so it looks like the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-train-5 etherpad has died like the 4 before it. attached is a offline copy i took near the end of ptg which should have the majoriy fo the content for those that are looking for it the downside is this is just a copy past i did in to a text file so i dont have any of the strike thouughs or autor info in it but all the #Aggree: and other notes we took should still be there. regards sean