[community/MLs] Measuring ML Success
Hi All - Over the last six months or so, we've had feedback from people that feel their questions die on the ML or that are missing ask.openstack.org. I don't think we should open up the ask.openstack.org can of worms, by any means. However, I wanted to find out if there was any software out there we could use to track metrics on which questions go unanswered on the ML. Everything I've found is very focused on email marketing, which is not what we're after. Would love to try to get some numbers on individuals that are trying to reach out to the ML, but just aren't getting through to anyone. Assuming we get that, I feel like it would be an easy next step to do a monthly or bi-monthly check to reach out to these potential new contributors. I realize our community is busy and people are, by and large, volunteering their time to answer these questions. But as hard as that is, it's also tough to pose new questions to a community you're unfamiliar with and then hear crickets. Open to other ideas/thoughts :) Cheers! Jimmy
Hi Jimmy, Stackalytics [0] currently tracks emails identifying and grouping them by author, company, module (with some success). To answer your challenge we'll need to add a grouping by thread, but still need some criteria to mark thread as possibly unanswered. E.g. threads having a single message or only messages from a single author, or if the last message in a thread contains a question mark. With no additional information marking thread as closed explicitly, all this will still be a guessing, producing candidates for unanswered threads. Thank you for bringing this up! [0] https://www.stackalytics.io/?metric=emails On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:48 PM Jimmy McArthur <jimmy@openstack.org> wrote:
Hi All -
Over the last six months or so, we've had feedback from people that feel their questions die on the ML or that are missing ask.openstack.org. I don't think we should open up the ask.openstack.org can of worms, by any means. However, I wanted to find out if there was any software out there we could use to track metrics on which questions go unanswered on the ML. Everything I've found is very focused on email marketing, which is not what we're after. Would love to try to get some numbers on individuals that are trying to reach out to the ML, but just aren't getting through to anyone.
Assuming we get that, I feel like it would be an easy next step to do a monthly or bi-monthly check to reach out to these potential new contributors. I realize our community is busy and people are, by and large, volunteering their time to answer these questions. But as hard as that is, it's also tough to pose new questions to a community you're unfamiliar with and then hear crickets.
Open to other ideas/thoughts :)
Cheers! Jimmy
Just an FYI, stackalytics hasn't updated since January, so it's not going to be a good, current, source of information. Michael On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:00 PM Andrii Ostapenko <anost1986@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jimmy,
Stackalytics [0] currently tracks emails identifying and grouping them by author, company, module (with some success). To answer your challenge we'll need to add a grouping by thread, but still need some criteria to mark thread as possibly unanswered. E.g. threads having a single message or only messages from a single author, or if the last message in a thread contains a question mark.
With no additional information marking thread as closed explicitly, all this will still be a guessing, producing candidates for unanswered threads.
Thank you for bringing this up!
[0] https://www.stackalytics.io/?metric=emails
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:48 PM Jimmy McArthur <jimmy@openstack.org> wrote:
Hi All -
Over the last six months or so, we've had feedback from people that feel their questions die on the ML or that are missing ask.openstack.org. I don't think we should open up the ask.openstack.org can of worms, by any means. However, I wanted to find out if there was any software out there we could use to track metrics on which questions go unanswered on the ML. Everything I've found is very focused on email marketing, which is not what we're after. Would love to try to get some numbers on individuals that are trying to reach out to the ML, but just aren't getting through to anyone.
Assuming we get that, I feel like it would be an easy next step to do a monthly or bi-monthly check to reach out to these potential new contributors. I realize our community is busy and people are, by and large, volunteering their time to answer these questions. But as hard as that is, it's also tough to pose new questions to a community you're unfamiliar with and then hear crickets.
Open to other ideas/thoughts :)
Cheers! Jimmy
Michael, https://www.stackalytics.io is updated daily and maintained. On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 6:55 PM Michael Johnson <johnsomor@gmail.com> wrote:
Just an FYI, stackalytics hasn't updated since January, so it's not going to be a good, current, source of information.
