[all] Volunteer mailing list administrators
This is a long-overdue request. It's been more than a year since we combined openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-ops, openstack-sigs, openstack-tc and a number of other lower-traffic mailing lists into this new openstack-discuss mailing list. In that time, I've been serving as the sole administrator and moderator for the combined list. As I'm about to take an extended vacation away from regular Internet access for the first time since the list migration, I will be unable to check the moderation queue on a daily basis, and so would appreciate a bit of help from some of you. If there's anyone interested in helping out as additional administrators for the openstack-discuss mailing list, please reply to this message on-list (so other subscribers know who is volunteering) and I'll help bring you up to speed. In the immediate term I need at least one person willing to check the moderation queue a few times in the second half of December while I'm unavailable (daily would be awesome but a couple times a week is probably fine really). If you're expecting to be around and able to help with that, please respond on Monday or Tuesday of this week and I'll sync up to get you a copy of the Mailman administrator password for it and a quick walk-through of the moderator interface (if you already moderate other Mailman lists, all the better!). Moderation queue volume is typically on the order of twenty to fifty messages a day, most of which are spam of course, but one or two a day on average are legitimate messages either from non-subscribers with a question or sometimes slightly over the size limit because of attached logs. The spam and non-spam are pretty easy to tell apart if you've been around our community for a while: if the subject of the message has a recognizable topic tag in it or mentions the name of some OpenStack project then it's quite likely legitimate and can be approved. Spam on the other had usually either has a subject which is not in English (the required language for messages to this list) or is clearly someone selling something or running a scam. When in doubt though, you can quickly check the message body to be sure. I tend to spend at most 5 minutes a day looking through the moderation queue (and usually far less). Longer term, I'd like to see anywhere between 3-5 admins for the openstack-discuss list. No need to coordinate workload or vacations that way, we can just each check the queue when we think about it and that should be plenty often. Also while keeping on top of the moderation queue is the primary need, it would be great for these folks to know/learn a bit about how Mailman mailing lists are configured and how to troubleshoot them from the WebUI and message headers. Better still, if anyone wants to get even more involved, the OpenDev sysadmins would always welcome new recruits willing to help manage and run our mailing list servers and our infrastructure overall, I'm happy to make introductions! -- Jeremy Stanley
Count me in, fungi. Let's start with the moderation and mailman. :-) -yoctozepto niedz., 15 gru 2019 o 18:09 Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> napisał(a):
This is a long-overdue request. It's been more than a year since we combined openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-ops, openstack-sigs, openstack-tc and a number of other lower-traffic mailing lists into this new openstack-discuss mailing list. In that time, I've been serving as the sole administrator and moderator for the combined list. As I'm about to take an extended vacation away from regular Internet access for the first time since the list migration, I will be unable to check the moderation queue on a daily basis, and so would appreciate a bit of help from some of you.
If there's anyone interested in helping out as additional administrators for the openstack-discuss mailing list, please reply to this message on-list (so other subscribers know who is volunteering) and I'll help bring you up to speed. In the immediate term I need at least one person willing to check the moderation queue a few times in the second half of December while I'm unavailable (daily would be awesome but a couple times a week is probably fine really). If you're expecting to be around and able to help with that, please respond on Monday or Tuesday of this week and I'll sync up to get you a copy of the Mailman administrator password for it and a quick walk-through of the moderator interface (if you already moderate other Mailman lists, all the better!).
Moderation queue volume is typically on the order of twenty to fifty messages a day, most of which are spam of course, but one or two a day on average are legitimate messages either from non-subscribers with a question or sometimes slightly over the size limit because of attached logs. The spam and non-spam are pretty easy to tell apart if you've been around our community for a while: if the subject of the message has a recognizable topic tag in it or mentions the name of some OpenStack project then it's quite likely legitimate and can be approved. Spam on the other had usually either has a subject which is not in English (the required language for messages to this list) or is clearly someone selling something or running a scam. When in doubt though, you can quickly check the message body to be sure. I tend to spend at most 5 minutes a day looking through the moderation queue (and usually far less).
