Am Montag, dem 08.04.2024 um 14:54 +0100 schrieb smooney@redhat.com:
the tone that Sven has been taking in this thread has been often bordering on insuting if not mearly condesending.
@sven for people that care deeply about the quality of software we produce and has advocated for using tools like mypi, auto formnating, code modreisers liek pyupgrade ectra the way you are approching this is hurting the efforts to maintain and moderise our codebase more then its helping.
we have been having dissusion like this for years and we are making incremenal impormbet but any kind of browbeating with stats just reads as trying to bully people with data instead of takeing the time to have a calm, reasoned converstation that empathises with the others invovled.
Hi Sean, I'm sorry that I apparently insulted you, that was really not what I wanted to do. I certainly have learned a lot about openstack from your insights posted to this mailing list in the past. I know there have been previous discussions about these topics and that there are gradual improvements. I also think only incremental improvements are possible in a large project like openstack. It was not my intend to "bully" anyone with data. But it was raised the question between the lines if there is any advantage to static typing at all. I just replied with a study that shows that at least under some circumstances, yes there are advantages. I understand and think that it's good that people like me who demand change need of course put in the work and show that change is beneficial at all. I just try to do that. Sorry again if my tone went over the line, arguments around coding style and which tools to use somehow often can become very heated. Kind regards -- Sven Kieske Senior Cloud Engineer Mail: kieske@osism.tech Web: https://osism.tech OSISM GmbH Teckstraße 62 / 70190 Stuttgart / Deutschland Geschäftsführer: Christian Berendt Unternehmenssitz: Stuttgart Amtsgericht: Stuttgart, HRB 756139