The error message seems correct, I can't find am-osfecn-4025 either in the list of compute nodes. Can you check in the database if there's an active instance (or several) allocated to that compute node? In that case you would need to correct the allocation in order for the migration to work. Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

Sure:

https://jpst.it/2u3uh

These are the one where can't live migrate: xy-osfecn-40250 xy-osfecn-40281 xy-osfecn-40290 xy-osbecn-40073 xy-osfecn-40238

The compute service are disabled on these because we don't want anybody spawn a vm on these anymore so want to evacuate all vms.

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 3:26 PM To: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails

Hi,

can you share the output of these commands?

nova-manage cell_v2 list_hosts openstack compute service list

Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

...

Hi,

I have couple of compute nodes where the live migration fails with existing vms. When I quickly spawn a vm and try live migration it works so I assume shouldn't be a big problem with the compute node. However I have many existing vms where it fails with a servername not found.

/var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 ERROR nova.conductor.tasks.migrate [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] [instance: 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0] Unable to find record for source node servername on servername: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 WARNING nova.scheduler.utils [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] Failed to compute_task_migrate_server: Compute host servername could not be found.: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 WARNING nova.scheduler.utils [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] [instance: 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0] Setting instance to ACTIVE state.: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.672 227612 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] Exception during message handling: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host am-osfecn-4025

Tried with this command:

nova live-migration --block-migrate id.

Any idea?

Thank you.

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I think I found the issue, in the instances nova db in the node column the compute node name somehow changed to short hostname. It works fith FQDN but it doesn't work with short ☹ I hope I didn't mess-up anything if I change to FQDN to make it work. Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com --------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 11:19 AM To: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Cc: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: RE: Live migration fails Sorry, in the log I haven't commented out the servername ☹ it is xy-osfecn-40250 Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com --------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 5:37 PM To: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com> Cc: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails The error message seems correct, I can't find am-osfecn-4025 either in the list of compute nodes. Can you check in the database if there's an active instance (or several) allocated to that compute node? In that case you would need to correct the allocation in order for the migration to work. Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

Sure:

https://jpst.it/2u3uh

These are the one where can't live migrate: xy-osfecn-40250 xy-osfecn-40281 xy-osfecn-40290 xy-osbecn-40073 xy-osfecn-40238

The compute service are disabled on these because we don't want anybody spawn a vm on these anymore so want to evacuate all vms.

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 3:26 PM To: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails

Hi,

can you share the output of these commands?

nova-manage cell_v2 list_hosts openstack compute service list

Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

...

Hi,

I have couple of compute nodes where the live migration fails with existing vms. When I quickly spawn a vm and try live migration it works so I assume shouldn't be a big problem with the compute node. However I have many existing vms where it fails with a servername not found.

/var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 ERROR nova.conductor.tasks.migrate [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] [instance: 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0] Unable to find record for source node servername on servername: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 WARNING nova.scheduler.utils [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] Failed to compute_task_migrate_server: Compute host servername could not be found.: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 WARNING nova.scheduler.utils [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] [instance: 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0] Setting instance to ACTIVE state.: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.672 227612 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] Exception during message handling: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host am-osfecn-4025

Tried with this command:

nova live-migration --block-migrate id.

Any idea?

Thank you.

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On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 06:01 +0000, Eugen Block wrote:

Yeah, the column "node" has the FQDN in my DB, too, only "host" is the short name. The question is how did the short name get into the "node" column, but it will probably be difficult to get to the bottom of that. well by default we do not expect to have FQDNs in either filed. novas default for both is the hostname of the host which will be the short name not the fqdn unless you set an fqdn in /etc/hostname which is not generally the recommended pratice.

nova in general does nto support changing the hostname(/etc/hostname) of a host and you should avoid changeing the "host" value in the nova.conf too. changing these values can result in the creation fo addtional placment RP, compute service records and compute nodes and that can result in hard to fix situation wehre old vms are using one set of resouce and new vms are using the updated ones. so you should not modify either value in the db. did you perhaps specify a host when live migrating and just pass the wrong value or was the host selected by the scheduler.

Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

...

I think I found the issue, in the instances nova db in the node column the compute node name somehow changed to short hostname. It works fith FQDN but it doesn't work with short ☹ I hope I didn't mess-up anything if I change to FQDN to make it work.

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 11:19 AM To: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Cc: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: RE: Live migration fails

Sorry, in the log I haven't commented out the servername ☹ it is xy-osfecn-40250

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 5:37 PM To: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com> Cc: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails

The error message seems correct, I can't find am-osfecn-4025 either in the list of compute nodes. Can you check in the database if there's an active instance (or several) allocated to that compute node? In that case you would need to correct the allocation in order for the migration to work.

Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

...

Sure:

https://jpst.it/2u3uh

These are the one where can't live migrate: xy-osfecn-40250 xy-osfecn-40281 xy-osfecn-40290 xy-osbecn-40073 xy-osfecn-40238

The compute service are disabled on these because we don't want anybody spawn a vm on these anymore so want to evacuate all vms.

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 3:26 PM To: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails

Hi,

can you share the output of these commands?

nova-manage cell_v2 list_hosts openstack compute service list

Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

...

Hi,

I have couple of compute nodes where the live migration fails with existing vms. When I quickly spawn a vm and try live migration it works so I assume shouldn't be a big problem with the compute node. However I have many existing vms where it fails with a servername not found.

/var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 ERROR nova.conductor.tasks.migrate [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] [instance: 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0] Unable to find record for source node servername on servername: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 WARNING nova.scheduler.utils [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] Failed to compute_task_migrate_server: Compute host servername could not be found.: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 WARNING nova.scheduler.utils [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] [instance: 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0] Setting instance to ACTIVE state.: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.672 227612 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] Exception during message handling: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host am-osfecn-4025

Tried with this command:

nova live-migration --block-migrate id.

Any idea?

Thank you.

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Hi, We are trying to live migrate instances out from compute nodes and tries to automate but seems like can't really do, when the migration stuck. Let me explain the issue a bit: 1. We initiate live migration 2. live migration finished, the machine disappeared from the /var/lib/nova/instances/<server id> directory on the source server. 3. but when I query or see in horizon it stucked in migrating phase. We collected information like migration id and we try to force it but it is already finished, and can't force to complete. 4. I've restarted the nova service on the source node, it just make the machine to error phase, and the force not working also. 5. I changed the state from error to active but that one also can't force complete. What can I do to change the name of the compute node in the DB? How can I force it without touching the db? The goal is to automate the compute node draining as less as possible user intervention. Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com --------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 9:13 AM To: Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com>; openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: RE: Live migration fails My /etc/hostname has only short name. The nova.conf host value is also short name. The host has been selected by the scheduler: nova live-migration --block-migrate 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0 What has been changed is in the instances table in the nova DB the node field of the vm. So actually I don't change the compute host value just edited the VM value actually. Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com --------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 4:13 PM To: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 06:01 +0000, Eugen Block wrote:

Yeah, the column "node" has the FQDN in my DB, too, only "host" is the short name. The question is how did the short name get into the "node" column, but it will probably be difficult to get to the bottom of that. well by default we do not expect to have FQDNs in either filed. novas default for both is the hostname of the host which will be the short name not the fqdn unless you set an fqdn in /etc/hostname which is not generally the recommended pratice.

nova in general does nto support changing the hostname(/etc/hostname) of a host and you should avoid changeing the "host" value in the nova.conf too. changing these values can result in the creation fo addtional placment RP, compute service records and compute nodes and that can result in hard to fix situation wehre old vms are using one set of resouce and new vms are using the updated ones. so you should not modify either value in the db. did you perhaps specify a host when live migrating and just pass the wrong value or was the host selected by the scheduler.

Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

...

I think I found the issue, in the instances nova db in the node column the compute node name somehow changed to short hostname. It works fith FQDN but it doesn't work with short ☹ I hope I didn't mess-up anything if I change to FQDN to make it work.