Longer term, I'd like to see anywhere between 3-5 admins for the openstack-discuss list. No need to coordinate workload or vacations that way, we can just each check the queue when we think about it and that should be plenty often. Also while keeping on top of the moderation queue is the primary need, it would be great for these folks to know/learn a bit about how Mailman mailing lists are configured and how to troubleshoot them from the WebUI and message headers. Better still, if anyone wants to get even more involved, the OpenDev sysadmins would always welcome new recruits willing to help manage and run our mailing list servers and our infrastructure overall, I'm happy to make introductions! -- Jeremy Stanley
Yep count me in too, if volunteers still needed. //Florian
On 15. Dec 2019, at 19.54, Radosław Piliszek <radoslaw.piliszek@gmail.com> wrote:
Count me in, fungi.
Let's start with the moderation and mailman. :-)
-yoctozepto
niedz., 15 gru 2019 o 18:09 Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> napisał(a):
This is a long-overdue request. It's been more than a year since we combined openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-ops, openstack-sigs, openstack-tc and a number of other lower-traffic mailing lists into this new openstack-discuss mailing list. In that time, I've been serving as the sole administrator and moderator for the combined list. As I'm about to take an extended vacation away from regular Internet access for the first time since the list migration, I will be unable to check the moderation queue on a daily basis, and so would appreciate a bit of help from some of you.
If there's anyone interested in helping out as additional administrators for the openstack-discuss mailing list, please reply to this message on-list (so other subscribers know who is volunteering) and I'll help bring you up to speed. In the immediate term I need at least one person willing to check the moderation queue a few times in the second half of December while I'm unavailable (daily would be awesome but a couple times a week is probably fine really). If you're expecting to be around and able to help with that, please respond on Monday or Tuesday of this week and I'll sync up to get you a copy of the Mailman administrator password for it and a quick walk-through of the moderator interface (if you already moderate other Mailman lists, all the better!).
Moderation queue volume is typically on the order of twenty to fifty messages a day, most of which are spam of course, but one or two a day on average are legitimate messages either from non-subscribers with a question or sometimes slightly over the size limit because of attached logs. The spam and non-spam are pretty easy to tell apart if you've been around our community for a while: if the subject of the message has a recognizable topic tag in it or mentions the name of some OpenStack project then it's quite likely legitimate and can be approved. Spam on the other had usually either has a subject which is not in English (the required language for messages to this list) or is clearly someone selling something or running a scam. When in doubt though, you can quickly check the message body to be sure. I tend to spend at most 5 minutes a day looking through the moderation queue (and usually far less).
Longer term, I'd like to see anywhere between 3-5 admins for the openstack-discuss list. No need to coordinate workload or vacations that way, we can just each check the queue when we think about it and that should be plenty often. Also while keeping on top of the moderation queue is the primary need, it would be great for these folks to know/learn a bit about how Mailman mailing lists are configured and how to troubleshoot them from the WebUI and message headers. Better still, if anyone wants to get even more involved, the OpenDev sysadmins would always welcome new recruits willing to help manage and run our mailing list servers and our infrastructure overall, I'm happy to make introductions! -- Jeremy Stanley
Hi, I can help as well with this moderation so count me in too :)
On 15 Dec 2019, at 18:05, Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> wrote:
This is a long-overdue request. It's been more than a year since we combined openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-ops, openstack-sigs, openstack-tc and a number of other lower-traffic mailing lists into this new openstack-discuss mailing list. In that time, I've been serving as the sole administrator and moderator for the combined list. As I'm about to take an extended vacation away from regular Internet access for the first time since the list migration, I will be unable to check the moderation queue on a daily basis, and so would appreciate a bit of help from some of you.
If there's anyone interested in helping out as additional administrators for the openstack-discuss mailing list, please reply to this message on-list (so other subscribers know who is volunteering) and I'll help bring you up to speed. In the immediate term I need at least one person willing to check the moderation queue a few times in the second half of December while I'm unavailable (daily would be awesome but a couple times a week is probably fine really). If you're expecting to be around and able to help with that, please respond on Monday or Tuesday of this week and I'll sync up to get you a copy of the Mailman administrator password for it and a quick walk-through of the moderator interface (if you already moderate other Mailman lists, all the better!).
