Adam Spiers wrote:
Matt Riedemann <mriedemos@gmail.com> wrote:
They did what they were asked and things have stalled. At this point, I think it comes down to priorities, and in order to prioritize something big like this that requires coordinated work across several projects, we are going to need more stakeholders coming forward and saying they also want this feature so the vendors who are paying the people to work upstream can be given specific time to give this the attention it needs. And that ties back into getting the top 1 or 2 wishlist items from each SIG and trying to sort those based on what is the highest rated most common need for the greatest number of people - sort of like what we see happening with the resource delete API community wide goal proposal.
Agreed. The Security SIG sounds like a natural home for it. I'm going to wildly speculate that maybe part of the reason it stalled is that it was perceived as coming from a couple of individuals rather than a SIG. If the initiative had been backed by the Security SIG as something worth prioritising, then maybe it could have received wider attention.
Yes... As much as we'd like to think the problem here is purely technical, getting it done in an openly-collaborating community means it's also a social problem. It will compete with a LOT of other things to get priority. In order to get it done, you need to make it well-known, and gather a bit of mindshare, so that it gets on people's radar with some amount of priority. That means the effort needs to be clearly identified (give it a distinctive name), and a lot of communication needs to be done around it (presentations, forum/PTG sessions, ML status reports...). Working under a SIG umbrella definitely facilitates that "promotion" side of the work, since SIGs already have some visibility built in. The "top 2 wishlist per SIG" idea is just one way to encourage focusing this promotion effort on a limited number of things at the same time, because there is just no way you can promote 10 different things and expect them all to stick. -- Thierry Carrez (ttx)