On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 4:50 AM Dmitry Tantsur <dtantsur@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Hi Dmitry,
We have indeed been using "active introspection" in CERN's deployment to update the introspection data:
- when there was a bug in python-hardware which led to incomplete inventory data (which we only noticed after the nodes were moved into
On 7/4/24 6:04 PM, Arne Wiebalck wrote: production), and
- to complete the inventory data of previously enrolled nodes where the
of data items to collect changed with time (to make sure all nodes have identically structured data in S3).
Active introspection is not part of our regular workflows, but it has
list proven to be
handy when needed. I guess without this project (and/or a stand-alone inspector in general?) the possibility to update the inventory data of active nodes will disappear?
Without this project, you can use something else (which may not exist), but yes, it will disappear without ironic-inspector since this functionality has not been migrated. Which is possible to do, but somebody needs to do the work, and the last time we discussed it, some community members (was it Jay?) where not thrilled about this idea in general.
Dmitry
The unfortunate antipattern operators then get into, sans the functionality, is along the lines of deletion, and re-create and move of their baremetal nodes through the wider lifecycle baremetal nodes to have fresh introspection data, which is really the last thing we *want* them to ever do. The bottom line is if operators feel the functionality is useful, they need to help convey the business case and if possible volunteer a couple hours of time to push the needful change to do it. Some sort of statement in "this saves us $x amount of time per machine which adds up to $y hours a year.
(Thanks for raising this!)
Cheers, Arne
________________________________________ From: Dmitry Tantsur <dtantsur@protonmail.com> Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2024 16:43 To: openstack-discuss Cc: Arne Wiebalck Subject: [ironic] the fate of ironic-hardware-inventory-recorder-image
Hi folks!
The project in question (https://github.com/metal3-io/ironic-hardware-inventory-recorder-image) was created as part of our effort to allow updating introspection data in ironic-inspector from inside of already running ("active" in the ironic terminology) instances. It is a container image that packages ironic-python-agent in a way that limits its activity to finding ironic-inspector and posting data to it.
The initial plans did not happen, ironic-inspector is pending deprecation in favor of ironic's built-in inspection, and the project is unused by anyone in the Metal3 ecosystem. We want to archive and eventually remove it, but we've heard that some members of the ironic community (CERN? CC'ing Arne) are using it.
If you do have an interest in this approach, please reach out to me to organize a take-over of the project.
Dmitry