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 11:19 AM To: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Cc: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: RE: Live migration fails

Sorry, in the log I haven't commented out the servername ☹ it is xy-osfecn-40250

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 5:37 PM To: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com> Cc: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails

The error message seems correct, I can't find am-osfecn-4025 either in the list of compute nodes. Can you check in the database if there's an active instance (or several) allocated to that compute node? In that case you would need to correct the allocation in order for the migration to work.

Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

...

Sure:

https://jpst.it/2u3uh

These are the one where can't live migrate: xy-osfecn-40250 xy-osfecn-40281 xy-osfecn-40290 xy-osbecn-40073 xy-osfecn-40238

The compute service are disabled on these because we don't want anybody spawn a vm on these anymore so want to evacuate all vms.

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 3:26 PM To: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails

Hi,

can you share the output of these commands?

nova-manage cell_v2 list_hosts openstack compute service list

Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

...

Hi,

I have couple of compute nodes where the live migration fails with existing vms. When I quickly spawn a vm and try live migration it works so I assume shouldn't be a big problem with the compute node. However I have many existing vms where it fails with a servername not found.

/var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 ERROR nova.conductor.tasks.migrate [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] [instance: 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0] Unable to find record for source node servername on servername: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 WARNING nova.scheduler.utils [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] Failed to compute_task_migrate_server: Compute host servername could not be found.: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 WARNING nova.scheduler.utils [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] [instance: 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0] Setting instance to ACTIVE state.: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.672 227612 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] Exception during message handling: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host am-osfecn-4025

Tried with this command:

nova live-migration --block-migrate id.

Any idea?

Thank you.

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On Tue, 2021-04-27 at 09:17 +0000, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:

Hi,

We are trying to live migrate instances out from compute nodes and tries to automate but seems like can't really do, when the migration stuck. Let me explain the issue a bit:

1. We initiate live migration 2. live migration finished, the machine disappeared from the /var/lib/nova/instances/<server id> directory on the source server. 3. but when I query or see in horizon it stucked in migrating phase. We collected information like migration id and we try to force it but it is already finished, and can't force to complete. 4. I've restarted the nova service on the source node, it just make the machine to error phase, and the force not working also. 5. I changed the state from error to active but that one also can't force complete.

What can I do to change the name of the compute node in the DB?

you should not change the name of the compute node in the db. we do not support changing the compute node name if it has instances on it. if you ment in the migration record you also should not change it as the resouces woudl not be claimed correctly.

How can I force it without touching the db?

i dont think you can fix it without touching the db. so if the vm is removed form the source node there are 2 things you chould check 1 is the instance.host set to the dest host where it is now running 2 if you look in the logs was there an error in post live migrate. baiscaly what i think was the most likely issue is that an operation in post live migrate failed before the migations recored was set to complete. the precondiotns for force complete are The server OS-EXT-STS:vm_state value must be active and the server OS-EXT-STS:task_state value must be migrating. https://docs.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=force-migration-complet... if the instance.host matches the host on which it is now rungin then you should be able to set the status and taskstate back to active/migrating respectivly. at which point you can force complete the migration. if the vm is running correctly on the destiatnion host and its host and the instance.host is set correctly it might just be simpler to updte the migration record to complete and ensure the task state is set to none on the instance. if the instace.host still has the source host but its running on the dest host then you should update it to refelct the correct host then mark the migration as complete. all of the above will require at least some db modifcations.

The goal is to automate the compute node draining as less as possible user intervention.

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 9:13 AM To: Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com>; openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: RE: Live migration fails

My /etc/hostname has only short name. The nova.conf host value is also short name. The host has been selected by the scheduler: nova live-migration --block-migrate 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0

What has been changed is in the instances table in the nova DB the node field of the vm. So actually I don't change the compute host value just edited the VM value actually.

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 4:13 PM To: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails

On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 06:01 +0000, Eugen Block wrote:

...

