I'll try to help whenever I can and if I'm not too busy.
Given the volunteers (Pierre, Rafael, Luis) I would support the TC using its unholy powers to add extra core reviewers to cloudkitty.
If the current PTL comes back, I'm sure they will appreciate the help, and can always fix/revert things before Victoria release.
-- Thierry Carrez (ttx)
--
---- Christophe Sauthier Directeur Général
Objectif Libre : Au service de votre Cloud
+33 (0) 6 16 98 63 96 | christophe.sauthier@objectif-libre.com
https://www.objectif-libre.com | @objectiflibre Recevez la Pause Cloud Et DevOps : https://olib.re/abo-pause
I see. Thanks for the heads up. I will try to dedicate some time every week for these tasks. On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 6:22 PM Kendall Nelson <kennelson11@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the majority of 'maintenance' activities at the moment for Cloudkitty are the reviewing of open patches in gerrit [1] and triaging bugs that are reported in Launchpad[2] as they come in. When things come up on this mailing list that have the cloudkitty tag in the subject line (like this email), weighing in on them would also be helpful.
If you need help getting setup with gerrit, I am happy to assist anyway I can :)
-Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo)
[1] https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/cloudkitty+OR+project:opens... [2] https://launchpad.net/cloudkitty
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 6:21 AM Rafael Weingärtner < rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
I am not sure how the projects/communities here in OpenStack are maintained and conducted, but I could for sure help. I am a committer and PMC for some Apache projects; therefore, I am a bit familiar with some processes in OpenSource communities.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:11 AM Mark Goddard <mark@stackhpc.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 14:43, Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
We are working on it. So far we have 3 open proposals there, but we do
Besides these 3 open proposals, we do have more ongoing extensions
not have enough karma to move things along. that have not yet been proposed to the community.
It's good to hear you want to help improve cloudkitty, however it sounds like what is required is help with maintaining the project. Is that something you could be involved with? Mark
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:22 AM Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis@gmx.com>
wrote:
Posting here to raise awareness, and start discussion about next
steps.
It appears there is no one working on Cloudkitty anymore. No patches have been merged for several months now, including simple bot proposed patches. It would appear no one is maintaining this project anymore.
I know there is a need out there for this type of functionality, so maybe this will raise awareness and get some attention to it. But barring that, I am wondering if we should start the process to retire this project.
From a Victoria release perspective, it is milestone-2 week, so we should make a decision if any of the Cloudkitty deliverables should be included in this release or not. We can certainly force releases of whatever is the latest, but I think that is a bit risky since these repos have never merged the job template change for victoria and therefore are not even testing with Python 3.8. That is an official runtime for Victoria, so we run the risk of having issues with the
code
if someone runs under 3.8 but we have not tested to make sure there are no problems doing so.
I am hoping this at least starts the discussion. I will not propose any release patches to remove anything until we have had a chance to discuss the situation.
Sean
-- Rafael Weingärtner
-- Rafael Weingärtner
-- Rafael Weingärtner
Sean McGinnis wrote:
Posting here to raise awareness, and start discussion about next steps.
It appears there is no one working on Cloudkitty anymore. No patches have been merged for several months now, including simple bot proposed patches. It would appear no one is maintaining this project anymore. [...]
Thanks for raising this, Sean. I reached out to the maintainers at Objectif Libre to check on their status. Maybe it's just a COVID19 + summer vacancy situation... Let's see what they say. -- Thierry Carrez (ttx)
participants (11)
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Christophe Sauthier
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Ghanshyam Mann
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Kendall Nelson
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Luis Ramirez
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Mark Goddard
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Mohammed Naser
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Pierre Riteau
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Rafael Weingärtner
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Sean McGinnis
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Thierry Carrez
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Thomas Goirand