I would be very sad to see this go, I actually run openSUSE in my home lab, though I am by no means an active user in production. Maybe this is something we can keep in tree but remove the tests for so it’s not consuming gate resources? This would be similar to the recent addition of Gentoo which has very limited, if any, gate testing at this time. If we’re still running into issues or if there are no known maintainers/users in production by B1 within the T cycle I’d be onboard with it being dropped.

 

 

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Kevin Carter

IRC: Cloudnull

 

From: Mohammed Naser
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 10:37 AM
To: OpenStack Discuss
Subject: [openstack-ansible] dropping suse support

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been trying to avoid writing this email for the longest time

ever.  It's really painful to have to reach this state, but I think

we've hit a point where we can no longer maintain support for SUSE

within OpenStack Ansible.

 

Unfortunately, with the recent layoffs, the OSA team has taken a huge

hit in terms of contributors which means that there is far less

contributors within the project.  This means that we have less

resources to go around and it forces us to focus on a more functional,

reliable and well tested set of scenarios.

 

Over the past few cycles, there has been effort to add SUSE support to

OpenStack Ansible, during the time that we had maintainers, it was

great and SUSE issues were being fixed promptly.  In addition, due to

the larger team at the time, we found ourselves having some extra time

where we can help unbreak other gates.  Jesse used to call this a

"labour of love", which I admired at the time and hoped we continue to

do as much as we can of.

 

However, the lack of a committed maintainer for OpenSUSE has resulted

in constantly failing jobs[1][2] (which were moved to non-voting,

wasting CI resources as no one fixed them).  In addition, it's causing

several gate blocks for a few times with no one really finding the

time to clean them up.

 

We are resource constrained at this point and we need the resource to

go towards making the small subset of supported features functional

(i.e. CentOS/Ubuntu).  We struggle with that enough, and there seems

to be no deployers that are running SUSE in real life at the moment

based on bugs submitted.

 

With that, I propose that we drop SUSE support this cycle.  If anyone

would like to volunteer to maintain it, we can review that option, but

that would require a serious commitment as we've had maintainers step

off and it hurts the velocity of the project as no one can merge code

anymore.

 

..Really wish I didn't have to write this email

Mohammed

 

[1]: http://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/builds?job_name=openstack-ansible-functional-opensuse-150

[2]: http://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/builds?job_name=openstack-ansible-functional-opensuse-423