Yeah, the column "node" has the FQDN in my DB, too, only "host" is the short name. The question is how did the short name get into the "node" column, but it will probably be difficult to get to the bottom of that. well by default we do not expect to have FQDNs in either filed. novas default for both is the hostname of the host which will be the short name not the fqdn unless you set an fqdn in /etc/hostname which is not generally the recommended pratice.

nova in general does nto support changing the hostname(/etc/hostname) of a host and you should avoid changeing the "host" value in the nova.conf too.

changing these values can result in the creation fo addtional placment RP, compute service records and compute nodes and that can result in hard to fix situation wehre old vms are using one set of resouce and new vms are using the updated ones.

so you should not modify either value in the db.

did you perhaps specify a host when live migrating and just pass the wrong value or was the host selected by the scheduler.

...

Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

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I think I found the issue, in the instances nova db in the node column the compute node name somehow changed to short hostname. It works fith FQDN but it doesn't work with short ☹ I hope I didn't mess-up anything if I change to FQDN to make it work.

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 11:19 AM To: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Cc: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: RE: Live migration fails

Sorry, in the log I haven't commented out the servername ☹ it is xy-osfecn-40250

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 5:37 PM To: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com> Cc: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails

The error message seems correct, I can't find am-osfecn-4025 either in the list of compute nodes. Can you check in the database if there's an active instance (or several) allocated to that compute node? In that case you would need to correct the allocation in order for the migration to work.

Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

...

Sure:

https://jpst.it/2u3uh

These are the one where can't live migrate: xy-osfecn-40250 xy-osfecn-40281 xy-osfecn-40290 xy-osbecn-40073 xy-osfecn-40238

The compute service are disabled on these because we don't want anybody spawn a vm on these anymore so want to evacuate all vms.

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 3:26 PM To: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails

Hi,

can you share the output of these commands?

nova-manage cell_v2 list_hosts openstack compute service list

Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

...

Hi,

I have couple of compute nodes where the live migration fails with existing vms. When I quickly spawn a vm and try live migration it works so I assume shouldn't be a big problem with the compute node. However I have many existing vms where it fails with a servername not found.

/var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 ERROR nova.conductor.tasks.migrate [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] [instance: 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0] Unable to find record for source node servername on servername: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 WARNING nova.scheduler.utils [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] Failed to compute_task_migrate_server: Compute host servername could not be found.: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 WARNING nova.scheduler.utils [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] [instance: 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0] Setting instance to ACTIVE state.: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.672 227612 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] Exception during message handling: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host am-osfecn-4025

Tried with this command:

nova live-migration --block-migrate id.

Any idea?

Thank you.

