[tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack community support to the savedotorg campaign
Hey All, I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it was created to facilitate. [1] A lot of well known non profits have already joined, and as a community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support. What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use its voice on behalf of the entire foundation? - Graham 1 - https://savedotorg.org/
Graham Hayes wrote:
I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it was created to facilitate. [1]
A lot of well known non profits have already joined, and as a community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
It probably makes more sense (and has more weight) at the Foundation-level. -- Thierry Carrez
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <gr@ham.ie> wrote:
Hey All,
I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it was created to facilitate. [1]
A lot of well known non profits have already joined, and as a community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
- Graham
I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add their names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to the list of organizations. Sean
On 26/11/2019 14:14, Sean McGinnis wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <gr@ham.ie> wrote:
Hey All,
I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it was created to facilitate. [1]
A lot of well known non profits have already joined, and as a community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
- Graham
I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add their names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to the list of organizations.
Yeap - that is a good point - I would encourage people who agree with the petition to sign as individuals as well.
Sean
I agree with the OSF submitting on behalf of OpenStack and the other projects. I also like the idea of individuals signing as contributors. Amy Marrich (spotz)
On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <gr@ham.ie> wrote:
Hey All,
I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it was created to facilitate. [1]
A lot of well known non profits have already joined, and as a community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
- Graham
I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add their names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to the list of organizations.
Sean
From my reading of the situation, it’s a done deal. It seems like ICAAN just crammed it through. Is there new info out that could reverse it? Thanks, Jimmy
On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Amy <amy@demarco.com> wrote:
I agree with the OSF submitting on behalf of OpenStack and the other projects. I also like the idea of individuals signing as contributors.
Amy Marrich (spotz)
On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <gr@ham.ie> wrote:
Hey All,
I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it was created to facilitate. [1]
A lot of well known non profits have already joined, and as a community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
- Graham
I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add their names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to the list of organizations.
Sean
_______________________________________________ Foundation mailing list Foundation@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation
On 26/11/2019 16:16, Jimmy McArthur wrote:
From my reading of the situation, it’s a done deal. It seems like ICAAN just crammed it through. Is there new info out that could reverse it?
Thanks, Jimmy
My understanding is it looks bleak, but there is a chance to shame the owners into halting the sale. I think ICAAN can still block the same (until December 13th, 30 days after they were notified), and through pure poor marketing, and raising our voices, this could help convince the current owners of PIR (who is ISOC) to re-consider the idea.
On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Amy <amy@demarco.com> wrote:
I agree with the OSF submitting on behalf of OpenStack and the other projects. I also like the idea of individuals signing as contributors.
Amy Marrich (spotz)
On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <gr@ham.ie> wrote:
Hey All,
I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it was created to facilitate. [1]
A lot of well known non profits have already joined, and as a community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
- Graham
I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add their names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to the list of organizations.
Sean
_______________________________________________ Foundation mailing list Foundation@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation
Graham Hayes <mailto:gr@ham.ie> November 26, 2019 at 10:34 AM
My understanding is it looks bleak, but there is a chance to shame the owners into halting the sale.
I think ICAAN can still block the same (until December 13th, 30 days after they were notified), and through pure poor marketing, and raising our voices, this could help convince the current owners of PIR (who is ISOC) to re-consider the idea. Great news! Thanks for the clarification. I already added my name to
the list and definitely agree about the Foundation support. I'll raise it on our ML as well.
On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Amy<amy@demarco.com> wrote:
I agree with the OSF submitting on behalf of OpenStack and the other projects. I also like the idea of individuals signing as contributors.
Amy Marrich (spotz)
On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Sean McGinnis<sean.mcginnis@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes<gr@ham.ie> wrote:
Hey All,
I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it was created to facilitate. [1]
A lot of well known non profits have already joined, and as a community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
- Graham
I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add their names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to the list of organizations.
Sean
_______________________________________________ Foundation mailing list Foundation@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation
_______________________________________________ Foundation mailing list Foundation@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation Jimmy McArthur <mailto:jimmy@openstack.org> November 26, 2019 at 10:16 AM From my reading of the situation, it’s a done deal. It seems like ICAAN just crammed it through. Is there new info out that could reverse it?
Thanks, Jimmy
_______________________________________________ Foundation mailing list Foundation@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation Amy <mailto:amy@demarco.com> November 26, 2019 at 8:50 AM I agree with the OSF submitting on behalf of OpenStack and the other projects. I also like the idea of individuals signing as contributors.
Amy Marrich (spotz)
_______________________________________________ Foundation mailing list Foundation@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation
Hi, On 26 November 2019 15:14:29 CET, Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <gr@ham.ie> wrote:
[...] What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
- Graham
I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add their names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to the list of organizations.
+1 -- Kurt Garloff <kurt@garloff.de>, Cologne, Germany (Sent from Mobile with K9.)
participants (7)
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Amy
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Graham Hayes
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Jimmy McArthur
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Jimmy Mcarthur
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Kurt Garloff
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Sean McGinnis
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Thierry Carrez