[tc] Moving IRC meetings to project channels
Hello, In the guidance to PTLs for the freenode to OFTC migration, there was this guideline:
The TC is asking that projects take advantage of this time of change to consider moving project meetings from the #openstack-meeting* channels to their project channel.
I was surprised since it was the first time I heard about this suggested change. The project team guide [1] actually still states the following:
The OpenStack infrastructure team maintains a limited number of channels dedicated to meetings. While teams can hold meetings on their own team IRC channels, they are encouraged to use those common meeting channels to give their meeting some external exposure. The limited number of meeting channels encourages teams to spread their meetings around and reduce conflicts.
Is there any background regarding this proposed change? Not that I am against it in any way: I have participated in meetings in both kinds of channels and haven't really seen any difference. Thanks, Pierre Riteau (priteau) [1] https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/open-community.html#public-mee...
---- On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 15:52:20 -0500 Pierre Riteau <pierre@stackhpc.com> wrote ----
Hello,
In the guidance to PTLs for the freenode to OFTC migration, there was this guideline:
The TC is asking that projects take advantage of this time of change to consider moving project meetings from the #openstack-meeting* channels to their project channel.
I was surprised since it was the first time I heard about this suggested change. The project team guide [1] actually still states the following:
The OpenStack infrastructure team maintains a limited number of channels dedicated to meetings. While teams can hold meetings on their own team IRC channels, they are encouraged to use those common meeting channels to give their meeting some external exposure. The limited number of meeting channels encourages teams to spread their meetings around and reduce conflicts.
Is there any background regarding this proposed change? Not that I am against it in any way: I have participated in meetings in both kinds of channels and haven't really seen any difference.
Idea behind this is to avoid confusion over which channel has which project meeting. There are multiple meeting channel #openstack-meeting-3, #openstack-meeting-4, #openstack-meeting-5, #openstack-meeting-alt, #openstack-meeting and sometime it is difficult to remember which channel has which project meeting until you go and check the project doc/wiki page or so. Having meeting in channel itself avoid such confusion. We have been doing this for QA, TC since many year and it work perfectly. But this is project side choice, TC is suggesting this option. I will make project-team-guide changes to add this suggestion. -gmann
Thanks, Pierre Riteau (priteau)
[1] https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/open-community.html#public-mee...
On 2021-06-03 17:29:36 -0500 (-0500), Ghanshyam Mann wrote: [...]
Idea behind this is to avoid confusion over which channel has which project meeting. There are multiple meeting channel #openstack-meeting-3, #openstack-meeting-4, #openstack-meeting-5, #openstack-meeting-alt, #openstack-meeting and sometime it is difficult to remember which channel has which project meeting until you go and check the project doc/wiki page or so.
Having meeting in channel itself avoid such confusion. We have been doing this for QA, TC since many year and it work perfectly. [...]
The idea behind having meetings in common channels is that it reduces the number of channels people need to join if they just want to lurk the team meetings but not necessarily be in the team channels, it avoids people distracting the meeting with unrelated in-channel banter or noise from notification bots about things like change uploads to Gerrit, and it slightly decreases the chances that too many meetings get scheduled into the same timeslots. I also participate in some projects which do it that way and some which have their meetings in-channel. For the most part, meetings for smaller teams without a lot of overlap with other projects and low volumes of normal discussion in their channels seem to be happy with in-channel meetings. Large teams with a bunch of tendrils to and from other projects and lots of crosstalk in their channel tend to prefer the option of a separate meeting channel. Also there are no -4 and -5 meeting channels any longer, since at least a year if not more; we're down to just the other three you listed. -- Jeremy Stanley
participants (3)
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Ghanshyam Mann
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Jeremy Stanley
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Pierre Riteau