Michael
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:00 PM Andrii Ostapenko <anost1986@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jimmy,
Stackalytics [0] currently tracks emails identifying and grouping them by author, company, module (with some success). To answer your challenge we'll need to add a grouping by thread, but still need some criteria to mark thread as possibly unanswered. E.g. threads having a single message or only messages from a single author, or if the last message in a thread contains a question mark.
With no additional information marking thread as closed explicitly, all this will still be a guessing, producing candidates for unanswered threads.
Thank you for bringing this up!
[0] https://www.stackalytics.io/?metric=emails
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:48 PM Jimmy McArthur <jimmy@openstack.org> wrote:
Hi All -
Over the last six months or so, we've had feedback from people that feel their questions die on the ML or that are missing ask.openstack.org. I don't think we should open up the ask.openstack.org can of worms, by any means. However, I wanted to find out if there was any software out there we could use to track metrics on which questions go unanswered on the ML. Everything I've found is very focused on email marketing, which is not what we're after. Would love to try to get some numbers on individuals that are trying to reach out to the ML, but just aren't getting through to anyone.
Assuming we get that, I feel like it would be an easy next step to do a monthly or bi-monthly check to reach out to these potential new contributors. I realize our community is busy and people are, by and large, volunteering their time to answer these questions. But as hard as that is, it's also tough to pose new questions to a community you're unfamiliar with and then hear crickets.
Open to other ideas/thoughts :)
Cheers! Jimmy
Oh, nice. I missed the memo on the URL change. Thanks, Michael On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 5:08 PM Andrii Ostapenko <anost1986@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael,
https://www.stackalytics.io is updated daily and maintained.
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 6:55 PM Michael Johnson <johnsomor@gmail.com> wrote:
Just an FYI, stackalytics hasn't updated since January, so it's not going to be a good, current, source of information.
Michael
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:00 PM Andrii Ostapenko <anost1986@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jimmy,
Stackalytics [0] currently tracks emails identifying and grouping them by author, company, module (with some success). To answer your challenge we'll need to add a grouping by thread, but still need some criteria to mark thread as possibly unanswered. E.g. threads having a single message or only messages from a single author, or if the last message in a thread contains a question mark.
With no additional information marking thread as closed explicitly, all this will still be a guessing, producing candidates for unanswered threads.
Thank you for bringing this up!
[0] https://www.stackalytics.io/?metric=emails
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:48 PM Jimmy McArthur <jimmy@openstack.org> wrote:
Hi All -
Over the last six months or so, we've had feedback from people that feel their questions die on the ML or that are missing ask.openstack.org. I don't think we should open up the ask.openstack.org can of worms, by any means. However, I wanted to find out if there was any software out there we could use to track metrics on which questions go unanswered on the ML. Everything I've found is very focused on email marketing, which is not what we're after. Would love to try to get some numbers on individuals that are trying to reach out to the ML, but just aren't getting through to anyone.
Assuming we get that, I feel like it would be an easy next step to do a monthly or bi-monthly check to reach out to these potential new contributors. I realize our community is busy and people are, by and large, volunteering their time to answer these questions. But as hard as that is, it's also tough to pose new questions to a community you're unfamiliar with and then hear crickets.
Open to other ideas/thoughts :)
Cheers! Jimmy
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 01:17, Michael Johnson <johnsomor@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh, nice. I missed the memo on the URL change.
If stackalytics.com is less well maintained, should it be abandoned? Or redirect to stackalytics.io? Mark
Thanks, Michael
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 5:08 PM Andrii Ostapenko <anost1986@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael,
https://www.stackalytics.io is updated daily and maintained.
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 6:55 PM Michael Johnson <johnsomor@gmail.com> wrote:
Just an FYI, stackalytics hasn't updated since January, so it's not going to be a good, current, source of information.