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Plazed around a bit more, so additional comment to my previous mail: When you say: The server OS-EXT-STS:vm_state value must be active and the server OS-EXT-STS:task_state value must be migrating. This I can't achieve. So when I reset the state to active it changed the power state to running from migrating but the source host remains the old. And I think the power state can't be changed like the state: nova reset-state --active 34905d35-1100-47de-a7db-3e1b5e900b9d Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com --------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 10:36 AM To: Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com>; openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: RE: Live migration fails Hi, Answering your question: 1. no, still the old compute node name is in the list 2. This is the log about that machine ID on that day: https://justpaste.it/7usq5 Maybe this network client issue is the cause on the destination host? You can also see that the memory copy took too long and started many time from the beginning. You said you don't support changes in the db. Actually I change this value of a compute node that we are planning to drain and of course I try to avoid to touch. Also it is I think not the compute node entry in the db, it is in the instance table in the nova db. Have a look the screenshot of the entry please: https://i.ibb.co/WKB3sGM/Capture.png We are using the openstack-commands not the API calls but I guess the result is the same. When it was in active migrating state and we tried it we got this: 1. nova live-migration-force-complete 6b3c5ef1-293a-426d-89e5-230f59c2d06f 870 ERROR (BadRequest): Migration 870 state of instance 6b3c5ef1-293a-426d-89e5-230f59c2d06f is completed. Cannot force complete while the migration is in this state. (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-e409114b-c4ec-4f25-8ff0-d9dc34460bc9) 2. After I restarted on the source compute node the nova-compute service and it puts the machine to error state, however the vm is still running. nova live-migration-force-complete 6b3c5ef1-293a-426d-89e5-230f59c2d06f 870 ERROR (Conflict): Cannot 'force_complete' instance 6b3c5ef1-293a-426d-89e5-230f59c2d06f while it is in vm_state error (HTTP 409) (Request-ID: req-2f0a2fcd-62be-44ae-bafc-cac952a63c82) 3. After changed back to active and tried the migration, and I got this: nova live-migration-force-complete 6b3c5ef1-293a-426d-89e5-230f59c2d06f 870 ERROR (Conflict): Instance 6b3c5ef1-293a-426d-89e5-230f59c2d06f is in an invalid state for 'force_complete' (HTTP 409) (Request-ID: req-3d1631e9-973a-4549-a998-fb1d3d95572a) Just to summarize your options: 1. if the instance.host matches the host on which it is now rungin then you should be able to set the status and taskstate back to active/migrating respectivly. at which point you can force complete the migration. This is not our case unfortunately ☹ 2. if the vm is running correctly on the destiatnion host and its host and the instance.host is set correctly it might just be simpler to updte the migration record to complete and ensure the task state is set to none on the instance. Does it has to be done in the DB? Haven't really find option for this to update the migration record. Or you mean the force complete? 3. if the instace.host still has the source host but its running on the dest host then you should update it to refelct the correct host then mark the migration as complete. I guess it is the force complete also right? Change in the instance table the host and node and force complete? Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com --------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:54 PM To: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails On Tue, 2021-04-27 at 09:17 +0000, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:

Hi,

We are trying to live migrate instances out from compute nodes and tries to automate but seems like can't really do, when the migration stuck. Let me explain the issue a bit:

1. We initiate live migration 2. live migration finished, the machine disappeared from the /var/lib/nova/instances/<server id> directory on the source server. 3. but when I query or see in horizon it stucked in migrating phase. We collected information like migration id and we try to force it but it is already finished, and can't force to complete. 4. I've restarted the nova service on the source node, it just make the machine to error phase, and the force not working also. 5. I changed the state from error to active but that one also can't force complete.

What can I do to change the name of the compute node in the DB?

you should not change the name of the compute node in the db. we do not support changing the compute node name if it has instances on it. if you ment in the migration record you also should not change it as the resouces woudl not be claimed correctly.

How can I force it without touching the db?

i dont think you can fix it without touching the db. so if the vm is removed form the source node there are 2 things you chould check 1 is the instance.host set to the dest host where it is now running 2 if you look in the logs was there an error in post live migrate. baiscaly what i think was the most likely issue is that an operation in post live migrate failed before the migations recored was set to complete. the precondiotns for force complete are The server OS-EXT-STS:vm_state value must be active and the server OS-EXT-STS:task_state value must be migrating. https://docs.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=force-migration-complet... if the instance.host matches the host on which it is now rungin then you should be able to set the status and taskstate back to active/migrating respectivly. at which point you can force complete the migration. if the vm is running correctly on the destiatnion host and its host and the instance.host is set correctly it might just be simpler to updte the migration record to complete and ensure the task state is set to none on the instance. if the instace.host still has the source host but its running on the dest host then you should update it to refelct the correct host then mark the migration as complete. all of the above will require at least some db modifcations.

The goal is to automate the compute node draining as less as possible user intervention.

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 9:13 AM To: Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com>; openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: RE: Live migration fails

My /etc/hostname has only short name. The nova.conf host value is also short name. The host has been selected by the scheduler: nova live-migration --block-migrate 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0

What has been changed is in the instances table in the nova DB the node field of the vm. So actually I don't change the compute host value just edited the VM value actually.

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 4:13 PM To: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails

On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 06:01 +0000, Eugen Block wrote:

...

