Hi, Nova has alternate meeting slots on Thursdays to try to cover contributors from different time zones. * 14:00 UTC * 21:00 UTC As I'm taking over the PTL role form Eric I need to figure out how to run the nova meetings. I cannot really run the UTC 21:00 as it is pretty late for me. (I will run the 14:00 UTC slot). I see different options: a) Somebody from the US side of the globe volunteers to run the 21:00 UTC slot. Please speak up if you would like to run it. I can help you with agenda refresh and technicalities if needed. b) Have only one meeting time, and move that to 16:00 UTC. In this case I will be able to run it most of the weeks. c) Do not have a dedicated meeting slot but switch to office hours. Here we also need to find a time slot. I think 16:00 UTC could work there as well. Please share your view! Any other proposal is very welcome. Cheers, gibi
On Mon, 2020-03-09 at 09:59 +0100, Balázs Gibizer wrote:
Hi,
Nova has alternate meeting slots on Thursdays to try to cover contributors from different time zones. * 14:00 UTC * 21:00 UTC
As I'm taking over the PTL role form Eric I need to figure out how to run the nova meetings. I cannot really run the UTC 21:00 as it is pretty late for me. (I will run the 14:00 UTC slot). I see different options:
a) Somebody from the US side of the globe volunteers to run the 21:00 UTC slot. Please speak up if you would like to run it. I can help you with agenda refresh and technicalities if needed.
b) Have only one meeting time, and move that to 16:00 UTC. In this case I will be able to run it most of the weeks.
From a European perspective, this is preferable for me since I could never attend the 21:00 UTC slot. I don't know how it works for the folks on the US west coast or in China though.
c) Do not have a dedicated meeting slot but switch to office hours. Here we also need to find a time slot. I think 16:00 UTC could work there as well.
Do you mean move all meetings to office hours or just the one in the US timezone? Personally, I'd like to have a regular meeting with an agenda at least every couple of weeks. Stephen
Please share your view! Any other proposal is very welcome.
Cheers, gibi
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:04, Stephen Finucane <stephenfin@redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2020-03-09 at 09:59 +0100, Balázs Gibizer wrote:
c) Do not have a dedicated meeting slot but switch to office hours. Here we also need to find a time slot. I think 16:00 UTC could work there as well.
Do you mean move all meetings to office hours or just the one in the US timezone? Personally, I'd like to have a regular meeting with an agenda at least every couple of weeks.
To clarify, I meant to stop having meetings and have office hours instead. But a mixed setup also works for me if there will be folks around on the nova channel at 21:00 UTC. gibi
On Mon, 2020-03-09 at 11:16 +0100, Balázs Gibizer wrote:
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:04, Stephen Finucane <stephenfin@redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2020-03-09 at 09:59 +0100, Balázs Gibizer wrote:
c) Do not have a dedicated meeting slot but switch to office hours. Here we also need to find a time slot. I think 16:00 UTC could work there as well.
Do you mean move all meetings to office hours or just the one in the US timezone? Personally, I'd like to have a regular meeting with an agenda at least every couple of weeks.
To clarify, I meant to stop having meetings and have office hours instead. But a mixed setup also works for me if there will be folks around on the nova channel at 21:00 UTC.
i would prefer to have the meeting or a mix rather then change to just office hours. i dont always rememebr to join the meeting unless there is a ping on the nova channel before but i generally am online for both slots. 16:00 UTC would be fine too but im not sure that would work for non eu/us folks.
gibi
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On Mon, 2020-03-09 at 11:16 +0100, Balázs Gibizer wrote:
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:04, Stephen Finucane <stephenfin@redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2020-03-09 at 09:59 +0100, Balázs Gibizer wrote:
c) Do not have a dedicated meeting slot but switch to office hours. Here we also need to find a time slot. I think 16:00 UTC could work there as well.
Do you mean move all meetings to office hours or just the one in the US timezone? Personally, I'd like to have a regular meeting with an agenda at least every couple of weeks.