Michael
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:00 PM Andrii Ostapenko <anost1986@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jimmy,
Stackalytics [0] currently tracks emails identifying and grouping them by author, company, module (with some success). To answer your challenge we'll need to add a grouping by thread, but still need some criteria to mark thread as possibly unanswered. E.g. threads having a single message or only messages from a single author, or if the last message in a thread contains a question mark.
With no additional information marking thread as closed explicitly, all this will still be a guessing, producing candidates for unanswered threads.
Thank you for bringing this up!
[0] https://www.stackalytics.io/?metric=emails
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:48 PM Jimmy McArthur <jimmy@openstack.org> wrote:
Hi All -
Over the last six months or so, we've had feedback from people that feel their questions die on the ML or that are missing ask.openstack.org. I don't think we should open up the ask.openstack.org can of worms, by any means. However, I wanted to find out if there was any software out there we could use to track metrics on which questions go unanswered on the ML. Everything I've found is very focused on email marketing, which is not what we're after. Would love to try to get some numbers on individuals that are trying to reach out to the ML, but just aren't getting through to anyone.
Assuming we get that, I feel like it would be an easy next step to do a monthly or bi-monthly check to reach out to these potential new contributors. I realize our community is busy and people are, by and large, volunteering their time to answer these questions. But as hard as that is, it's also tough to pose new questions to a community you're unfamiliar with and then hear crickets.
Open to other ideas/thoughts :)
Cheers! Jimmy
I feel like it should redirect? But if the .io site isn't what corresponds to the open source repo that exists in opendev, we need to make that very clear everywhere possible. -Kendall (diablo_rojo) On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 1:54 AM Mark Goddard <mark@stackhpc.com> wrote:
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 01:17, Michael Johnson <johnsomor@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh, nice. I missed the memo on the URL change.
If stackalytics.com is less well maintained, should it be abandoned? Or redirect to stackalytics.io? Mark
Thanks, Michael
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 5:08 PM Andrii Ostapenko <anost1986@gmail.com>
Michael,
https://www.stackalytics.io is updated daily and maintained.
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 6:55 PM Michael Johnson <johnsomor@gmail.com>
wrote:
Just an FYI, stackalytics hasn't updated since January, so it's not going to be a good, current, source of information.
Michael
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:00 PM Andrii Ostapenko <
anost1986@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jimmy,
Stackalytics [0] currently tracks emails identifying and grouping
by author, company, module (with some success). To answer your challenge we'll need to add a grouping by thread, but still need some criteria to mark thread as possibly unanswered. E.g. threads having a single message or only messages from a single author, or if the last message in a thread contains a question mark.
With no additional information marking thread as closed explicitly, all this will still be a guessing, producing candidates for unanswered threads.
Thank you for bringing this up!
[0] https://www.stackalytics.io/?metric=emails
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:48 PM Jimmy McArthur < jimmy@openstack.org> wrote:
Hi All -
Over the last six months or so, we've had feedback from people
Assuming we get that, I feel like it would be an easy next step
to do a monthly or bi-monthly check to reach out to these potential new contributors. I realize our community is busy and people are, by and large, volunteering their time to answer these questions. But as hard as
wrote: them that feel their questions die on the ML or that are missing ask.openstack.org. I don't think we should open up the ask.openstack.org can of worms, by any means. However, I wanted to find out if there was any software out there we could use to track metrics on which questions go unanswered on the ML. Everything I've found is very focused on email marketing, which is not what we're after. Would love to try to get some numbers on individuals that are trying to reach out to the ML, but just aren't getting through to anyone. that is, it's also tough to pose new questions to a community you're unfamiliar with and then hear crickets.
Open to other ideas/thoughts :)
Cheers! Jimmy
participants (5)
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Andrii Ostapenko
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Jimmy McArthur
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Kendall Nelson
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Mark Goddard
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Michael Johnson