I'm honestly a bit sad we still plan the virtual PTG event for a single week. This will be a very busy week with weird timeslots for most of us so our energy will mostly disappear after 2 days.
Having slots around 2 weeks was helping the contributors to have enough time to rest between windows (compared to only a couple of hours which is meaningless in terms of real and factual rest) and this was basically discussed without strong objections during the first of the three open discussions we had.

Is there any reasoning in terms of logistics or whatever else in sticking with such constrained and busy time window ? For large teams, could we maybe consider to run over those slots by organizing other meetings at other points in time (say, the week after) and if so, could the Foundation leave the infrastructure open for this ?

Thanks,
-Sylvain

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:05 PM Kendall Nelson <kennelson11@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Mark :) 

Part of it is breaks like Jeremy mentioned, but mostly its to give people a break to deal with any distractions (work, family, sleep, etc) and get other people tz wise involved. Each of the windows of times falls on a 'good' crossover time for two thirds of the world. Much further one direction or another and it gets really late or really early for one of those groups of people. 

On all three of the community brainstorming meetings there were ongoing concerns about anyone's ability to meet and stay engaged in a virtual meeting for more than 4 hours at a time as well. By capping the windows and forcing time in between them we are hoping to keep engagement high and reduce burnout and distraction.   

-Kendall (diablo_rojo)

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:29 AM Mark Goddard <mark@stackhpc.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 18:03, Kendall Nelson <kennelson11@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Greetings!
>
> I am sure you have all been anxiously awaiting more details on how we are going to virtualize the PTG :) After the community meetings we had last week/the week before to understand the key challenges and ideate on solutions, we have a plan!
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> The virtual event will be held from Monday June 1 to Friday June 5. We set up available times in 3 different time windows where each window is a cross over time between at least 2 regions (Window A - Americas/Europe, Window B - Europe/APAC, and Window C - APAC/Americas).

Hi, just wondering what is the reasoning for having these windows,
with gaps between them? The last time we doodled for kolla slots we
ended up with 14:00 - 18:00 UTC, so I had proposed this to the team as
a starting point but Pierre pointed out that it falls outside of the
window.

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> Here is an ethercalc[1]. We ask that the PTL/SIG Chair/Team lead sign up for time to have their discussions in with 4 rules/guidelines.
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> 1. Cross project discussions (i.e. SIGs and horizonal teams), try to schedule yourselves towards the start of the week so that any discussions that might shape those of vertical teams might happen first.
> 2. Vertical teams (ex. Nova, Cyborg, Manila) should wait till April 6th at 7:00 UTC to start signing up for slots to help prioritize the scheduling of cross project conversations.
> 3. No team (SIG, horizonal project, vertical project, etc) can sign up for more than 4 hours per UTC day to help keep participants actively engaged.
> 4. No team (SIG, horizonal project, vertical project, etc) can sign up for more than 16 hours across all time slots to avoid burning out our contributors and to enable participation in multiple teams discussions.
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> Once every team has had a chance to sign up (lets say two weeks from today April 28th at 7:00 UTC) if signing up for more time makes sense, it will be possible.
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> We want to encourage ANY team to sign up, even those that had originally said no to the initial outreach when the PTG was supposed to be in person. The more the merrier!
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> Once you have signed up for time slots, please also fill out this survey[2] with your team information. We need this additional information to help shape other decisions down the road and coordinate other details closer to the event.
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> If you have any issues with signing up your team, due to conflict or otherwise, please let me know! While we are trying to empower you to make your own decisions as to when you meet and for how long (after all, you know your needs and teams timezones better than we do), we are here to help!
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> Continue to check back for updates at openstack.org/ptg.
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> -the Kendalls (diablo_rojo & wendallkaters)
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> [1] https://ethercalc.openstack.org/126u8ek25noy
> [2] https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/june2020_virtual_ptg_survey
>