Here is an update. The %{systemd_ordering} macro is proposed for lightening containers images and removing the systemd dependency for containers. Please see & try patches in the topic [0] for RDO, and [1][2][3][4][5] for generic Fedora 29 rpms. I'd very appreciate if anyone building Kolla containers for f29/(rhel8 yet?) could try these out as well. PS (somewhat internal facing but who cares): I wonder if we could see those changes catched up automagically for rhel8 repos as well?

I'm tracking systemd changes here [0],[1],[2], btw (if accepted, it should be working as of fedora28(or 29) I hope)

[0] https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/topic:base-container-reduction [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1654659 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1654672

[0] https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/topic:base-container-reduction [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1654659 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1654672 [3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1668688 [4] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1668687 [5] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1668678 -- Best regards, Bogdan Dobrelya, Irc #bogdando