It was a pleasure to meet you all, thanks Takashi for driving the meeting and putting together an action plan!

Best regards
Tobias

On 18 Jun 2023, at 18:23, Takashi Kajinami <tkajinam@redhat.com> wrote:

Hello,

Thank you all for joining our PTG session !
It was really nice to meet some of the team members in person.

The etherpad for the discussion can be found in the link below, but
I'll share a summary of our discussions in this email. In case you have
any questions/concerns then feel free to let me know.

  • Status update
    • We share the status of each person.
    • Unfortunately all of the members attending the discussion have limited resources especially for development
    • Agreement: we focus on priorities and de-prioritize items which does not cause immediate problems/breackages
    • Agreement: we ensure we finish the prioritized items in a specific release to keep our maintenance simple

  • Puppet 8 support
    • We added unit/lint tests with Puppet 8 for early testing, but adding integration tests is currently blocked
      by some ruby dependencies not yet available for Ruby 3.1 which is required by Puppet 8.
    • All of the operating system versions do not provide Ruby 3.1 now
    • Puppet 7 EOL is not yet declared
    • Agreement: We leave this as non-priority for now and re-work on it once Ruby 3.1 is globally available

  • Adaptation to puppetlab-stdlib 9.0.0
    • Some deprecated items were removed. We adapted our modules but are still waiting for update
      in the dependent modules
    • validate_legacy was deprecated and causes large warning now
    • Functions from stdlib should be now namespace-d to avoid warnings after bump is done
    • Agreement: We prioritize replacing validate_legacy by typed parameters
    • Agreement: We pin stdlib to an older version for now but attempt to bump it early

  • Module modernizations
    • Typed parameters
      • Replacing validate_legacy needs to be prioritized now to adapt to puppetlab-stdlib 9.0.0
      • Implementing type validations for openstack config options require further discussions.
        Handling of os_service_defualt would be the main topic we have to sort
      • We prefer consistent implementations for all openstack service modules, while we can attempt
        some changes early in a few "independent" modules such as extras, vswitch, qdr
      • Agreement: We de-prioritize implementing validations for config options
      • Agreement: We ensure implementations is distributed to all modules consistently in a single release

    • Hieradata
      • This is "modern" design pattern, and it's ideal to replace legacy params class by it
      • However we don't have urgent requirement to complete this work
      • We have to create the common structure for hieradata files maintained in each repositories
      • Some concerns have been raised mainly how we can pick up some values once this change is made
      • Agreement: We de-prioritize this work for now
      • Agreement: We can start with the flat files (pattern 1 in https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/puppet-hieradata-structure )
      • Agreement: tkajinam will submit a few examples and we review how this impact the existing usage
      • Agreement: Similarly to typed parameters, we should coordinate this work to make the change consistently

    • Making distro/version specific logic selectable by parameters
      • This work is tightly related to the hieradata work
      • Agreement: We basically leave this work until the above hieradata work is completed, and de-prioritize this.

  • Branch retirements
    • We have multiple branches open now and aim to reduce number of branches
    • Red Hat is interested in keeping train open until 2023Q3 (tentative) and wallaby for some times for donwstream
    • Others do not have requirement to maintain old releases in EM status
    • Agreement: We aim to retire train/ussuri/branch after 2023Q3. Retiring further branches is subject to future discussions

Thank you,
Takashi Kajinami