On Aug 21, 2025 18:12, Jay Faulkner <jay@gr-oss.io> wrote:

> You could store patches in a repo hosted elsewhere

Please name that somewhere. Are you suggesting I maintain my own deployment of Gerrit?

or even have a

> forked-version of that branch which can be used for a Debian upstream

Well, I use git for packaging, so in some ways, I am doing this already. Though I don't feel like the Debian gitlab instance is a relevant place for this.

> I-personally am not motivated to

> spend that limited time giving users an additional excuse to delay their

> upgrade.

I don't think keeping branches open for *downstream* to work on is giving any message to anyone.

Also, the fact users cannot invest enough of their time upgrading is still something unadressed in OpenStack. If we're lacking workforce, there are ways to fix it, like having a release per year instead of 2, so we'd have 3 years of support instead of just one and a half. I know this has been discussed ad-nauseam, but it doesn't remove the concern. And since upstream OpenStack project still hasn't addressed it, what I am asking for is an acceptable middle ground.

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand

P.S: you do realise Red Hat still maintains Train, right ?