[TC] New Office Hour Plans
Hello! After taking a look at the poll results, Mohammed and I have two proposed plans for office hours: Plan A: Two office hours instead of three. This gives us slightly more coverage than one office hour without overextending ourselves to cover three office hours. Mohammed and I were thinking that one of the reasons why three office hours wasn't working was that it was kind of a big time commitment and TC members could easily rationalize not going to ones later in the week if they had already attended one earlier in the week. The two times that enable most TC members to attend at least one, if not both, would be Monday @14:00 UTC (TC members available: Belmiro, Rico, Kristi, Jay, Mohammed, myself, and Nate + non members) and Wednesday @ 15:00 UTC (TC members available: Rico, Kristi, Jay, Mohammed, myself, Ghanshyam, and Nate + non members). Plan B: Move to a single office hour on Wednesday @ 15:00 UTC (TC members available: Rico, Kristi, Jay, Mohammed, myself, Ghanshyam, and Nate + non members). Having only one office hour gives it more weight and importance and that should hopefully encourage more attendance from both community members and TC members alike. I guess Plan C is to go ahead with Plan A and then if we don't see activity during the Monday time slot, to reduce down to one office hour and go with Plan B. Please check out the patches Mohammed posted [1][2] and vote on what you'd prefer! -Kendall (diablo_rojo) [1] Dual Office Hour: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745201/ [2] Single Office Hour: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745200/
---- On Thu, 06 Aug 2020 19:00:13 -0500 Kendall Nelson <kennelson11@gmail.com> wrote ----
Hello! After taking a look at the poll results, Mohammed and I have two proposed plans for office hours: Plan A: Two office hours instead of three. This gives us slightly more coverage than one office hour without overextending ourselves to cover three office hours. Mohammed and I were thinking that one of the reasons why three office hours wasn't working was that it was kind of a big time commitment and TC members could easily rationalize not going to ones later in the week if they had already attended one earlier in the week. The two times that enable most TC members to attend at least one, if not both, would be Monday @14:00 UTC (TC members available: Belmiro, Rico, Kristi, Jay, Mohammed, myself, and Nate + non members) and Wednesday @ 15:00 UTC (TC members available: Rico, Kristi, Jay, Mohammed, myself, Ghanshyam, and Nate + non members). Plan B: Move to a single office hour on Wednesday @ 15:00 UTC (TC members available: Rico, Kristi, Jay, Mohammed, myself, Ghanshyam, and Nate + non members). Having only one office hour gives it more weight and importance and that should hopefully encourage more attendance from both community members and TC members alike.
Thanks Kendal for following up on office hours plan. The idea of having multiple office hours was to cover TC availability across different TZ. Even Asia TZ office hours might not have many TC members available but still, someone to address/ack the issues and bring it to TC when most of the members are available. There was no expectation for all TC members to be present in all three office hours so all office hours being inactive might be due to some other reason not due to *many office hours*. Thursday office hour was most TC available one which is not the case anymore. I MO, we should consider the 'covering most of TZ (as much we can) for TC-availability' so in first option we can move either of the office hour in different TZ. I still in favor of moving to weekly TC meeting (in alternate TZ or so) than office hours but I am ok to give office hours a another try with new time. -gmann
I guess Plan C is to go ahead with Plan A and then if we don't see activity during the Monday time slot, to reduce down to one office hour and go with Plan B. Please check out the patches Mohammed posted [1][2] and vote on what you'd prefer! -Kendall (diablo_rojo) [1] Dual Office Hour: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745201/[2] Single Office Hour: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745200/
On 8/7/2020 8:33 AM, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
---- On Thu, 06 Aug 2020 19:00:13 -0500 Kendall Nelson <kennelson11@gmail.com> wrote ----
Hello! After taking a look at the poll results, Mohammed and I have two proposed plans for office hours: Plan A: Two office hours instead of three. This gives us slightly more coverage than one office hour without overextending ourselves to cover three office hours. Mohammed and I were thinking that one of the reasons why three office hours wasn't working was that it was kind of a big time commitment and TC members could easily rationalize not going to ones later in the week if they had already attended one earlier in the week. The two times that enable most TC members to attend at least one, if not both, would be Monday @14:00 UTC (TC members available: Belmiro, Rico, Kristi, Jay, Mohammed, myself, and Nate + non members) and Wednesday @ 15:00 UTC (TC members available: Rico, Kristi, Jay, Mohammed, myself, Ghanshyam, and Nate + non members). Plan B: Move to a single office hour on Wednesday @ 15:00 UTC (TC members available: Rico, Kristi, Jay, Mohammed, myself, Ghanshyam, and Nate + non members). Having only one office hour gives it more weight and importance and that should hopefully encourage more attendance from both community members and TC members alike.