To clarify, I meant to stop having meetings and have office hours instead. But a mixed setup also works for me if there will be folks around on the nova channel at 21:00 UTC.
i would prefer to have the meeting or a mix rather then change to just office hours. i dont always rememebr to join the meeting unless there is a ping on the nova channel before but i generally am online for both slots. 16:00 UTC would be fine too but im not sure that would work for non eu/us folks.
16:00 UTC works for me too. I agree to keep meeting as of now at least from the meeting content point of view which is more towards the status side. If we start discussing more technical things than status then it makes sense to move to office hours. -gmann
gibi
发件人: Stephen Finucane [mailto:stephenfin@redhat.com] 发送时间: 2020年3月9日 18:05 收件人: Balázs Gibizer <balazs.gibizer@est.tech>; OpenStack Discuss <openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org> 主题: [lists.openstack.org代发]Re: [nova] US meeting slot
On Mon, 2020-03-09 at 09:59 +0100, Balázs Gibizer wrote:
Hi,
Nova has alternate meeting slots on Thursdays to try to cover contributors from different time zones. * 14:00 UTC * 21:00 UTC
As I'm taking over the PTL role form Eric I need to figure out how to run the nova meetings. I cannot really run the UTC 21:00 as it is pretty late for me. (I will run the 14:00 UTC slot). I see different options:
a) Somebody from the US side of the globe volunteers to run the 21:00 UTC slot. Please speak up if you would like to run it. I can help you with agenda refresh and technicalities if needed.
b) Have only one meeting time, and move that to 16:00 UTC. In this case I will be able to run it most of the weeks.
From a European perspective, this is preferable for me since I could never attend the 21:00 UTC slot. I don't know how it works for the folks on the US west coast or in China though.
To be honest, if 16:00UTC in China is 24:00 at night, if we attend to this meeting, then maybe the whole day will be listless and distressing. How about 10:30UTC or 11:00UTC? I know you are works at this time, but maybe dansmith will be still absent like the regular meeting at 21:00 UTC.
c) Do not have a dedicated meeting slot but switch to office hours. Here we also need to find a time slot. I think 16:00 UTC could work there as well.
Do you mean move all meetings to office hours or just the one in the US timezone? Personally, I'd like to have a regular meeting with an agenda at least every couple of weeks.
Agree.
Stephen
Please share your view! Any other proposal is very welcome.
Cheers, gibi
a) Somebody from the US side of the globe volunteers to run the 21:00 UTC slot. Please speak up if you would like to run it. I can help you with agenda refresh and technicalities if needed.
b) Have only one meeting time, and move that to 16:00 UTC. In this case I will be able to run it most of the weeks.
c) Do not have a dedicated meeting slot but switch to office hours. Here we also need to find a time slot. I think 16:00 UTC could work there as well.
I'd prefer 1600 to the 2100 actually, so that's fine with me. During DST I can make 1400, but no earlier. The 2100 meeting isn't very convenient for me, and very few people show up to it anymore anyway. I'd say it's not worth keeping that spot regardless. For a while now, I've felt that the meeting is unnecessary and overly repetitive. For that reason, I'd definitely be in favor of moving to office hours entirely (or as much as possible), although it sounds like most people aren't. --Dan
On Mon, 2020-03-09 at 07:10 -0700, Dan Smith wrote:
a) Somebody from the US side of the globe volunteers to run the 21:00 UTC slot. Please speak up if you would like to run it. I can help you with agenda refresh and technicalities if needed.
b) Have only one meeting time, and move that to 16:00 UTC. In this case I will be able to run it most of the weeks.
c) Do not have a dedicated meeting slot but switch to office hours. Here we also need to find a time slot. I think 16:00 UTC could work there as well.
I'd prefer 1600 to the 2100 actually, so that's fine with me. During DST I can make 1400, but no earlier. The 2100 meeting isn't very convenient for me, and very few people show up to it anymore anyway. I'd say it's not worth keeping that spot regardless.
