[all] Important discussion about the OpenInfra Foundation's future
The OpenInfra Foundation's board of directors is considering a significant organizational change, and your feedback is critical to assist them in their decision. Please read this announcement on the foundation mailing list: https://lists.openinfra.org/archives/list/foundation@lists.openinfra.org/thr... You can follow up publicly on that list with any questions or input you have for the board and staff, or in one of the public feedback conference calls mentioned there, as well as privately to Jonathan Bryce or myself if you prefer to give feedback in confidence. Thanks as always for your interest in the future of our community! -- Jeremy Stanley -- Jeremy Stanley
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 9:03 AM Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> wrote:
The OpenInfra Foundation's board of directors is considering a significant organizational change, and your feedback is critical to assist them in their decision.
Please read this announcement on the foundation mailing list: https://lists.openinfra.org/archives/list/foundation@lists.openinfra.org/thr...
You can follow up publicly on that list with any questions or input you have for the board and staff, or in one of the public feedback conference calls mentioned there, as well as privately to Jonathan Bryce or myself if you prefer to give feedback in confidence.
Thanks as always for your interest in the future of our community!
Wow, this is indeed a significant change for the community, and the FAQs do address many concerns that popped up to my mind - especially the specifics around the community's philosophy and project governance. As a TC member, I was interested to see the impact on the TC and its ability to define and preserve the existing governance structures in OpenStack. I had a couple of tangential questions: The OpenStack community heavily relies on OpenDev infrastructure - i.e., the health of the Zuul project/community, the sponsoring cloud providers that allow us to run CI, publish releases and so on; and an important piece of this is the OpenDev Infra administrators on the Foundation staff. The foundation staff also assisted us in maintaining the OpenStack site, alongside many other peripheral things over the years. Will we have the same level of investment if we roll up into LF? What changes can we anticipate in the future? I see this line: "Over time, we anticipate some executive roles and responsibilities will expand as we collaborate across Linux Foundation projects and foundations." - are we able to think of examples of changes? Will joining LF allow us access to any other funding/sponsorship? The OpenInfra Foundation has opportunistically (and deliberately) supported formal paid internships, coordinated events and funded meetups. Is this expected to change?
-- Jeremy Stanley
-- Jeremy Stanley
On 2025-02-06 17:03:02 +0000 (+0000), Jeremy Stanley wrote:
The OpenInfra Foundation's board of directors is considering a significant organizational change, and your feedback is critical to assist them in their decision. [...]
And just as a reminder, please don't reply to the thread here on openstack-discuss, let's try to keep it attached to the main thread on the foundation mailing list: https://lists.openinfra.org/archives/list/foundation@lists.openinfra.org/thr... Cross-posting the discussion between multiple mailing lists will inevitably lead to fragmented conversation as people start selectively replying only to one or the other. -- Jeremy Stanley
For those who haven't been closely following the discussion on the foundation mailing list, draft governance documents are now available for the proposed Linux Foundation entity mapping, and two more public feedback calls on the topic have been scheduled. See the announcement here for details: https://lists.openinfra.org/archives/list/foundation@lists.openinfra.org/mes... Note that there was a typo in the URL for the draft documents, which should have been: https://board.openinfra.org/strategic-consideration/docs You can follow up publicly on the foundation list with any questions or input you have for the board and staff, or in one of the public feedback conference calls mentioned there, as well as privately to Jonathan Bryce or myself if you prefer to give feedback in confidence. Please DO NOT reply to this openstack-discuss mailing list post, we should try to keep public discussion on the foundation mailing list so that it doesn't get missed by the executive staff, board of directors, and broader OpenInfra Foundation membership. Thanks as always for your interest in the future of our community! -- Jeremy Stanley
On 2025-02-22 14:53:07 +0000 (+0000), Jeremy Stanley wrote: [...]
Note that there was a typo in the URL for the draft documents [...]