Moderation queue volume is typically on the order of twenty to fifty messages a day, most of which are spam of course, but one or two a day on average are legitimate messages either from non-subscribers with a question or sometimes slightly over the size limit because of attached logs. The spam and non-spam are pretty easy to tell apart if you've been around our community for a while: if the subject of the message has a recognizable topic tag in it or mentions the name of some OpenStack project then it's quite likely legitimate and can be approved. Spam on the other had usually either has a subject which is not in English (the required language for messages to this list) or is clearly someone selling something or running a scam. When in doubt though, you can quickly check the message body to be sure. I tend to spend at most 5 minutes a day looking through the moderation queue (and usually far less).
Longer term, I'd like to see anywhere between 3-5 admins for the openstack-discuss list. No need to coordinate workload or vacations that way, we can just each check the queue when we think about it and that should be plenty often. Also while keeping on top of the moderation queue is the primary need, it would be great for these folks to know/learn a bit about how Mailman mailing lists are configured and how to troubleshoot them from the WebUI and message headers. Better still, if anyone wants to get even more involved, the OpenDev sysadmins would always welcome new recruits willing to help manage and run our mailing list servers and our infrastructure overall, I'm happy to make introductions! -- Jeremy Stanley
— Slawek Kaplonski Senior software engineer Red Hat
I'm also happy to help! Chris On 12/15/19 6:05 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
This is a long-overdue request. It's been more than a year since we combined openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-ops, openstack-sigs, openstack-tc and a number of other lower-traffic mailing lists into this new openstack-discuss mailing list. In that time, I've been serving as the sole administrator and moderator for the combined list. As I'm about to take an extended vacation away from regular Internet access for the first time since the list migration, I will be unable to check the moderation queue on a daily basis, and so would appreciate a bit of help from some of you.
If there's anyone interested in helping out as additional administrators for the openstack-discuss mailing list, please reply to this message on-list (so other subscribers know who is volunteering) and I'll help bring you up to speed. In the immediate term I need at least one person willing to check the moderation queue a few times in the second half of December while I'm unavailable (daily would be awesome but a couple times a week is probably fine really). If you're expecting to be around and able to help with that, please respond on Monday or Tuesday of this week and I'll sync up to get you a copy of the Mailman administrator password for it and a quick walk-through of the moderator interface (if you already moderate other Mailman lists, all the better!).
Moderation queue volume is typically on the order of twenty to fifty messages a day, most of which are spam of course, but one or two a day on average are legitimate messages either from non-subscribers with a question or sometimes slightly over the size limit because of attached logs. The spam and non-spam are pretty easy to tell apart if you've been around our community for a while: if the subject of the message has a recognizable topic tag in it or mentions the name of some OpenStack project then it's quite likely legitimate and can be approved. Spam on the other had usually either has a subject which is not in English (the required language for messages to this list) or is clearly someone selling something or running a scam. When in doubt though, you can quickly check the message body to be sure. I tend to spend at most 5 minutes a day looking through the moderation queue (and usually far less).
Longer term, I'd like to see anywhere between 3-5 admins for the openstack-discuss list. No need to coordinate workload or vacations that way, we can just each check the queue when we think about it and that should be plenty often. Also while keeping on top of the moderation queue is the primary need, it would be great for these folks to know/learn a bit about how Mailman mailing lists are configured and how to troubleshoot them from the WebUI and message headers. Better still, if anyone wants to get even more involved, the OpenDev sysadmins would always welcome new recruits willing to help manage and run our mailing list servers and our infrastructure overall, I'm happy to make introductions!
