Hi all, we're using octavia of version zed and caught a case when it regularly creating 3 amphorae instead of 2. We have not had any amphorae for which of these LBs and I did failover for each of them: openstack loadbalancer amphora list --loadbalancer 70f98bfb-8045-4d4a-9729-d60b6e141dbf openstack loadbalancer failover 70f98bfb-8045-4d4a-9729-d60b6e141dbf openstack loadbalancer amphora list --loadbalancer 96223d34-6941-4bc5-881a-ddfd83070739 openstack loadbalancer failover 96223d34-6941-4bc5-881a-ddfd83070739 openstack loadbalancer amphora list --loadbalancer f9f859d0-2b31-449b-8723-700bb7f3f3f4 openstack loadbalancer failover f9f859d0-2b31-449b-8723-700bb7f3f3f4 then first backup amphorae was created pretty fast openstack loadbalancer amphora list --loadbalancer 70f98bfb-8045-4d4a-9729-d60b6e141dbf openstack loadbalancer amphora list --loadbalancer 96223d34-6941-4bc5-881a-ddfd83070739 openstack loadbalancer amphora list --loadbalancer f9f859d0-2b31-449b-8723-700bb7f3f3f4 +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+---------------+ | id | loadbalancer_id | status | role | lb_network_ip | ha_ip | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+---------------+ | 3dfa43cd-2719-487e-8ba2-8a4aa0fe7301 | 70f98bfb-8045-4d4a-9729-d60b6e141dbf | ALLOCATED | BACKUP | 10.94.64.112 | 10.210.73.197 | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+---------------+ +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+--------------+ | id | loadbalancer_id | status | role | lb_network_ip | ha_ip | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+--------------+ | b39472aa-04a0-42b8-8c09-4617ea1a0f33 | 96223d34-6941-4bc5-881a-ddfd83070739 | ALLOCATED | BACKUP | 10.94.64.232 | 10.210.64.32 | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+--------------+ +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+-------+ | id | loadbalancer_id | status | role | lb_network_ip | ha_ip | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+-------+ | 60af8e11-c6ad-45f0-8e07-1bcc4a477444 | f9f859d0-2b31-449b-8723-700bb7f3f3f4 | ALLOCATED | BACKUP | 10.94.64.74 | None | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+-------+ but then it started to create 2x Master's for each (!) of them (we can talk about lags, but not in case of 3x): openstack loadbalancer amphora list --loadbalancer 70f98bfb-8045-4d4a-9729-d60b6e141dbf openstack loadbalancer amphora list --loadbalancer 96223d34-6941-4bc5-881a-ddfd83070739 openstack loadbalancer amphora list --loadbalancer f9f859d0-2b31-449b-8723-700bb7f3f3f4 +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+---------------+ | id | loadbalancer_id | status | role | lb_network_ip | ha_ip | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+---------------+ | 3dfa43cd-2719-487e-8ba2-8a4aa0fe7301 | 70f98bfb-8045-4d4a-9729-d60b6e141dbf | ALLOCATED | BACKUP | 10.94.64.112 | 10.210.73.197 | | 3dd9bdb4-0dfe-4d77-b08f-02fbbffcd892 | 70f98bfb-8045-4d4a-9729-d60b6e141dbf | BOOTING | None | None | None | | ff6ec3de-6942-4978-9ea5-d793ff1fdbf8 | 70f98bfb-8045-4d4a-9729-d60b6e141dbf | BOOTING | None | None | None | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+---------------+ +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+--------------+ | id | loadbalancer_id | status | role | lb_network_ip | ha_ip | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+--------------+ | b39472aa-04a0-42b8-8c09-4617ea1a0f33 | 96223d34-6941-4bc5-881a-ddfd83070739 | ALLOCATED | BACKUP | 10.94.64.232 | 10.210.64.32 | | 9909b300-d266-4344-b6fc-edc4af651485 | 96223d34-6941-4bc5-881a-ddfd83070739 | BOOTING | None | None | None | | cc123c55-2953-425e-867e-f4057483bb09 | 96223d34-6941-4bc5-881a-ddfd83070739 | BOOTING | None | None | None | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+--------------+ +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+-------+ | id | loadbalancer_id | status | role | lb_network_ip | ha_ip | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+-------+ | 60af8e11-c6ad-45f0-8e07-1bcc4a477444 | f9f859d0-2b31-449b-8723-700bb7f3f3f4 | ALLOCATED | BACKUP | 10.94.64.74 | None | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+-------+ as a result we started to have 3x Master's for them openstack loadbalancer amphora list --loadbalancer 70f98bfb-8045-4d4a-9729-d60b6e141dbf openstack loadbalancer amphora list --loadbalancer 96223d34-6941-4bc5-881a-ddfd83070739 openstack loadbalancer amphora list --loadbalancer f9f859d0-2b31-449b-8723-700bb7f3f3f4 +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+---------------+ | id | loadbalancer_id | status | role | lb_network_ip | ha_ip | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+---------------+ | 3dfa43cd-2719-487e-8ba2-8a4aa0fe7301 | 70f98bfb-8045-4d4a-9729-d60b6e141dbf | ALLOCATED | BACKUP | 10.94.64.112 | 10.210.73.197 | | 3dd9bdb4-0dfe-4d77-b08f-02fbbffcd892 | 70f98bfb-8045-4d4a-9729-d60b6e141dbf | ALLOCATED | MASTER | 10.94.64.56 | 10.210.73.197 | | 14e8acfe-8510-4629-a583-53ba88f91eca | 70f98bfb-8045-4d4a-9729-d60b6e141dbf | ALLOCATED | MASTER | 10.94.64.30 | 10.210.73.197 | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+---------------+ +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+--------------+ | id | loadbalancer_id | status | role | lb_network_ip | ha_ip | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+--------------+ | b39472aa-04a0-42b8-8c09-4617ea1a0f33 | 96223d34-6941-4bc5-881a-ddfd83070739 | ALLOCATED | BACKUP | 10.94.64.232 | 10.210.64.32 | | 9909b300-d266-4344-b6fc-edc4af651485 | 96223d34-6941-4bc5-881a-ddfd83070739 | ALLOCATED | MASTER | 10.94.64.151 | 10.210.64.32 | | 9d197234-6411-4069-8be3-a399cc1fbc3a | 96223d34-6941-4bc5-881a-ddfd83070739 | ALLOCATED | MASTER | 10.94.64.212 | 10.210.64.32 | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+--------------+ +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+---------------+ | id | loadbalancer_id | status | role | lb_network_ip | ha_ip | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+---------------+ | 60af8e11-c6ad-45f0-8e07-1bcc4a477444 | f9f859d0-2b31-449b-8723-700bb7f3f3f4 | ALLOCATED | BACKUP | 10.94.64.74 | 10.211.193.63 | | d086f283-b9d8-4b23-a782-e0ace769e893 | f9f859d0-2b31-449b-8723-700bb7f3f3f4 | ALLOCATED | MASTER | 10.94.64.225 | 10.211.193.63 | | 8a90fc7c-eb0a-4635-8ece-7c4704c60f7a | f9f859d0-2b31-449b-8723-700bb7f3f3f4 | ALLOCATED | MASTER | 10.94.64.50 | 10.211.193.63 | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------+--------+---------------+---------------+ taskflow is enabled in our case, backend is redis can you suggest smth to check or maybe some updates were already done?