Thanks Kendal for following up on office hours plan.
The idea of having multiple office hours was to cover TC availability across different TZ. Even Asia TZ office hours might not have many TC members available but still, someone to address/ack the issues and bring it to TC when most of the members are available. There was no expectation for all TC members to be present in all three office hours so all office hours being inactive might be due to some other reason not due to *many office hours*.
Thursday office hour was most TC available one which is not the case anymore.
I MO, we should consider the 'covering most of TZ (as much we can) for TC-availability' so in first option we can move either of the office hour in different TZ.
I think that Gmann makes a good point here. If we are going to have multiple office hours one should be in an AP timezone. Was there a second time where the most people were in the AP timeframe were available? So, reduce to two office hours and try to cover both sides of the world? Jay
I still in favor of moving to weekly TC meeting (in alternate TZ or so) than office hours but I am ok to give office hours a another try with new time.
-gmann
I guess Plan C is to go ahead with Plan A and then if we don't see activity during the Monday time slot, to reduce down to one office hour and go with Plan B. Please check out the patches Mohammed posted [1][2] and vote on what you'd prefer! -Kendall (diablo_rojo) [1] Dual Office Hour: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745201/[2] Single Office Hour: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745200/
On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 9:37 AM Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com> wrote:
---- On Thu, 06 Aug 2020 19:00:13 -0500 Kendall Nelson <kennelson11@gmail.com> wrote ----
Hello! After taking a look at the poll results, Mohammed and I have two proposed plans for office hours: Plan A: Two office hours instead of three. This gives us slightly more coverage than one office hour without overextending ourselves to cover three office hours. Mohammed and I were thinking that one of the reasons why three office hours wasn't working was that it was kind of a big time commitment and TC members could easily rationalize not going to ones later in the week if they had already attended one earlier in the week. The two times that enable most TC members to attend at least one, if not both, would be Monday @14:00 UTC (TC members available: Belmiro, Rico, Kristi, Jay, Mohammed, myself, and Nate + non members) and Wednesday @ 15:00 UTC (TC members available: Rico, Kristi, Jay, Mohammed, myself, Ghanshyam, and Nate + non members). Plan B: Move to a single office hour on Wednesday @ 15:00 UTC (TC members available: Rico, Kristi, Jay, Mohammed, myself, Ghanshyam, and Nate + non members). Having only one office hour gives it more weight and importance and that should hopefully encourage more attendance from both community members and TC members alike.
Thanks Kendal for following up on office hours plan.
The idea of having multiple office hours was to cover TC availability across different TZ. Even Asia TZ office hours might not have many TC members available but still, someone to address/ack the issues and bring it to TC when most of the members are available. There was no expectation for all TC members to be present in all three office hours so all office hours being inactive might be due to some other reason not due to *many office hours*.
I think if we limit the number of times, then more people can likely show up because it's a smaller commitment. The 2 office hours except Thursday are pretty much non-existant at that point
Thursday office hour was most TC available one which is not the case anymore.
The Wednesday was actually the time where we had 10 people mention they'd be available, 9 of them being TC members. I'm hoping that is the most successful time line
I MO, we should consider the 'covering most of TZ (as much we can) for TC-availability' so in first option we can move either of the office hour in different TZ.
I still in favor of moving to weekly TC meeting (in alternate TZ or so) than office hours but I am ok to give office hours a another try with new time.
I think given the commitment I see here, I am confident Wednesday should be successful: https://doodle.com/poll/q27t8pucq7b8xbme
-gmann
I guess Plan C is to go ahead with Plan A and then if we don't see activity during the Monday time slot, to reduce down to one office hour and go with Plan B. Please check out the patches Mohammed posted [1][2] and vote on what you'd prefer! -Kendall (diablo_rojo) [1] Dual Office Hour: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745201/[2] Single Office Hour: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745200/
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Ghanshyam Mann
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Jay Bryant
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Kendall Nelson
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Mohammed Naser