On 15/12/2019 17:05, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
This is a long-overdue request. It's been more than a year since we combined openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-ops, openstack-sigs, openstack-tc and a number of other lower-traffic mailing lists into this new openstack-discuss mailing list. In that time, I've been serving as the sole administrator and moderator for the combined list. As I'm about to take an extended vacation away from regular Internet access for the first time since the list migration, I will be unable to check the moderation queue on a daily basis, and so would appreciate a bit of help from some of you.
If there's anyone interested in helping out as additional administrators for the openstack-discuss mailing list, please reply to this message on-list (so other subscribers know who is volunteering) and I'll help bring you up to speed. In the immediate term I need at least one person willing to check the moderation queue a few times in the second half of December while I'm unavailable (daily would be awesome but a couple times a week is probably fine really). If you're expecting to be around and able to help with that, please respond on Monday or Tuesday of this week and I'll sync up to get you a copy of the Mailman administrator password for it and a quick walk-through of the moderator interface (if you already moderate other Mailman lists, all the better!).
Moderation queue volume is typically on the order of twenty to fifty messages a day, most of which are spam of course, but one or two a day on average are legitimate messages either from non-subscribers with a question or sometimes slightly over the size limit because of attached logs. The spam and non-spam are pretty easy to tell apart if you've been around our community for a while: if the subject of the message has a recognizable topic tag in it or mentions the name of some OpenStack project then it's quite likely legitimate and can be approved. Spam on the other had usually either has a subject which is not in English (the required language for messages to this list) or is clearly someone selling something or running a scam. When in doubt though, you can quickly check the message body to be sure. I tend to spend at most 5 minutes a day looking through the moderation queue (and usually far less).
Longer term, I'd like to see anywhere between 3-5 admins for the openstack-discuss list. No need to coordinate workload or vacations that way, we can just each check the queue when we think about it and that should be plenty often. Also while keeping on top of the moderation queue is the primary need, it would be great for these folks to know/learn a bit about how Mailman mailing lists are configured and how to troubleshoot them from the WebUI and message headers. Better still, if anyone wants to get even more involved, the OpenDev sysadmins would always welcome new recruits willing to help manage and run our mailing list servers and our infrastructure overall, I'm happy to make introductions!
Definitely something I would be able to add to my morning routine - if we still need people sign me up :) - Graham
Longer term, I'd like to see anywhere between 3-5 admins for the openstack-discuss list. No need to coordinate workload or vacations that way, we can just each check the queue when we think about it and that should be plenty often. Also while keeping on top of the moderation queue is the primary need, it would be great for these folks to know/learn a bit about how Mailman mailing lists are configured and how to troubleshoot them from the WebUI and message headers. Better still, if anyone wants to get even more involved, the OpenDev sysadmins would always welcome new recruits willing to help manage and run our mailing list servers and our infrastructure overall, I'm happy to make introductions!
Definitely something I would be able to add to my morning routine - if we still need people sign me up :)
- Graham
Same for me. Sean
Hi Jeremy, I can also help out. Michael On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 9:09 AM Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> wrote:
This is a long-overdue request. It's been more than a year since we combined openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-ops, openstack-sigs, openstack-tc and a number of other lower-traffic mailing lists into this new openstack-discuss mailing list. In that time, I've been serving as the sole administrator and moderator for the combined list. As I'm about to take an extended vacation away from regular Internet access for the first time since the list migration, I will be unable to check the moderation queue on a daily basis, and so would appreciate a bit of help from some of you.
If there's anyone interested in helping out as additional administrators for the openstack-discuss mailing list, please reply to this message on-list (so other subscribers know who is volunteering) and I'll help bring you up to speed. In the immediate term I need at least one person willing to check the moderation queue a few times in the second half of December while I'm unavailable (daily would be awesome but a couple times a week is probably fine really). If you're expecting to be around and able to help with that, please respond on Monday or Tuesday of this week and I'll sync up to get you a copy of the Mailman administrator password for it and a quick walk-through of the moderator interface (if you already moderate other Mailman lists, all the better!).
