Re: [tc][all] Follow up pain point discussion

---- On Thu, 09 Dec 2021 04:00:05 -0600 Thomas Goirand zigo@debian.org wrote ----

Hi,

I missed this thread and the discussion, though I've added to the etherpad:

Glance

FIX NEEDED - Glance doesn't work well over uwsgi, it's the only

service with this state (appart from Swfit). We would need Glance to fully gate using uwsgi in the CI.

We run glance in uwsgi mode by default since wallaby [1] (GLANCE_STANDALONE=False means uwsgi) and from this patch onwards[2], even import workflow is run in uwsgi by default in CI.

[1] https://github.com/openstack/devstack/blob/6c849e371384e468679d3d030fe494a36... [2] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/742332

-gmann

FIX NEEDED - Glance upload on Ceph is painfully slow. So much that

many operators simply don't use the Ceph backend.

Swift

FIX NEEDED - Swift continues to use Eventlet. Switching to uwsgi

increases performances dramatically. Switching to uwsgi is possible for swift-proxy, swift-container and swift-account, but it completely fails for swift-object. Swift needs to fully switch to uwsgi in the CI, and repair the swift-proxy to swift-object protocol to follow *real* http specifictions (at some point, swift-object drifted away from respecting http protocol, which makes it impossible to run it under uwsgi).

I hope this helps, Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)

On 12/9/21 5:42 AM, Rico Lin wrote:

...

Dear all

First, thank all who join us in the discussion or help on the etherpad [1]

Here are wrap-ups of our first meeting yesterday:

In the meeting, we have quick work through pain points for a couple of projects: Cinder, Ironic, Neutron, QA, Horizon. And put some action or tags(like `FIX NEEDED` or `INFO NEEDED`). As for Nova, there is already have a good quality of replies and actions, gmann will help with discussing tags with rest of Nova team. Horizon team will go through the rest item in team meeting and finish tagging after. Also, TC picks the log level topic (check out log level discussion in [2]) as one of the topics in next TC meeting. So if you're interested, please check out [1] and kindly provide your feedback.

We plan to go through with other projects in our next pain point meeting, which we expect to schedule around mid. of January. Meanwhile, if teams can help with providing replies and tags will be very helpful.

As for possible cross-project pain points: The OSC discussion went very well. The discussion includes OpenStack Client and OpenStackSDK. OSC seems to get more works done than the last time it was proposed as a community goal (back in Train cycle?), so TC has set up a topic in the next TC meeting to discuss the possibility to set this as a community goal (for z or after-z cycles).

RabbitMQ was discussed briefly but didn't have any specific suggestions or actions. So if you have any, please kindly provide your feedback in this ML or [3].

If you would like to suggest other cross-project pain points, kindly suggest in ML or [1] and help TCs to identify them.

Finally, we collect pain points and hope to get things fixed/improved, so if you're interested to help with targeting any of the items in [1], you're most welcome to reach out to project teams or at least provide your feedback in [1].

[1] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/pain-point-elimination https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/pain-point-elimination [2] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/pain-point-elimination#L261 https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/pain-point-elimination#L261 [3] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/pain-point-elimination#L21 https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/pain-point-elimination#L21

*Rico Lin* OIF Individual Board of directors, OpenStack TC, Multi-arch SIG chair, Heat PTL, Senior Software Engineer@EasyStack

On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 4:39 PM Rico Lin <ricolin@ricolky.com mailto:ricolin@ricolky.com> wrote:

Dear all

For pain point discussion,
Let's schedule the video meeting for *Dec. 8th, 15:00 UTC time*
Location: https://meet.google.com/xsx-inbw-mos
<https://meet.google.com/xsx-inbw-mos>

*Rico Lin*
OIF Individual Board of directors, OpenStack TC, Multi-arch SIG
chair, Heat PTL, 
Senior Software Engineer@EasyStack


On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 5:37 PM Rico Lin <ricolin@ricolky.com
<mailto:ricolin@ricolky.com>> wrote:

    Dear all

    The pain point collection etherpad [1] seems to get good
    attention from teams.
    We plan to host a one-hour video meeting to keep the discussion
    going.
    Please fill in the doodle to select your preferred time if you
    can join us:
    https://doodle.com/poll/kur2mfywceerqcvh?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link
    <https://doodle.com/poll/kur2mfywceerqcvh?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link>
    The discussion will be hosted in video format.

    Here are some items (but not limited to) I expect we will
    discuss and hopefully put some actions/efforts on.

      * General Pain point: RabbitMQ
      * General Pain point: OpenStackClient support
      * General project pain point discussion: How to encourage
        teams to work/reply on pain points.

    Meanwhile, we encourage all to check the etherpad and provide
    your feedback.
    Also if teams can help to answer questions/concerns on etherpad
    (like Nova team does) will be greatly appreciated.

    [1] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/pain-point-elimination
    <https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/pain-point-elimination>

    *Rico Lin*