It looks like someone with write access to the board wiki has added a rewrite so that both versions of the URL work now. Thanks to whoever you are! -- Jeremy Stanley
Why in the charter document doesn't say anything about the work and budget to community efforts? Also, will our CoC and way to propose changes remain in the same way? And I mean 100% no ambiguity. I'm reading the wrong document? -- Alvaro Soto Note: My work hours may not be your work hours. Please do not feel the need to respond during a time that is not convenient for you. ---------------------------------------------------------- Great people talk about ideas, ordinary people talk about things, small people talk... about other people On Sat, Feb 22, 2025, 11:26 AM Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> wrote:
On 2025-02-22 14:53:07 +0000 (+0000), Jeremy Stanley wrote: [...]
Note that there was a typo in the URL for the draft documents [...]
It looks like someone with write access to the board wiki has added a rewrite so that both versions of the URL work now. Thanks to whoever you are! -- Jeremy Stanley
On 2025-02-22 11:54:33 -0600 (-0600), Alvaro Soto wrote:
Why in the charter document doesn't say anything about the work and budget to community efforts? Also, will our CoC and way to propose changes remain in the same way? And I mean 100% no ambiguity.
I'm reading the wrong document? [...]
Would you mind asking on the foundation@lists.openinfra.dev mailing list instead, where this topic is being discussed? You can find the thread here: https://lists.openinfra.org/archives/list/foundation@lists.openinfra.org/mes... -- Jeremy Stanley
On 2025-02-22 20:45:03 +0000 (+0000), Jeremy Stanley wrote:
On 2025-02-22 11:54:33 -0600 (-0600), Alvaro Soto wrote:
Why in the charter document doesn't say anything about the work and budget to community efforts? Also, will our CoC and way to propose changes remain in the same way? And I mean 100% no ambiguity.
I'm reading the wrong document? [...]
Would you mind asking on the foundation@lists.openinfra.dev mailing list instead, where this topic is being discussed? You can find the thread here:
https://lists.openinfra.org/archives/list/foundation@lists.openinfra.org/mes...
I've forwarded your questions to the foundation mailing list as of a few minutes ago: https://lists.openinfra.org/archives/list/foundation@lists.openinfra.org/mes... Please follow up there rather than on openstack-discuss. Thanks! -- Jeremy Stanley
On 2025-02-22 11:54:33 -0600 (-0600), Alvaro Soto wrote:
Why in the charter document doesn't say anything about the work and budget to community efforts?
Also, will our CoC and way to propose changes remain in the same way? And I mean 100% no ambiguity.
I'm reading the wrong document?
These questions have now been answered on the foundation mailing list: https://lists.openinfra.org/archives/list/foundation@lists.openinfra.org/mes... Please follow up there if you have any more. Thanks! -- Jeremy Stanley
On 2025-02-22 14:53:07 +0000 (+0000), Jeremy Stanley wrote: [...]
See the announcement here for details:
https://lists.openinfra.org/archives/list/foundation@lists.openinfra.org/mes...
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Please DO NOT reply to this openstack-discuss mailing list post, we should try to keep public discussion on the foundation mailing list so that it doesn't get missed by the executive staff, board of directors, and broader OpenInfra Foundation membership. [...]
Another friendly reminder: PLEASE DO NOT reply here on the openstack-discuss mailing list where you're reading my message, but rather to the foundation mailing list thread I linked: https://lists.openinfra.org/archives/list/foundation@lists.openinfra.org/mes... Apologies if this is confusing. I posted a heads up here in case people didn't notice the continued discussion on the foundation mailing list, but openstack-discuss is not the place to request answers about things that are being discussed on the foundation mailing list. Thanks! -- Jeremy Stanley
On 2025-02-06 17:03:02 +0000 (+0000), Jeremy Stanley wrote:
The OpenInfra Foundation's board of directors is considering a significant organizational change, and your feedback is critical to assist them in their decision. [...]
In case you missed it, just a heads up that results of the board's decisions in this matter have been posted to the foundation mailing list in a recap of yesterday's meeting: https://lists.openinfra.org/archives/list/foundation@lists.openinfra.org/mes... Expect wider publicity of the outcome in various places as the day unfolds. Thanks to everyone for the feedback you provided leading up to this important decision! -- Jeremy Stanley
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Alvaro Soto
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Goutham Pacha Ravi
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Jeremy Stanley
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Kees Meijs | Nefos