Moderation queue volume is typically on the order of twenty to fifty messages a day, most of which are spam of course, but one or two a day on average are legitimate messages either from non-subscribers with a question or sometimes slightly over the size limit because of attached logs. The spam and non-spam are pretty easy to tell apart if you've been around our community for a while: if the subject of the message has a recognizable topic tag in it or mentions the name of some OpenStack project then it's quite likely legitimate and can be approved. Spam on the other had usually either has a subject which is not in English (the required language for messages to this list) or is clearly someone selling something or running a scam. When in doubt though, you can quickly check the message body to be sure. I tend to spend at most 5 minutes a day looking through the moderation queue (and usually far less).
Longer term, I'd like to see anywhere between 3-5 admins for the openstack-discuss list. No need to coordinate workload or vacations that way, we can just each check the queue when we think about it and that should be plenty often. Also while keeping on top of the moderation queue is the primary need, it would be great for these folks to know/learn a bit about how Mailman mailing lists are configured and how to troubleshoot them from the WebUI and message headers. Better still, if anyone wants to get even more involved, the OpenDev sysadmins would always welcome new recruits willing to help manage and run our mailing list servers and our infrastructure overall, I'm happy to make introductions! -- Jeremy Stanley
On 2019-12-15 17:05:13 +0000 (+0000), Jeremy Stanley wrote: [...]
If there's anyone interested in helping out as additional administrators for the openstack-discuss mailing list, please reply to this message on-list (so other subscribers know who is volunteering) and I'll help bring you up to speed. [...]
The outpouring of volunteers took me by (pleasant!) surprise. I'm going to follow up privately with Radosław Piliszek, Florian Rommel, and Chris MacNaughton to provide them with further details and prepare them for the coming two weeks that I'll be away from my keyboard. A huge thanks as well to Slawek Kaplonski, Graham Hayes, Sean McGinnis, and Michael Johnson. In an effort not to further overload our existing community leaders, do you mind if I keep you on the reserve bench in case we need additional openstack-discuss list admins in the future? -- Jeremy Stanley
The outpouring of volunteers took me by (pleasant!) surprise. I'm going to follow up privately with Radosław Piliszek, Florian Rommel, and Chris MacNaughton to provide them with further details and prepare them for the coming two weeks that I'll be away from my keyboard.
A huge thanks as well to Slawek Kaplonski, Graham Hayes, Sean McGinnis, and Michael Johnson. In an effort not to further overload our existing community leaders, do you mind if I keep you on the reserve bench in case we need additional openstack-discuss list admins in the future? -- Jeremy Stanley
That works for me. Just let me know if any help is needed down the line. Sean
Hi,
On 17 Dec 2019, at 14:40, Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> wrote:
On 2019-12-15 17:05:13 +0000 (+0000), Jeremy Stanley wrote: [...]
If there's anyone interested in helping out as additional administrators for the openstack-discuss mailing list, please reply to this message on-list (so other subscribers know who is volunteering) and I'll help bring you up to speed. [...]
The outpouring of volunteers took me by (pleasant!) surprise. I'm going to follow up privately with Radosław Piliszek, Florian Rommel, and Chris MacNaughton to provide them with further details and prepare them for the coming two weeks that I'll be away from my keyboard.
A huge thanks as well to Slawek Kaplonski, Graham Hayes, Sean McGinnis, and Michael Johnson. In an effort not to further overload our existing community leaders, do you mind if I keep you on the reserve bench in case we need additional openstack-discuss list admins in the future?
Sure. It’s fine for me :)
-- Jeremy Stanley
— Slawek Kaplonski Senior software engineer Red Hat
Sounds good. Michael On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 7:45 AM Slawek Kaplonski <skaplons@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi,
On 17 Dec 2019, at 14:40, Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> wrote:
On 2019-12-15 17:05:13 +0000 (+0000), Jeremy Stanley wrote: [...]
If there's anyone interested in helping out as additional administrators for the openstack-discuss mailing list, please reply to this message on-list (so other subscribers know who is volunteering) and I'll help bring you up to speed. [...]
The outpouring of volunteers took me by (pleasant!) surprise. I'm going to follow up privately with Radosław Piliszek, Florian Rommel, and Chris MacNaughton to provide them with further details and prepare them for the coming two weeks that I'll be away from my keyboard.