Yeah, the column "node" has the FQDN in my DB, too, only "host" is the short name. The question is how did the short name get into the "node" column, but it will probably be difficult to get to the bottom of that. well by default we do not expect to have FQDNs in either filed. novas default for both is the hostname of the host which will be the short name not the fqdn unless you set an fqdn in /etc/hostname which is not generally the recommended pratice.

nova in general does nto support changing the hostname(/etc/hostname) of a host and you should avoid changeing the "host" value in the nova.conf too.

changing these values can result in the creation fo addtional placment RP, compute service records and compute nodes and that can result in hard to fix situation wehre old vms are using one set of resouce and new vms are using the updated ones.

so you should not modify either value in the db.

did you perhaps specify a host when live migrating and just pass the wrong value or was the host selected by the scheduler.

...

Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

...

I think I found the issue, in the instances nova db in the node column the compute node name somehow changed to short hostname. It works fith FQDN but it doesn't work with short ☹ I hope I didn't mess-up anything if I change to FQDN to make it work.

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 11:19 AM To: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Cc: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: RE: Live migration fails

Sorry, in the log I haven't commented out the servername ☹ it is xy-osfecn-40250

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 5:37 PM To: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com> Cc: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails

The error message seems correct, I can't find am-osfecn-4025 either in the list of compute nodes. Can you check in the database if there's an active instance (or several) allocated to that compute node? In that case you would need to correct the allocation in order for the migration to work.

Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

...

Sure:

https://jpst.it/2u3uh

These are the one where can't live migrate: xy-osfecn-40250 xy-osfecn-40281 xy-osfecn-40290 xy-osbecn-40073 xy-osfecn-40238

The compute service are disabled on these because we don't want anybody spawn a vm on these anymore so want to evacuate all vms.

Istvan Szabo Senior Infrastructure Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Agoda Services Co., Ltd. e: istvan.szabo@agoda.com ---------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- From: Eugen Block <eblock@nde.ag> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 3:26 PM To: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: Live migration fails

Hi,

can you share the output of these commands?

nova-manage cell_v2 list_hosts openstack compute service list

Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com>:

...

Hi,

I have couple of compute nodes where the live migration fails with existing vms. When I quickly spawn a vm and try live migration it works so I assume shouldn't be a big problem with the compute node. However I have many existing vms where it fails with a servername not found.

/var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 ERROR nova.conductor.tasks.migrate [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] [instance: 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0] Unable to find record for source node servername on servername: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 WARNING nova.scheduler.utils [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] Failed to compute_task_migrate_server: Compute host servername could not be found.: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.605 227612 WARNING nova.scheduler.utils [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] [instance: 1517a2ac-3b51-4d8d-80b3-89a5614d1ae0] Setting instance to ACTIVE state.: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host servername could not be found. /var/log/nova/nova-conductor.log:2021-04-21 14:47:12.672 227612 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server [req-f4067a26-a233-4673-8c07-9a8a290980b0 dce35e6eceea4312bb0baa0510cef363 ca7e35079f4440c78bd9870724b9638b - default default] Exception during message handling: ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host am-osfecn-4025

Tried with this command:

nova live-migration --block-migrate id.

Any idea?

Thank you.

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On Tue, 2024-08-06 at 21:22 +0000, Jeremy Stanley wrote:

On 2024-08-06 21:12:25 +0100 (+0100), smooney@redhat.com wrote: [...]

...

no offence intended but was this email authored using an ai like chat gpt or similar.

this is a very generic response to an email thread form 2021 [...]

I saw something similar in another mailing list today. There's an emerging trend to post seemingly on-topic questions or answer existing questions and insert a URL to some site adjacent to specific keywords in order to generate a sort of "organic SEO" to fool search engines into ranking up specific results.

I'll delete the offending post and block the subscriber who sent it, but probably need to remove your post from the archive as well since you quoted the same URL in your reply.

ack on the deletion of my email. i was going to reach out to you separately on irc anyway to see if this was a one off or if there were similar mails i did not see like this. thanks fungi for keeping us in the loop. hopefully this is a one off and not a pattern that will become problematic to moderate.