For a while now, I've felt that the meeting is unnecessary and overly repetitive. For that reason, I'd definitely be in favor of moving to office hours entirely (or as much as possible), although it sounds like most people aren't. maybe we could try alternating. so like we alternate the time now alternate between office hours and meeting. every other week. that said im not that pushed either way. i do think the status updates are useful but that is most because if the updates were sent as emails i would just ignore them and since they are done the meeting when i attend i actually learn something. --Dan
On 3/9/20 07:10, Dan Smith wrote:
a) Somebody from the US side of the globe volunteers to run the 21:00 UTC slot. Please speak up if you would like to run it. I can help you with agenda refresh and technicalities if needed.
b) Have only one meeting time, and move that to 16:00 UTC. In this case I will be able to run it most of the weeks.
c) Do not have a dedicated meeting slot but switch to office hours. Here we also need to find a time slot. I think 16:00 UTC could work there as well.
I'd prefer 1600 to the 2100 actually, so that's fine with me. During DST I can make 1400, but no earlier. The 2100 meeting isn't very convenient for me, and very few people show up to it anymore anyway. I'd say it's not worth keeping that spot regardless.
+1 to the opinion that it's not worth keeping the 2100 slot regardless. I think there are too few attendees during that time to make the meeting useful. 1400 is usually too early for me but I'm OK with that -- I catch up on the 1400 meetings by reading the meeting IRC logs. And if I need input on a blueprint or spec, I can use the ML if I can't make the meeting. Cheers, -melanie
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 08:59, Balázs Gibizer <balazs.gibizer@est.tech> wrote:
Hi,
Nova has alternate meeting slots on Thursdays to try to cover contributors from different time zones. * 14:00 UTC * 21:00 UTC
As I'm taking over the PTL role form Eric I need to figure out how to run the nova meetings. I cannot really run the UTC 21:00 as it is pretty late for me. (I will run the 14:00 UTC slot). I see different options:
a) Somebody from the US side of the globe volunteers to run the 21:00 UTC slot. Please speak up if you would like to run it. I can help you with agenda refresh and technicalities if needed.
b) Have only one meeting time, and move that to 16:00 UTC. In this case I will be able to run it most of the weeks.
c) Do not have a dedicated meeting slot but switch to office hours. Here we also need to find a time slot. I think 16:00 UTC could work there as well.
Please share your view! Any other proposal is very welcome.
Thank you all for the feedback. I see a consensus forming around moving the weekly meeting slot both from 21:00 UTC and from 14:00 UTC to a single 16:00 UTC slot. I'm aware that this is bad for our contributors from China. To help with this pain I offer to be available on Thurday 8:00 - 9:00 UTC on #openstack-nova to discuss any issues that needs to be brought up on the 16:00 UTC meeting (almost like an office hour). Let's see how this works out and please give me feedback any time. // gibi
Cheers, gibi
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 10:49, Balázs Gibizer <balazs.gibizer@est.tech> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 08:59, Balázs Gibizer <balazs.gibizer@est.tech> wrote:
Hi,
Nova has alternate meeting slots on Thursdays to try to cover contributors from different time zones. * 14:00 UTC * 21:00 UTC
As I'm taking over the PTL role form Eric I need to figure out how to run the nova meetings. I cannot really run the UTC 21:00 as it is pretty late for me. (I will run the 14:00 UTC slot). I see different options:
a) Somebody from the US side of the globe volunteers to run the 21:00 UTC slot. Please speak up if you would like to run it. I can help you with agenda refresh and technicalities if needed.
b) Have only one meeting time, and move that to 16:00 UTC. In this case I will be able to run it most of the weeks.
c) Do not have a dedicated meeting slot but switch to office hours. Here we also need to find a time slot. I think 16:00 UTC could work there as well.
Please share your view! Any other proposal is very welcome.
Thank you all for the feedback. I see a consensus forming around moving the weekly meeting slot both from 21:00 UTC and from 14:00 UTC to a single 16:00 UTC slot. I'm aware that this is bad for our contributors from China. To help with this pain I offer to be available on Thurday 8:00 - 9:00 UTC on #openstack-nova to discuss any issues that needs to be brought up on the 16:00 UTC meeting (almost like an office hour). Let's see how this works out and please give me feedback any time.
Patch is up to re-schedule meeting https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712052 gibi
// gibi
Cheers, gibi
participants (7)
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Balázs Gibizer
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Brin Zhang(张百林)
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Dan Smith
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Ghanshyam Mann
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melanie witt
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Sean Mooney
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Stephen Finucane