A huge thanks as well to Slawek Kaplonski, Graham Hayes, Sean McGinnis, and Michael Johnson. In an effort not to further overload our existing community leaders, do you mind if I keep you on the reserve bench in case we need additional openstack-discuss list admins in the future?
Sure. It’s fine for me :)
-- Jeremy Stanley
— Slawek Kaplonski Senior software engineer Red Hat
On 17/12/2019 13:40, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
On 2019-12-15 17:05:13 +0000 (+0000), Jeremy Stanley wrote: [...]
If there's anyone interested in helping out as additional administrators for the openstack-discuss mailing list, please reply to this message on-list (so other subscribers know who is volunteering) and I'll help bring you up to speed. [...]
The outpouring of volunteers took me by (pleasant!) surprise. I'm going to follow up privately with Radosław Piliszek, Florian Rommel, and Chris MacNaughton to provide them with further details and prepare them for the coming two weeks that I'll be away from my keyboard.
A huge thanks as well to Slawek Kaplonski, Graham Hayes, Sean McGinnis, and Michael Johnson. In an effort not to further overload our existing community leaders, do you mind if I keep you on the reserve bench in case we need additional openstack-discuss list admins in the future?
Please do! - Graham
While I understand the reasoning behind the decision, me being me I must throw in my 2 cents: I think you have chosen 3 folks in much the same timezone. I might be mistaken but based on knowing myself and mail domains of others I expect we are all in timezones GMT+1/+2 It might be handy to have someone in timezones more suited for China and USA as well. :-) -yoctozepto wt., 17 gru 2019 o 14:49 Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> napisał(a):
On 2019-12-15 17:05:13 +0000 (+0000), Jeremy Stanley wrote: [...]
If there's anyone interested in helping out as additional administrators for the openstack-discuss mailing list, please reply to this message on-list (so other subscribers know who is volunteering) and I'll help bring you up to speed. [...]
The outpouring of volunteers took me by (pleasant!) surprise. I'm going to follow up privately with Radosław Piliszek, Florian Rommel, and Chris MacNaughton to provide them with further details and prepare them for the coming two weeks that I'll be away from my keyboard.
A huge thanks as well to Slawek Kaplonski, Graham Hayes, Sean McGinnis, and Michael Johnson. In an effort not to further overload our existing community leaders, do you mind if I keep you on the reserve bench in case we need additional openstack-discuss list admins in the future? -- Jeremy Stanley
On 2019-12-17 20:17:04 +0100 (+0100), Radosław Piliszek wrote:
While I understand the reasoning behind the decision, me being me I must throw in my 2 cents: I think you have chosen 3 folks in much the same timezone. I might be mistaken but based on knowing myself and mail domains of others I expect we are all in timezones GMT+1/+2 It might be handy to have someone in timezones more suited for China and USA as well. :-) [...]
It can't hurt to add more folks, but so far we've gotten by for over a year with one moderator so having several in similar timezones to start out shouldn't be much of a regression. I tend to only look at the queue once or maybe twice a day anyway, at fairly random times, so timezone coverage hasn't seemed crucial for this as I've received no complaints yet about anything awaiting moderation. The greater concern is making sure there's someone around to look at it occasionally when others are on extended absence. The notifications senders get back when a message lands in moderation tends to be self-explanatory, and tells them that they can subscribe or trim the size of their message and then try again (and hopefully also cancel the earlier one) if it's urgent and they don't want to wait for a moderator to approve the previous attempt. In a couple of weeks I'll be back on duty during Americas daylight hours too, so maybe looking for a volunteer in an APAC timezone makes sense after the first of the year? It doesn't seem particularly urgent, but it's a fine suggestion. Thanks again! -- Jeremy Stanley
participants (8)
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Chris MacNaughton
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Florian Rommel
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Graham Hayes
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Jeremy Stanley
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Michael Johnson
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Radosław Piliszek
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Sean McGinnis
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Slawek Kaplonski