[ironic] [infra] Cleaning up old IPA images from tarballs.o.o
Hi all,
I would like to do a clean-up of old or wrongly created IPA images on the tarballs site. Before I do that, could you please check the proposed list to make sure we don't remove something we expect to be used?
The list is https://paste.opendev.org/show/btDps0HFoYG9TKMmv1LB/
Dmitry
It's good that we get these out of the way of folks looking for modern images. I'm on board.
Thanks, Jay Faulkner Ironic PTL TC Member
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 5:29 AM Dmitry Tantsur dtantsur@protonmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to do a clean-up of old or wrongly created IPA images on the tarballs site. Before I do that, could you please check the proposed list to make sure we don't remove something we expect to be used?
The list is https://paste.opendev.org/show/btDps0HFoYG9TKMmv1LB/
Dmitry
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023, at 8:40 AM, Jay Faulkner wrote:
It's good that we get these out of the way of folks looking for modern images. I'm on board.
I'm not familiar enough with IPA to know the answers to these questions, but I think they play an important role in the decision making here.
Can a user use the latest version of IPA with an old deployment of Ironic? If so why do we bother to publish a bunch of version and distro specific images? You should be able to keep an up to date image published that users find and use?
If the versions do matter then you should be very careful to avoid deleting images that a user may need to run with their version of Ironic.
Thanks, Jay Faulkner Ironic PTL TC Member
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 5:29 AM Dmitry Tantsur dtantsur@protonmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to do a clean-up of old or wrongly created IPA images on the tarballs site. Before I do that, could you please check the proposed list to make sure we don't remove something we expect to be used?
The list is https://paste.opendev.org/show/btDps0HFoYG9TKMmv1LB/
Dmitry
The first half of the posted list are the ramdisk artifacts corresponding to now-retired bugfix branches. I could see an argument being made that we should continue providing those deliverables, as we do on PyPI -- I am OK with deleting them even with that in mind, as they contain massively out of date software (beyond IPA) that is likely unfit for running on production servers anymore. These are potential targets for movement to a deprecated location instead of deletion, if we feel we should continue providing them.
The second half of the list are extra dangerous; they are advertised as builds from "master" branch, but they are very old and out of date due to us no longer creating images for those distributions or using those tools anymore. The CoreOS images mentioned are from 2016, to put this in perspective. These should be deleted IMO, even if we find a softer way for the retired bugfix branch ramdisks.
To be frank, if someone *is* consuming these old images, and deleting them forced them to make a support contact with upstream, it'd likely end up with a better solution for them overall than running years-old software on their bare metal.
-- Jay Faulkner Ironic PTL TC Member
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 9:32 AM Clark Boylan cboylan@sapwetik.org wrote:
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023, at 8:40 AM, Jay Faulkner wrote:
It's good that we get these out of the way of folks looking for modern images. I'm on board.
I'm not familiar enough with IPA to know the answers to these questions, but I think they play an important role in the decision making here.
Can a user use the latest version of IPA with an old deployment of Ironic? If so why do we bother to publish a bunch of version and distro specific images? You should be able to keep an up to date image published that users find and use?
If the versions do matter then you should be very careful to avoid deleting images that a user may need to run with their version of Ironic.
Thanks, Jay Faulkner Ironic PTL TC Member
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 5:29 AM Dmitry Tantsur dtantsur@protonmail.com
wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to do a clean-up of old or wrongly created IPA images on the tarballs site. Before I do that, could you please check the proposed list to make sure we don't remove something we expect to be used?
The list is https://paste.opendev.org/show/btDps0HFoYG9TKMmv1LB/
Dmitry
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Clark Boylan
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Dmitry Tantsur
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Jay Faulkner