Huge +1 from me. 

If the team want help, they need to offer some help first. We could also work with kinds of internship programmes like Outreachy.

Cheers,
Lingxian Kong


On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:48 PM Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org> wrote:
Hi everyone,

The "Help most needed" list[1] was created by the Technical Committee to
clearly describe areas of the OpenStack open source project which were
in the most need of urgent help. This was done partly to facilitate
communications with corporate sponsors and engineering managers, and be
able to point them to an official statement of need from "the project".

[1] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/help-most-needed.html

This list encounters two issues. First it's hard to limit entries: a lot
of projects teams, SIGs and other forms of working groups could use
extra help. But more importantly, this list has had a very limited
impact -- new contributors did not exactly magically show up in the
areas we designated as in most need of help.

When we raised that topic (again) at a Board+TC meeting, a suggestion
was made that we should turn the list more into a "job description"
style that would make it more palatable to the corporate world. I fear
that would not really solve the underlying issue (which is that at our
stage of the hype curve, no organization really has spare contributors
to throw at random hard problems).

So I wonder if we should not reframe the list and make it less "this
team needs help" and more "I offer peer-mentoring in this team". A list
of contributor internships offers, rather than a call for corporate help
in the dark. I feel like that would be more of a win-win offer, and more
likely to appeal to students, or OpenStack users trying to contribute back.

Proper 1:1 mentoring takes a lot of time, and I'm not underestimating
that. Only people that are ready to dedicate mentoring time should show
up on this new "list"... which is why it should really list identified
individuals rather than anonymous teams. It should also probably be
one-off offers -- once taken, the offer should probably go off the list.

Thoughts on that? Do you think reframing help-needed as
mentoring-offered could help? Do you have alternate suggestions?

--
Thierry Carrez (ttx)